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I think it's called entitlement.

I think all cruise lines are suffering from post covid issues, especially crew staffing and supply chain issues. While the reports are somewhat disturbing, we need to give O and other lines a chance to come back. Comparing food/crew experiences pre-covid to post covid is a bit of and apples and oranges.

Thanks. We are aware of the ArriveCan requirement for flying into Toronto. While we agree that we shouldn't need a second one for boarding as you pointed out, our concern is that Viking info line says we need one and 3 out of 4 folks on the ArriveCan folks on their help line also say we do. But if the official folks are confused, what do we do, if the boarding folks say we do need it? Regardless...yes! Sail away!!!

I think it left Vancouver and visited only Us ports afterward, not returning to Canada, but the post was not entirely clear.

Yes. 2 full days prior to boarding (assuming the flights go as planned), then 1 full day before departure (i.e. an overnight). We've been making a list of museums and other places to see. Do you have any recommendations? Our joint email is maxwell dot lutz at gmail dot com, if you have suggestions and don't want to take this thread further off topic.

Yes, I agree there is no reason to not fill it out. But I did a mock form, and it asked for embarkation port (Toronto), then it asked for the first port of arrival in Canada. Would that be Toronto, or Saguenay, or...? On one the Alaska cruises leaving from Vancouver, a pax filled it out guessing and got a call or email from the Canadian Immigration Folks in the middle of the cruise requiring him to be present for a test as he was in violation. It took some time to straighten it out. That's what I want to avoid.

Thanks Lyn. That was my reading. But the worry is how the ship's embarkation folks read it. Hate to be denied embarkation because someone at the dock thinks it's required. (PS. Is it Lyn or Lynn? My memory fails me.)

This has been a question on our upcoming Viking Expedition cruise. We board in Canada, then leave Canada, with port calls only in Canada before sailing to our final destination, New York. So far, we have had Viking say that, if already in Canada, you need an ArriveCan to board the ship and then that you do not. The ArriveCan telephone hotline operators say the same thing in different calls: you do and you don't. The ArriveCan info site say you don't need one if you depart from Canada and don't leave Canadian waters or you are leaving Canada. Have folks on Oceania's Alaskan Cruise, departing from Vancouver had any words of wisdom to contribute?

1. Depends on the brand and model of your phone. 2. No, as long you are sending/receiving calls/texts back/from the US. International calls placed over WiFi calling are charged at Verizon's standard international rates.