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  1. While Allure is allowed to enter the port of Cadiz from 4 PM Thursday, it shows arrival now on Friday at noon. 

     

    The Carnival Breeze is entering the port now to rescue the 400 crew members that have not been allowed to leave the Carnival Victory for the 2 months she has been in dry dock at Cadiz. The Breeze will be in the cruise port in the center of Cadiz and 25 buses will bring the crew from Victory to the port and 6 Spanish crew from the Breeze will be repatriated. 

     

    Allures 300 crew have been approved for entry and it appears all hurdles have been overcome. Local media keep stressing they are not doing the cabins on the ship, but state nothing about public areas and only state that the dry dock will focus on Navigational repairs.

     

    The 800 Navantia workers assigned to the project seems a bit high for only the Navigational work though and it will be interesting to see just what ends up being included. 

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  2. The European Union recommendations for cruises to be allowed to resume include having much larger more advanced medical facilities onboard with trained medical staff to deal with infectious diseases along with ventilators, a certain number of quarantine cabins for both passengers and crew per 1000 onboard and an agreement in advance of opening a cruise season with each port that they will be able to provide medical services along with repatriation of crew and passengers as needed. 

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  3. 5 hours ago, Biker19 said:

    Given its current speed and typical transit times, I'd say arrival should be by Saturday. I assume the staff due to fly from Explorer must be almost done - she's in Bridgetown again today. Looks like X Reflection is also on the way to Barbados - BGI will be a busy place over the next couple of weeks.

    Only one Wamos 747 arriving today at BGI Barbados. I think they said every 3 days for flights. I never noticed the 2 flights lift from MIAmi back to Madrid, so they may still be on ground. 

     

    They had one Wamos flight heading for Bagram Air Base last night, but that must have been for US military. 

     

    Enchantment is a day ahead of Freedom on way to Barbados. 

     

    Liberty was in Miami last night and Symphony today. 

  4. 42 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

    I think it must be a charter???

    It is odd, the flight number PR5 112 is normally used for their flight to LAX. This one is over Texas now arriving at 16:42 at MIA. 

     

    Wamos flight PLM 370 just left MADrid and will arrive at MIAmi at 22:35 tonight for a charter flight out. 

     

    Qatar, Ethiad and Gulf Air have all been flying with routes to Manila,  I noticed a Wamos flight to Doha yesterday and their are 2 Qatar flight from Manila arriving back at DOHA now that may be bringing crew out from Manila.  

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  5. 3 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said:

    Just listened from a senior officer from a Carnival ship in Barcelona. The received permission to send US citizens home on a commercial flight. problem. No commercial flights to the US. So far no charter air flights available either. The ship is anchored out. However they are able to get rid of the trash and get food and water for the ship. They are hoping that the US government will let them sail to a US port so the US citizens can get home. All crew members.

     

    There were 2 commercial flights from Madrid to the USA today with American to Dallas and Iberia to Miami. I do not know the situation with Barcelona direct. There are limited flights with KLM to Amsterdam and Lufthansa to Frankfurt from Barcelona. 

     

    Gibraltar has started allowing cruise ships for technical calls for provisions, fuel and trash removal. 

     

    The Norwegian Breakaway is in Barcelona now though and the Carnival Breeze will come into Cadiz to pick up crew from a ship they have at the shipyard. The Carnival Magic was at Gibraltar 2 days ago and is heading toward Dubrovnik at the moment.  

  6. 4 hours ago, Biker19 said:

    Jewel and Pullmantur Sovereign are together at the dock in Gibraltar - maybe RCI is helping their crew too?

     

    Transfer of crew and movement to a charter flight for some crew.  One Royal Caribbean owned Wamos Airbus 330 moving toward unknown destination in Asia for a repatriation flight now. Unsure if it is for RCL. 

     

    It looks like Celebrity Infinity had to call on Ponta Delgada for most likely a medical stop and appears to meet the new Celebrity Apex at St Nazaire after Gibraltar on Wednesday. 

     

     

    Submitted by DVTSM on Mon, 18/05/2020 - 09:05

    Technical Calls – Cruise Liners ‘Jewel of the Seas’ and ‘Sovereign’

    The Cruise Liners ‘Jewel of the Seas’ and ‘Sovereign’ are planning to carry out technical calls at Gibraltar early in the morning of the 18th May 2020.
    In line with HM Government of Gibraltar’s decision to suspend cruise liner visits to Gibraltar during the current COVID crisis, it must be pointed out that these are not cruise calls, the vessels do not have any passengers on board, and they will be berthing exclusively to take on bunkers, stores, discharge garbage, and crew disembarkation for transfer directly to the airport to board charter flights that have been pre-arranged by the ship’s company. No attendance on board the vessels from shore based staff will be permitted during their short stay in Gibraltar.
    Both vessels will be berthed by 0500hrs on Monday 18th May in order to carry out the transfer of crew directly to the airport. Vessels will depart the berth soon after the flights have departed Gibraltar.

  7. 2 hours ago, Biker19 said:

    Just realized that the IN ship code is for X Infinity not Indy - she's about a week ahead of Anthem. I assume NE is for Empress and she not scheduled to leave for her TA till Tuesday, while Freedom is supposed to leave today.

     

    Some of those charter flight numbers from Bridgetown seem to indicate more than one plane (like 561 staff on 6/13).

     

    Wamos has been using their 747-400s for these flights.   One of them does have 12 first class on upper deck and a whole 517 seats in economy. They own 5 747s and 7 airbus 330s. They had four repatriation flights in the air the other day, but I think only 2 747s were for Royal Caribbean. 

     

    NE is from the original Nordic Empress days from the 90s. At least she was never the "Future Seas" as first intended for Admiral Cruise Line. 

  8. 4 minutes ago, Biker19 said:

    Looks like in addition to Anthem, Indy will also sail all the way to India - it also shows Ovation sailing to India to drop off crew starting today but she's still in Manila Bay I think some of those details have changed since that was drafted. 

     

    Some of the ships were Celebrity vessels. 

     

    It really shows the logistics involved and why changes must be necessary. It was interesting to see the crew numbers. I did not realize they had added so many crew from African nations. It was interesting their were so few Finnish and Scandinavians remaining. 

  9. RCL memo leaked. Shows the May 7th memo to crew in detail plan, detailing by Nationality, transport type, ship of origin, ship being used for repatriation and specific numbers of each crew nationality. 

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-leaked-memo-from-royal-caribbean-breaks-down-the-cruise-lines-ongoing-push-to-send-over-24000-of-stranded-crew-members-home/ar-BB145GRq

     

    pdf file in article. 

  10. 2 hours ago, Biker19 said:

    She seems to be hanging out in the bay of Cadiz.

     

    The ship will at the earliest be allowed in to the shipyard on Thursday the 21st of May. 

     

    It is amazing the amount of detail the local Cadiz media are able to uncover about every delay. It is almost comical to read that the Spanish government first restricted the arrival of Allure to have only 40 Officers and crew onboard upon entry to the shipyard. 

     

    Interesting insights are given to the involvement of BC Agency that works on RCI's behalf in arranging all port movements. 

     

    They state there is still a hold up with 300 international workers that will fly in for the project, but that the project will involve around 800 local workers from the Navantia shipyard. 

     

    https://www.diariodecadiz.es/noticias-provincia-cadiz/Desescalada-Cadiz-Allure-astillero-tramites-burocraticos-navantia_0_1464753760.html

     

    http://www.bcagency.net/en/clientes-ingles/

     

     

  11. 18 minutes ago, Jack McGowan said:

    Interesting that Freedoms booking in Southampton for the end of the month has now been removed, I don’t know wether they just aren’t sure when she will arrive yet or she isn’t coming anymore but it seems odd that she has just arrived at CocoCay for transfers 

    Freedom seems to be a couple days behind the original schedule.  I am seeing movements at Southampton only through the 20th of May now. Do you see beyond that somewhere? 

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