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What I find sad an basically unacceptable to this ridiculous change is they have not sent out an email or nothing it’s just like oh everyone follows his  highness or is on cruise critic or keeps up with all the latest info. What happens to a new cruiser or someone that basically just doesn’t understand how all of this stuff works , I have been on 30 something cruises and know to check and re check but I can see someone walk in and be like oh crap and they are SOL . Carnival will be like oh sorry well bye. 

I beginning to think they aren’t even answering phones or even processing anything, They canceled our B2B cruises on the Freedom out of New Jersey by just putting a little oh your cruise is canceled on the page where it listed on where u manage It . No email no nothing. I tried yesterday sat on hold for 2 hours and nothing, have sent emails to 2 different sources and no response. So just going to do something else for August. I assume eventually they will refund my money who knows. 

We are booked B2B on The Freedom in August . A 4 and 5 day cruise already paid in full on both wondering if it’s going out ? Been waiting to see if they are canceling it or what . Have air , hotel in NYC . Guess maybe we have a shot now. 

I will see you in 2022 . Or maybe NYE of 21 . But good luck . 

I was hopeful for March -May timeframe . I had said all along we would not sail in 2020 but now 60k cases the other day everywhere is spiking people just dont seem to care . Maybe mid summer if we get a full vaccine .  Hope earlier . I saw Dr, Faucci say we could start by late 2020 with or early 21 . Hoping our April TA will go. But will not be shocked if also gets cancelled. 

13 hours ago, BirdTravels said:

 

A vaccine will only be effective if people take the vaccine. And the effectiveness is greater than the 50% minimum. 
 

And by people, I refer to the 7.6B people of the world. Not just the  6.8M people in Tennessee. Even the vice presidential candidate just said she was not willing to take the vaccine. 

Really wow I never would have figured that out on my own , thanks for point that out ... LOL 

17 hours ago, flyguyjake said:

Spring 2021 would be a miracle. Realistically a widely available vaccine to the masses won't be until summer 2021.

We have a Feb cruise which  I found doubtful at this point . I do  Hold some hope for an April TA but who knows . Dr Faucci seemed pretty optimistic about a couple of the vaccines by the end of the year starting to roll out and he acted like by early part of 21 they would mass available. But like you I will wait and see,. 

It will continue again until the end of the year  , I said this long long long time ago when people where oh we will sail in Aug , then Sept then Oct. Nobody is going anywhere until they get a vaccine. But hey what do I know .  

2 minutes ago, lr657 said:

 

We can just drive to the port and are not expecting to sail, but I'm sure people that have airline and hotel reservations would like to know if their cruise is sailing since November is 3 weeks away. 

 

That was my point with The NYE cruise , Not only did we have air and hotel paid for the cruise itself was quite expensive . I had most of it paid for plus a couple of excursions . Nice to get the money back and use it on something else. 

14 minutes ago, lr657 said:

 

 

At that point I think Royal is being unfair to those that are booked in November and still unsure whether to make further travel plans. If the other cruise lines have already decided, I'm sure Royal also knows what it's going to do.

We had a NYE cruise with Carnival so glad they didnt keep us guessing . It was out of Long Beach .  Just wanted to know . I do not see Royal getting things up and going in 3 weeks . But who knows . Carnival is down to just a select few sailings out of Florida. 

Wait I thought the White house didn't let cdc extend ban? I'm confused.

Your not confused Carnival is smart enough to realize that the virus is still out there and is not willing to risk their staff or endanger people just to make a buck . Even though everyone would jump on a ship and go . I personally will not go until there is a vaccine but hey that’s just me.


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My thing is people cant even follow rules going to the grocery store .... wear a mask . stand  6 feet apart . How are going to follow rules on a ship . They couldnt even follow rules before Covid  like wash your hands before going into the buffet . I  am sure all us of saw many people walk right by the washing stations and go straight in. Yea good luck with having a lot of rules for people to follow. 

 

1 hour ago, xDisconnections said:

They tried adding a larger ship there. The consistent $249 fares for a 7 day cruise when the competition and unsold staterooms didn't leave it practical.

 

Destiny to Victory to Valor to Liberty to Fascination.

I find it hard to believe Carnival couldnt fill a Larger  ship in  San  Juan  on regular Basis  we sailed on the Adventure of the seas like 6 times out of SJ never once did we not have a full ship . Most of the times we went it was spring or fall . Prices were always decent which is why we wen t they didnt give them away . But Royal always had great itinerary which is why we always picked them and the fact they used the adventure the other reason . 

20 hours ago, stobe1 said:

I am suprised that @xDisconnections hasnt swung by this thread yet like (s)he does on every Fantasy class thread to say good riddance or something along those lines.  😉

 I would rather read this than the ones of people that say they set and cry for days about a  ship that is scrapped . Give me a break . Its a ship . Life will go on . Trust me I have  tons of  memories on a lot of ships  but in the scheme of things  its a big piece of metal . The crew and the itinerary make the week , not the piece of metal I go on .  Just my opinion . 

5 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

The boss loves Kays and the family. We last saw Prince in Nassau. We were invited to the family wedding in Orlando. Good people. 
 

I like one of the shirts they gave me , Happy Wife, Happy Life. 
 

M8

My  late wife discover them in St Martin lot of years ago . Yogi became her best friend , she would email him when we were coming and he would have something special made and waiting on  her .  I recently met someone and turned her on to cruising and made the mistake of taking her to Kays  has cost me a fortune LOL . 

2 hours ago, island lady said:

Not just in the Carib.  This has really devastated places like Alaska too.  

 

We are heading there on the 1st of August.  Without cruise ships, (our B2B Radiance was cancelled) and many other tourist venues...it is really hurting them.  They make all of their tourism money in a short 4 month season.  Strict travel regulations for just flying into the state as well.  

 

Talked to several of the cabin owners and B&Bs recently that we will be staying with.  They are so grateful we are still coming (and not cancelling) like most everyone did.  The cruise port areas like Juneau, etc. where it is fly in or come in by boat/ship...losing out big time as well.  

Well I live near Nashville I mean they live for tourist . Most of those bars have people that work on tips . So I know its other areas are suffering . This whole thing stinks  and is not going to get any better anytime soon i fear. 

Got an email this morning from Kays fine Jewelry in St. Martin and several other places they have stores we buy our Jewelry from them got me thinking how bad it must be on some of the Islands that live and die on cruise passengers money . One of our last cruises we had to miss Costa Maya so they went on To Cozumel and spent the night we arrived at 4pm and they all stayed open till late just too accommodate us and the stores we were in they were smiling and happy . We ate at Bubba Gumps and I said man you guys must be tired long day they all said we are here for you guys , we love when you come in . They were all so nice to us. This was like 9 pm or something . I Know a guy that works one of the excursions on Passion Island met him years ago he told me his main source of income was that tour and the tips. Pretty sure they dont get unemployment like we do over here . Wonder how they feed their families ? 

Lets face facts you can say majority of ships are going nowhere this year . I have said that all along and people are like OMG that is crazy what do you know . Well now they have cancelled until Oct 1 or there about . They will postpone again as long as the virus is still bouncing around . Use common sense rather than I NEED A CRUISE philosophy . Just my opinion no facts but I was right about Sept and said it a long time ago. 

Here in lies the problem , how many people do you read …. I NEED A CRUISE NOW .  I swear there are people that would get on a ship even if they knew they were sick  . They are of the mind oh I wont infect anyone. Same ones running around town and not wearing mask .So many don't even believe its real its all a hoax . You read it everyday .  All it would take is one cruise going out and bunch of people coming back sick and the cruise industry is done for a long time. 

Finally got a rep … Full refund  . 

1 minute ago, pstone1 said:

Simple for me on the phone.  Gave her my Reservation #, chose the refund option, and was finished in less than 5 minutes!  The CRS said it would be 30-45 days for the refund back to my card!

My rep said there was NO WAY you got a refund on this cruise LOLOLOL . I said well I l know she did we are friends , He know way that cruise isn't refunding yet . So I am trying for another rep . 

5 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

Was pretty easy for me to do online for my last two cancellations.  

That will give you give you full CC refund , I do not want FCC . 

Well I was on the phone and they wouldn't cancel mine , said to call back later . 

Well that ends any chance of our Sept Hawaii cruise now doesn't it . Not that we figured it had much of chance anyway . 

 

On 5/23/2020 at 8:28 AM, lr657 said:

 

People who previously got sick on cruise ships rarely ended up becoming critically ill and requiring ventilator support. If passengers previously became critically ill on a ship, there could always be arrangements made to get them off the ship so they could get the care that was needed. This is not the case with COVID19. It's a highly contagious virus that little is yet known about. It likely will be around for years but at the moment there is not yet a vaccination and no real proven treatment. 

I agree , we went out this past Feb in the height of Flu season and didn't get sick . But this is way way more contagious .