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4 minutes ago, Blizzard54 said:

November 3rd would be VERY late in the season for Astoria.

The booking was made with the port authority just 9 days ago on the 3rd of November. The call of the ship is in 2022 following the Alaska season. 

Bookings made at the Balearic Island ports of Palma and Ibiza seem to indicate that they are shifting things around a bit at the last minute.  Riviera ports have not been updated yet. 

Allure of the Seas should be the summer season 2022 ship based on the 7 night sailings out of Barcelona with the same weekly Sunday departures. 

Bookings for Vision of the Seas and Jewel of the Seas do not give a clear vision of the sailings. They do not appear to be doing regular weekly or 12 night sailings.  Jewel appears to be heading in and out of the MED with 2 cruises calling on Funchal Madeira.  Ports of Nice, Allicante, Valencia and Tarragonia are booked. These will become more clear when Riviera ports updates their bookings. 

Anthem has increased now to 4 sailings from Southampton entering the MED. It seems that INDY will also return to Southampton based on current bookings.  

Rhapsody has calls on her way to Italy. 

49 minutes ago, Ashland said:

So...a bit confused...your thoughts on when the west coast may have a ship sailing to anywhere other than a coastal cruise?

I just see the bookings at Astoria, Oregon and Monterey CA at the moment.  They have had Serenade booked for a few months at Astoria and Grand Cayman. They just booked Radiance on the 3rd of November for both 2021 and 2022 at Astoria. 

Navigator was just booked this week at Monterey for the 2nd of August 2022.  

I have no idea when they would finalize or release those sailings. 

Serenade of the Seas had been booked for months to depart Alaska following the 2022 season with a Pacific Coastal / Panama Canal sailing that also is booked to stop at Grand Cayman on October15th, 2022 after transiting the Canal. 

Radiance of the Seas is booked to also sail on a Pacific Coastal now in 2022 following the Alaska sailing. This would indicate most likely another Panama Canal sailing.  They released the same sailing for the 2021 re-deployment.  Radiance will most likely return to Miami for winter 2022-23. 

Navigator (possible Voyager or other placeholder) has been booked for August 2nd 2022 at Monterey California. I had previously posted the frequent 2023 Navigator bookings at Monterey. 

8 hours ago, geoff2802 said:

Thx for the update. 

Freedom's first cruise from Miami departs Oct 31, 2021.  I can't see them leaving a gap between Navigator's departure and Freedom's arrival, so Navigator isn't freed up until then.   So the 2021 summer West coast deployment doesn't seem to be Navigator.  

Have I overlooked something? 

Thanks for pointing that out. I got confused by the 2020-21 deployment flyers. They have the updated Navigator and Freedom itineraries further down and not up top under Caribbean. 

https://loyaltoyoualways.com/deployment/

Well, they are still holding the Voyager Hawaii call on the 15th of June as well.  Just confused as they deployed Voyager to Singapore after these changes were made.  It would make more sense if it was actually Voyager making the move. 

I am just glad that they are going to the west coast no matter which ship it is. 

50 minutes ago, Crism said:

 

Any hints on a Navigator trip through the new locks?

No port bookings indicate that yet that I can find. Navigator has been in port in Miami for several days now and no way to know what that is about as well. 

1 hour ago, Saab4444 said:

Correct but you said they replaced Jewel with Radiance because Jewel has been moved to the Baltic.

Please do not be selective. I said when they moved to Baltic and Northeast!  Jewel port bookings indicated a transatlantic from Barcelona to Miami.  Key West had been showing sailings arriving from Miami with Jewel for 2 years now and they may still do that, I have no way to know.  Interestingly, Key West appears to have removed the cruise schedule from the website at the moment, I think. The scheduled stops at Key West with Jewel do seem to be replaced by Radiance. 

Serenade of the Seas had been booked for months at Grand Cayman for October 15, 2022. She was just booked at Astoria, Oregon on September 28th, 2022,  when it appears she does a coastal sailing and then Panama Canal Sailing taking her back to the Caribbean for winter of 2022-23. 

7 minutes ago, Saab4444 said:

Jewel has always been scheduled for North Europe in summer 2021, they just moved her ftom Amsterdam to Copenhagen/Stockholm.

Jewel had a combined Med and Baltic season prior to being the only ship in the Baltic and even taking on the Adventure sailing. Jewel was booked previously at Barcelona for the Spring and Fall. 

Jewel is now also booked for the 2022 season as well for the Baltic sailings. 

With both Astoria, OR and Catalina, CA having updated their cruise schedules, the Astoria call for "Voyager of the Seas" on June 26th is still on the books.  "Voyager of the Seas" starts to appear at Catalina, CA from July 3rd and continues with 4 port booking through the end of September.  

This is a similar pattern to Carnival's 3 and 4 night sailings out of Los Angeles. I have not been able to get into Ensanada bookings yet. 

I wonder if this could already be Navigator if she has been freed up now with the move of Freedom. 

They had planned on Jewel for these sailings from the start and seem to have moved to Radiance when they moved Jewel to the Baltic and Northeast . These seem to have been booked in port originally as Jewel when they moved her from Dubai. 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/Deployment/2021_2022/RD_Caribbean.pdf

This explains finally the disappearance of Freedom from the radar as none of her ports post schedules any longer. 

Here is the Freedom deployment flyer : 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/Deployment/2021_2022/19071003_FR_Caribbean.pdf

These changes have been in the works for months. I had first noticed the Grand Cayman bookings for Explorer back in May of 2020. I am not sure if the deployment announcements have been posted yet. The San Juan move happened back in July with port bookings. 

The Explorer deployment flyer: 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/Deployment/2021_2022/EX.pdf
 

1 hour ago, geoff2802 said:

It’s hard to imagine Sydney having only one ship.  

Serenade could also sail from Sydney.  

Serenade is still booked at Grand Cayman on Oct. 15. 2022 indicating they were not planning on her returning to Australia for the 22/23 season. This call has been booked since May of 2020 and so far still stands. 

Pure Speculation not based on port bookings, but, being these sailing are in 2023 and the fact that Adventure is booked only one season at Barcelona, Navigator could do the short cruise season at Barcelona in 2022 and then if RCG get incentives yet again to return to Dubai, she could do a winter Dubai season and then do a Japan or Hawaii crossing to SFO, LAX or SAN. They could even throw in a short Holy Land season prior to the Suez Canal sailing. 

This would even give shore power conversion opportunities at Cadiz or Singapore or other shipyard prior to arrival on the west coast. 

I keep seeing quotes that RCI have 14 ships with 'shore power' but I can not find a list of them anywhere. 

6 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I was on the webinar where this was discussed and it seemed to me like it was summer of 2022 not 2021 that it would be for. Announcement to coincide with 2022 itinerary release

Well, 2023 has actual bookings now. Interesting they chose to move Navigator, at least as the place holder. 

Navigator of the Seas has just been booked for summer of 2023 at Monterey, California on 7 and 14 night intervals on Tuesdays. This appears to be in addition to the discussed possible 2021 Mexican sailings that are being considered. 

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23684-royal-caribbean-evaluating-west-coast-cruise-program.html

Adventure has been booked at Funchal, Madeira on September 23rd, 2021.  The sailing is from Barcelona via Cartegena, Spain and returns via Lisbon, Portugal. It appears they are planning some longer sailings following the deployed 4 and 5 night Barcelona Sailings. 

The Jewel re-deployment sailings from Boston have been released. While the CPH - BOS Transatlantic is featured on the website it has not been added to the deployment schedule. 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/deployment/2021_2022/JW_2021_Canada.pdf

Odyssey of the Seas has been booked at Villefranche for 3 dates in April 2021 prior to the current first sailing of April 30th from Civitavecchia . It is unclear if these would be from Rome or sailing out of Barcelona. 

Odyssey of the Seas has been booked at Villefranche for 3 dates in April 2021 prior to the current first sailing of April 30th from Civitavecchia . It is unclear if these would be from Rome or sailing out of Barcelona. 

The Tampa re-deployment for the summer and winter 2021 Brilliance sailings have been posted. 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/deployment/2021_2022/BR_2021_Carib.pdf

The Vision summer / winter PE sailings for 2021 / 22 have been posted. There is an error with the 2022 sailings showing Jan - April of 2021, but they should be 2022. 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/deployment/2021_2022/VI_2021_Carib.pdf

The schedule for the re-deployed Adventure of the Seas 4 and 5 night summer 2021 sailings out of Barcelona have been posted. 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/deployment/2021_2022/AD_2021_Europe.pdf

4 night  /  Barcelona, Spain • Provence (Marseille), France • Palma De Mallorca, Spain • Ibiza, Spain • Barcelona, Spain

5 night  /  Barcelona, Spain • Nice (Villefranche), France • Florence/Pisa (La Spezia), Italy • Rome (Civitavecchia), Italy • Ajaccio, Corsica, France • Barcelona, Spain

The Jewel re-deployment to Copenhagen and Stockholm appears to result in a northern route Transatlantic sailing that has not yet been announced. As Jewel will be replacing Brilliance in Boston on September 12th 2021, a 12 night Copenhagen to Iceland to Boston Transatlantic should be announced soon. 

I had posted a few weeks ago on the 2022 thread that Jewel appeared to be the Copenhagen and Stockholm ship as well in 2022. 

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/Deployment/2021_2022/JW_2021_Europe.pdf

http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/deployment/2021_2022/JW_2021_Canada.pdf