Oceangoer2

or you failed to be clear. The OP seems happy with either demographic, but perhaps not a lot of children. These posts take on a life of their own. Carnival IS a good option for the younger patrons...and Celebrity might not be a good fit...yes you're right....👍

or you failed to be clear. The OP seems happy with either demographic, but perhaps not a lot of children. These posts take on a life of their own. Carnival IS a good option for the younger patrons...and Celebrity might not be a good fit...yes you're right....👍

or you failed to be clear. The OP seems happy with either demographic, but perhaps not a lot of children. These posts take on a life of their own. Carnival IS a good option for the younger patrons...and Celebrity might not be a good fit...yes you're right....👍

Lisa has moved back to parent some time ago......new President is Laura B ....

Not what the OP said, but in answer to what you said..."f you are wanting to meet and mingle with those in their thirties and forties I would say that Celebrity is a poor choice."

Are they asking now on both sites for an age notification? or do you have insight into one's postings as to which demographic they belong? 😉🤔. As for suite customers, yes, lately there has been more than usual suite booking identification, along with how many sailings, and their CC status. Perhaps there are many more who enjoy the 'suite' life, but they choose to keep it to themselves.

There's always Carnival....

It's all relative...someone 100 would think I was a spring chicken...🤞

or Captains Club....

nitpicker....😁

You're right....this was not good...refurbished or not. On a RCL ship many years ago, we walked into 'our' cabin which was as you described...sheers hanging off the rod, big wet dirty spot in front of the verandah, etc. Didn't wait to uppack...went directly to GS and in a snitty mood anyway from having a sore throat I insisted in my most authoritarian voice that we be moved. Told there were no cabins available...I said I'd sleep in the area in front of their desk until they found one. Told to go to dinner and return and they'd have a solution. They 'offered' us the 2nd highest suite category and would that be okay with us? Huh? In a heartbeat. I don't think anyone should have to put up with a less than clean cabin that is in good condition. Unfortunately you were in the best location so where would you move? Hopefully they gave it an intense going over and put it in good order? BTW....I was not insinuating you were not clean; sorry if my comment came across that way.

Summit has been refurbished and I'm told first hand that areas observed are in good condition. We all should remember that older is just that...not newer....there's going to be wear and tear in some areas just like 'us' as we age...😉.

This part of the 'story' didn't escape me...." My suite was dirty - carpet, sheers, bedskirt were filthy. " May be in isolation to the cabin and other cabins were fine. Some would expect more from the 'owner's suite' but should it's condition be any better than the other cabin classes?

We sailed a renovated Silhouette last Nov. No change to cabin storage as they did not/could not move the cabinetry. Only carpet, linens, drapes, etc updated to blue/grey. I thought it looked much cleaner (not colder) than the orange/brown decor.

My O long time cruising friends have told me the 'older' ships are iffy and to try the Regatta/Marina/Vista for a 'first experience'. Some of the older X ships also have these same concerns when you read reviews.

We're thinking of booking A1 or PH. Was there a reason you moved to a B3 from A1 concierge? Reading pros and cons on this forum compared with Celebrity. Seems the same critiques on both. We aren't lounge people so bars etc wouldn't influence our booking. We live a quiet life year round (except for our golf club activities in the summer months) so we look forward to 'people', excursions, and entertainment. Our cabin and balcony is also quite important. After viewing many videos, it seems the O balconies accommodate 2 chairs and small table and the PH doesn't seem much larger (maybe on Vista?). Celebrity has medium size balconies but Suite class has room enough for an additional lounger. No doubt the O upper suites have larger balconies. We have friends who are long time O sailors who book the longer cruises/suites and prefer the Terrace cafe on most evenings to specialty or main dining. They've cautioned us to temper (not lower or raise) our expectations as compared with Celebrity as we're long time (30+ cruises ) with Celebrity and more on most other lines. Each embodies a different experience for different tastes I suppose.

I compared Celebrity with hotel online pricing for this hotel. I booked with the hotel...it was a better price but may be due to the stay date. If you book with Celebrity do you have the same refundable/cancellation options? Is it payable at the time of the cruise final payment?

Thank you for your kindness. Hope your search is successful.

What an awful judgemental comment to make. Sometimes an oldie is a goodie! Also, there seemed to be cards in the slot which wouldn't be good 'floating' around.

Thank you for your objective and informative 'review' of your experience. We're considering a change from X to O (😉) and this tips the scale a little. Cruising is subjective however, so won't dissuade us from trying the product with eyes wide open. We're Elite + on X but changes from past experience, while minor, has lowered the expectation. The Vista seems to be a beautiful ship...we were docked beside her in Nov...and noted the outside decks, pool area, and aft. Your pics of the interior PH are quite nice, but I agree, the E ships bed facing ocean are lovely. Balcony seemed larger on E than O as well, which is important to us as we do spend some time out in the ocean air. Dining is always important to cruisers and most say the advantage of O is the menu etc offerings. Perhaps it was a timing issue for you which spoils the experience. Loved the wine pairings with the Cellar Masters Lunch..happy you were happy and had a positive dining experience to take home.

OMG ....how could you possibly sail more without actually moving from ship to ship to ship almost all year....😉. I enjoy following you on the X board and terribly jealous of your frequent sailings. Considering an O cruise in the near future so I check in with this board for others' experiences. So far, so good, and then I see the same complaints or variations of that I read on X. Marina and Vista would be my choice but the itineraries/schedules aren't working for 2024.

If you have a particular time or restaurant preference, I'd book it now. No harm done. If you change your mind onboard, then move to your booked time or open seating.

May I ask which cabin category/deck you were in. I'm 🤞for our Eclipse sailing. Definitely do not want a dilapidated cabin or dining room experience such as you describe.

I rec'd one about a month ago re our Nov. 23 cruise. Not phishy. I replied to it. Seemed they wanted my honest opinion. What they do with it is something else. But I didn't mind them asking.