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Looks pretty clear to me. The same way as Paris (Honfleur), London (Portsmouth) and many other ports.

And just to clarify - the same credits will be applied to the new booking.

This was exactly my point. SS and SB are level up compared to O, this is why I mentioned that paying a similar price for PH on R ships is not a good value to me because I can sail on SS or SB for that price. We sailed on SS and Crystal and still like O. Currently booked on 2 O, 2 SS and 1 SB. Choice is good.

R ships are 700 passengers, SS and SB are 450-600 passengers. Yes, PH are fine size, more than enough for me. And yes, the ships are fine. But you cannot really argue that SS and SB are more luxury than O, and for the same price, it's an obvious choice to me. I absolutely love O, but SS and SB are a step up.

I believe I clarified what I meant, would you disagree that PH on R ship gets you a smaller cabin, an older ship, less inclusions and less luxury ship?

According to one of the most connected and knowledgeable TAs, the itineraries will be released end of April.

Last year they came out mid April and booking started on May 5th if this is any indication. We purchased future cruise credit certificate. I'm pretty sure you can transfer it to TA within 30 days of the actual booking, otherwise it means that if you book 30 days after purchasing it, you cannot use a TA - which doesn't make sense to me.

There are huge gaps between how guests are treated by the head offices and how they are treated on board. This is true for all cruise lines - just read some posts on SS board. If every time I was mistreated by the head office I said "NEVER AGAIN", I would be running out of cruise lines very quickly. Just accept it that this is the current situation and enjoy your cruise.

Cancelled ports are part of the game. Happens to all lines. People who cannot accept it shouldn't travel. The only line who provide us compensation for cancelled ports was SS, as a gesture of goodwill. They owe you nothing.

PH on O small ships is around 260 sqft excluding veranda. You get a butler and some extra perks. But alcoholic drinks are still not included, and gratuities are not included as well. Entry level cabins on SS and SB are around 290-305 sqft. SS includes butler in every cabin, and they are both all inclusive (SS includes even excursions). Also SS and SB are considered level up compared to O (ultra luxury vs. premium/"light luxury"). So on O small ship PH you are paying a similar price to entry level on SS or SB and get a smaller cabin, an older ship, less inclusions etc. So yes, for the same or similar price, I would consider SS or SB a better value. P.S. In fact, PH are priced similarly on R ships and O ships. To me, this is absurd. PH on the O ships are 350 sqft vs. 260 sqft on R ships, and the ships are half age. I would consider PH on O ships very good value. On R ships, not so much.

I agree. Generally speaking, cabin size is not important to us as we spend very little time in the cabin. But cabins and especially showers on the R class are slightly below our comfort zone. They are livable, but not much more. The problem is that PH on the R ships does not offer good value for money in my opinion. They are priced almost like entry level cabins on SS and SB, sometimes even more expensive.

Yes, I did mention more dining options, and agree, this is significant.. Bloody autocorrect.. 😁

O class are more than double in terms of tonnage but only 80% more passengers, so they have a better passenger to space ratio and feel more spacious. O class have a real theatre, more dining options and more public areas. Also standard cabins on R ships are pretty small, around 170 sqft, even conceive level, while on O class it’s 240 sqft starting from OV category. O class are also half age, although all of them are very well maintained. Overall we would sail on both but prefer the O class. To us R class feel a bit too cozy..

Seeing all the mess with luggage, we decided to try a risky move and travel with carry on only on our next cruise in May. Many of our friends do it, so it’s possible. But it means being very selective with what we pack, hence my question about jeans..

My apologies, but can someone please explain the difference between smart jeans that are appropriate for evening wear and casual jeans that are not? I understand that one difference is "no holes", what else? Maybe some photos/examples? Just trying to see if any of my jeans would be appropriate.

We were on the same cruise lol.. I agree, but my comment was about full capacity numbers. This is what every line advertises.

They never advertised 2 staff to 1 guest. No line has more staff than guests. Riviera has 1,240 guests and 800 crew. That's 1.56 guests per 1 staff member.

Thanks as always! I just realized that we actually were booked on this cruise lol.. had to cancel for family reasons, but we will be on the Riviera on May 22 from Barcelona.

@ORVthanks so much for posting! The ship looks great, maybe you can also share some first impressions about food and service? A lot of complaints lately, would be really interested to hear your opinion.

Yes I am aware of both lol.. but I realized the typo much later.

This was obviously a typo (autocorrection by the ipad) and CC does not allow to edit posts. If you are still wondering, the intention was to soap.. Under no circumstances, do NOT drop your soap in the Sirena shower. It will be lost forever. 😀

They forgot the afternoon tea..

Some would call it first world problems, and say that we should be really grateful that we are able to cruise on those ships. But I don't think that expecting your water to be re filled is unreasonable. btw, we had a similar issue on our last cruise on SS in December (and SS is considered a true luxury line). They always try to blame Covid, but I'm getting tired of this excuse. Re filling water in a timely matter has nothing to do with Covid..

maybe they have different prices inside each category depending on location? In any case, there is current no option to book online, this is why “call for quote”.

As far as I can see, "Call For Quote" and "Join The Waitlist" are the only two options available on all sailings and all categories. And I did not see a single sailing that had all categories waitlisted.