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I can only imagine what you think of me, someone on this side of the pond, who hasn't been in a movie theatre in at least 10 years (probably more like 15-20 since my daughter was very young) and no I don't have any streaming service to watch movies either. I just don't care to watch movies, I don't care about Oscars and the only reason I know about "the slap" was because there was no way to not see the coverage of it around here when it happened.

You sure did, look at post 56.

If "in this regards" refers to my comparison to the airlines and US regulations imposed on them, I'll remind you that the majority of airlines doing business in the United States are foreign entities and they are beholden to US regulations. Look - I'm not saying the cruise lines are or should be regulated like airlines. I was just explaining one reason airlines are much more interested in avoiding IDBs than cruise lines are.

Daniels? Say it ain't so... Please don't ruin an otherwise decent bourbon that way... 😉 🙂

I assume everything spent above the cruise fare is considered on board spend in the context of this article (maybe they exclude excursions). So, yes, the onboard should have dropped like a rock. I assume they are building it back up by upselling the drink packages, extra dining, extra internet, paying for various activities, etc.

In other words, there will be a renewed focus on nickel and diming their guests. My prediction: We'll need to start paying to see the very fine entertainment NCL is getting a reputation for.

It should mean something. If not, get rid of the "loyalty" program because then clearly there is no loyalty. Exactly. Well that's a helluva a way to run a business. That's what the airlines do in an oversold situation. The difference is, government regulations are much harder on the airlines for Involuntary Denied Boarding (IDB) than cruise lines. So the airlines have incentive to avoid IDBs. I can't imagine we'd ever see such regulations for cruise lines.

My more recent experience has been that the waiter or someone will confirm that you are celebrating something before they bring anything out. It is at that point you can simply ask them not to make any fuss.

Thing I hate that many love: Hot tubs. Hate them anywhere except a private residence. In my opinion they are nothing more than heated petri dishes. I love the fitness centers - early mornings when they open. I workout daily and enjoy getting to try a different gym for free.

Ugh... Not what I want to hear, I hope this is not the case when I cruise in November. Ugh again. Not looking good for Cagneys. Maybe there's hope. Regardless, I'll be eating there in November. I hate this in land based restaurants too, it's so very tacky in my opinion. Bring over a birthday cake if you must, but absolutely no singing. (I'm pretty sure I've told the waiters on the ship "no signing" when they asked about something we were celebrating and they have always respected it) That's too bad - dueling pianos is all about the entertainers and their personalities, how well they play off each other and the audience. I like dueling pianos on land and sea - the one time I saw them on NCL (Getaway I think?) there were three entertainers and they were among the best we've seen anywhere. Late in the evening, other cruise ship entertainers started joining them and it just got better. That all being said, we've also walked out of more than a few dueling piano bars where after about 30 minutes it was clear it wasn't good and not likely to get any better.

This is really what it comes down to. While I agree that there is plenty of money in many pockets, I wonder if there is plenty of money in enough pockets.

Having never been allowed pas the gates of steerage I was unaware of the bed configuration in the Haven. I assumed the sofa was convertible into beds 5 & 6 (like a hotel sleeper sofa). If you are saying one of the 6 beds is actually in one of the BRs, then I agree something doesn't make sense.

But if there is any Haven room available for upgrades, then why not give that Haven Room to OP? I know why - revenue. But regardless, I think that's the OP's point, if there is a Haven avaialbel, give them that instead of the balcony. Right? Completely dismisses the fact that the OP consciously decided to book 5 adults in that room. Typical CC. But the CC crowd won't let that stop them... But in this case the OP is paying for Haven for everyone.

Bingo - that's the situation I'd not experienced and therefore hadn't contemplated. Thank you for explaining. And in the US as well. But, at least in the US there is a purposeful shared toilet available. A purposeful shared toilet is different from "your toilet doesn't work but you can use the restroom down the hall".

I'm on the 11/13 Encore and I got our bid e-mail yesterday.

In many municipalities the residence would be condemned - meaning people couldn't live there until it was fixed.

I think those small boats are the best way to whale watch. We went with Jayleen's uncle, Steve Olmstead (Alaska Humpback Adventures) and had a similar experience. As I recall at one point Steve was on the radio to Jayleen and next thing we know we're zipping towards her location to see a group (pod?) of whales. Seems those small boats have a lot more flexibility. Loving the review, we're on Encore when she starts Caribbean cruises in November.

Thank you for the kind words. But, to be clear I am not an engineer, I was a mechanical contractor. However, I most definitely defer to the expertise of chengkp75 here who has stated that it could take days to unclog something. I take chengkp75 at his word but running a roto-rotor on the same clog for 3 days straight, by 3 men, is beyond my imagination.

What I wrote was "It shouldn't take 3 days to fix a plumbing problem on a ship like the Encore." To which you replied: "So NCL purposely took 3 days to fix everything when they could have gotten it fixed in one day? Not only is NCL to blame for someone's pratfall but now they are purposely delaying to fix the problem? " It is that twisting of my words that I objected to. I never said they did anything "purposefully". I just said it shouldn't have happened. And I stand by that statement, it shouldn't take 3 days to fix a plumbing problem. If you must know, I am a licensed mechanical contractor for over 35 years. And believe it or not land based mechanical contractors are frequently are engaged to work on large ships in port. That being said, I've never personally worked on the mechanicals in a cruise ship. Of course not, but that shouldn't matter because I very clearly stated "I have no idea why it took 3 days" which most reasonable people would infer means that I don't know what the root problem was. I also said "Maybe they don't have the right expertise..." and "maybe they needed parts..." - more indication that I didn't know what the problem was. I'm sorry you weren't able to comprehend these basic facts from what I wrote, hopefully you understand now. Yeah you did, see the first point in this post and the next one. And this is another example of you twisting my words. I used the word "maybe". I'm sure you know what that word means. The fact that you take my "maybe" and change it to a definitive statement ("you are saying NCL does not have properly trained mechanics and plumbers...") is in fact twisting my words. I think everyone agrees on that point, I certainly never said anything to the contrary. Oh - so you know what the problem was ("clogged major lines")? You are a a maritime plumber who was on board and diagnosed the problem? Why didn't you say so? Can you explain exactly what you and the maintenance team were doing for 72 hours to unclog that line? I never said anything about cancelling cruises. Where did that come from? It would be much easier to understand and follow your points if you weren't all over the place with them.

I never said anything of the sort. I have no idea why it took 3 days. Maybe they don't have the right expertise on board to fix it and they were bumbling around trying but failing? OP said it was mid cruise when it got fixed, maybe they needed parts or expertise that came aboard in San Juan or St Thomas? I don't really care what the reason was, all I know is that many people in this thread (including you) seem to agree that toilet clogs happen. If it's that regular of an occurrence, then, the ship should be prepared to deal with it in less than 3 days time. And if they aren't, shame on them. Twist your words? You blatantly put words into my mouth I never wrote.

Sure, but with 2000+ "apartments" and being at sea, you better have staff on the ship to deal with these things. It shouldn't take 3 days to fix a drain problem. But NCL knows that "yoyo"s putting the wrong stuff in the toilets is a risk and they should be prepared for that. It shouldn't take 3 days to fix a plumbing problem on a ship like the Encore. The problem isn't the fact that toilets clogged or were unusable, the problem is it took three days to fix.

I agree with this statement, especially the favoritism.

So you think it makes sense to display $1149.89, and within the context of that $1149.89 mention Furutre Cruise Credit and Onboard Credit with no details as to how much each one is in relation to the 1149.89? People are just supposed to guess? Or, I guess you've stated it elsewhere, they are supposed to know NCL's intent ("Through this whole pandemic, any and all cancellations have been either refunded to the method of payment or to FCC....NEVER to OBC"). Well, believe it or not, it should never be incumbent on the customer to know the business's intent. No, it is not a guess at all. It is a direct response to your claim. You are the one that is guessing - remember when you wrote this: "Had there been an OBC, there would have been information below both headings." That is what I was responding to as indicated by the quote of your words above mine. (I assume you are guessing. Have you actually seen what you described? Can you show us the screen shot? Or perhaps you've seen the specification for the user interface?) Really? You found it important to explain the distinction between "IT" and the application developers? Thanks, that's really helpful to the conversation. The error was somewhere in the chain of application requirements specification through to program execution and display to the end user. Is that better? Technically, it's all "IT".

That makes no sense for the screen layout shown. What you are saying is the $1149.89 could potentially be multiple forms of credit (FCC and OBC at the least). If that is true, then, it should have indicated under the FCC heading just how much of the credit was FCC and presumably state under OBC $0. That screen doesn't communicate anything like that. This really looks like an screwup on the IT side, a bug in what information is being displayed. I agree the OP has a very legitimate complaint.

I don't know, I'd think others on this board coudl answer better. Lacking any other information, I'd check myself in and not check in the no-show. Get to pier and play dumb - I hope they make it, but, I don't know when they will get here...