chengkp75

So, what you are saying is that "being able to find your muster station" meets the objective of the passenger muster drill, but not for the crew muster drill. Crew must be dumber than passengers, then, and their time less valuable than passengers. So, the poor passengers who remain onboard on port days are subjected to reduced passenger services for longer than the required crew drill, so that the vast majority of the crew can leave their duties and train as "passengers" or those herding passengers. They also get to be subjected to interference in their cabins and public spaces as the crew search those areas (don't recycle your fantasy that the crew can do this during their incredibly busy turn around day), and the crew have to give up any chance of shore leave in order to participate in another drill. Lots of regard for "the hired help" here.

No, you answered whether you thought the passenger muster drill met the objective of the drill. I asked, based on your model, whether the crew drill should be done similarly to the e-muster, since that meets the objective of the drill, and whether doing a weekly in person crew drill was a "waste of the troops time".

Never answered the question.

Yes, Disney started back with the in person drill before NCL, and you don't hear all the outrage about it on their forum. It's the ones who don't want to "waste my precious vacation time" who are all arguing against it.

Let me ask you this question. On their first day on the ship, the crew are shown where their muster station is, both for "fire and emergency" and "abandon ship" (most have two different stations). Since in an abandon ship situation, the vast majority of the crew don't have any more responsibility than passengers during their muster, that is, to be mustered and to board the life rafts, according to your model, the first day orientation meets the objective of the muster ("finding your muster station"), and therefore the practice of having the entire crew participate in the abandon ship drill is outdated and a waste of the crew's time? The "finding of your muster station" is not the objective of the muster drill. May you never find yourself in a real shipboard emergency, when you learn that there rarely is any method of "escape", that doesn't also threaten your life.

Can you enlighten us as to how you know this fact?

Water is tested monthly. However, not every single shower head is tested, and Legionella will not live in the chlorinated water circulating around ships. It will develop in a place where water and air are both present, the water has been stationary for a few hours so that the chlorine has dissipated (inside the shower head itself). So, unless you test the positive shower head as part of the random testing, you won't know the bacteria is there. Additionally, ship's shower heads are required to be fitted with backflow preventers, which would keep the contaminated water from migrating in any way back from the shower head into the circulating system (homes don't have this).

Yes, this is correct. Federal law ends at the gangway, essentially, and flag state law takes jurisdiction. Further, even countries where pot is legal, or decriminalized, do not allow pot on ships, as the IMO has regulated ships as zero tolerance, and the ships won't want the possibility of "cross contamination" between passengers and crew. This is why the ticket contracts prohibit drug use, including cannabis. As far as Carnival is concerned, both Panama and Bahamas have pot as illegal, and Bahamas has a "craft industry" of busting tourists for pot possession, so, in fact, as long as those laws remain intact, the ships would not be allowed to legalize pot.

And, again, the same old complaint against the in person muster, that I have told you does not need to be a part of the muster drill.

Convenient that you don't mention the other aspects of the drill, that I've repeated for you several times. Also interesting that someone who has experience in military training has what appears to be a low regard for a chain of command, and proper response to emergency conditions.

The crew fire and boat drills do require near complete participation from the crew, but those who are tasked with guiding passengers to muster, and searching the ship (both of which are integral parts of the "fire and general emergency" drill when the signal sounds (the signal that passengers believe is the "abandon ship" signal), are only done in simulation to not affect passenger service. The passenger muster drill uses several hundred crew, many of which the passengers never see, because their job starts as the passengers are moving to muster, and they are clearing the ship behind the passengers. This is vital interaction between the crew, in emergency "mode", and the passengers to work as a team to save life.

It's actually a 215mm radius circle, or 16.9" width.

It's actually 87.5 kg or 192.5 lbs.

I'm kinda assuming that the two cases were in the same cabin, so if it was contracted on the ship, it was likely from one shower head.

Royal Caribbean had a ship with Legionnaire's about 4 years ago. It really isn't something that only happens on older ships.

This would have to be a cruise that begins in Vancouver, Canada, and ends in Hawaii. However, these tend to be repositioning cruises, so the Vancouver-Hawaii are September, while the Hawaii to Vancouver ones are April.

I know when I was with NCL, that we had to turn off all the air jets on the hot tubs, since the hot tub temperature is the prime breeding temperature for Legionnaire's, and then you purposely aerosolized it. I think they have allowed using the air jets again. The other common area for Legionnaire's is a shower head, where there is always a little water still in the head when shut off, and this mixes with the air, and the bacteria grows, and then is transmitted by the shower spray. For this reason, the shower heads have to be taken off every 6 months and soaked in a sanitizing solution. With a report of Legionnaire's from a passenger, they will start testing various water sources around the ship (mostly the shower heads of the affected passengers' cabins), to see if it indeed did come from the ship, and whether mitigation methods have removed it. Ship's water is tested monthly, both from storage tanks, and also 6 random locations around the ship (like sinks, showers, galleys, laundry), but a mitigation testing would test far more locations.

Not sure what services the spa offers, but it must include aerosolized water, like a shower, to have any possibility of being a Legionnaire's source.

The bathroom razor outlet is limited to 40 milliamps, or about 5 watts. Check your waterpik or toothbrush fine print.

Most likely because nothing was reported during the cruise, and it wasn't diagnosed for a while afterwards (by the person's PCP). Then, they had to test to see if the Legionnaire's was caused by the ship or not (testing hot tubs and shower heads).

The lifeboats have a total capacity of 7392, while the maximum passenger capacity is 6631. Then there are life rafts with a capacity of 3672 for only 1735 crew. So, while she is required to have 125% life saving capacity, she has 132%.

I've seen reports of some who had them work, and some who didn't. It is not ship specific, it is what is happening on the ship at the time that determines.

Are you asking about the OP's cruise or cruisingsister's cruise? I was questioning whether cruisingsister's cruise was the Panama Canal, because that is the only place that I know requires port fees in advance with no refund, though Suez may be the same, it's been a few years since I transited Suez. As for the OP's cruise, this would most likely have resulted in a 24 hour delay from time the ship estimated arrival after delaying in Costa Rica, as getting a daylight priority slot would have meant bumping lower priority ships. Container ships are just about as high priority as cruise ships, they pay a premium for a guaranteed slot, but they will take night transits just as well, and pay about the same as a cruise ship. Tankers and bulkers are the lowest priority (especially in ballast ones), so the first to get bumped.

Yes, the doors are metal, no you cannot decorate them. This article from CC back in 2019, has quotes from NCL spokesperson: https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/4373/

Unless this was for the Panama Canal, this explanation is not correct. No ship pays port fees prior to entering the port, with the exception of the Canal, where the deposit is needed 24 hours in advance.