Cigar Smoking on Verandahs

[usha]

Let's give a shout-out for bad breath:p

[pipedreams62]

Let's give a shout-out for bad breath:p

 

Thanks for the good belly laugh

 

OMG Usha you're going on a cruise real soon. Have a wonderful time

[suse]

Thanks for the good belly laugh

 

OMG Usha you're going on a cruise real soon. Have a wonderful time

Can you bring me back one of those souv. mugs, a cruise critic magnet, and I need one of those gadgets you can pin to your dress clothes to really show them you are a true mariner, as opposed to fake.

Have an awesome time....................:)

[sealovers]

Smoke on the Water

Cruise Ships: Where You Can & Can't Smoke

Churchill's Cigar Bar Aboard Queen Victoria

by Linda Coffman

One of the unhappiest groups of cruisers I've even met were four World War II veterans aboard R-1. It was back in 1999, when now defunct-Renaissance Cruises was the only no-smoking-allowed cruise line in existence. The otherwise charming vets were all cigarette smokers whose wives thought a cruise on a non-smoking ship would prompt them to abandon their habit. They groused about their wives' deception, but managed to take matters into their own hands. In the wee hours of every morning while everyone else was fast asleep, the disgruntled vets held a "smoker" on the fantail of the ship.

While such an action isn't necessary on most ships these days, it is getting harder and harder to find a place to light up during a cruise. Ships are catching up to the rest of the hospitality industry and the smoking lamp has gone out in virtually all restaurants and showrooms at sea, as well as many of their bars and lounges. While casinos are one of the last bastions of smokers, some have "smoke-free" nights to clear the air.

Airlines were leaders in the non-smoking revolution, followed by restaurants and hotels that gradually phased in separate areas for smokers and then eliminated them altogether. Now, local governments across the United States and even Europe have enacted legislation that bans smokers from bars and even some outdoor cafes. The cruise industry was slow to follow the trend, mainly because of non-US passengers who don't object to smoking and, more importantly because of groups. Group bookings are important to cruise lines and groups hesitate to book on a non-smoking ship if even a minority of their members smoke. Groups don't want to leave anyone out or put them in an uncomfortable environment. There is also the matter of revenue. Carnival Cruise Lines' experiment with the smoke-free Carnival Paradise ended in less than a decade. The ship never matched the revenue of the rest of its fleetmates.

Think of that small group of veterans—they probably wouldn't be able to get away with their fantail rebellion these days. And, happily for them, they wouldn't have to break the rules on most cruise ships. Smokers realize there are designated places to smoke and places that are entirely smoke-free on the seas and most are willing to accept the compromise. The first thing they do is check for ashtrays and make friends with other smokers. "We're outcasts, aren't we?" is a common conversation starter between smokers who gather in smoking-designated areas. Cigar aficionados don't suffer the same indignities when they have their own "cigar lounge" to retreat to. They are accustomed to being banned from most public areas and are happy to find a lounge that accepts them. Otherwise, they are relegated to an outdoor deck, along with pipe smokers.

Only about twenty percent of American adults are currently smokers so it's not a big deal that smoking areas have shrunk. We applaud the cruise lines for their health and safety concerns, but also give them high marks for not ostracizing the minority of smokers who want to be comfortable with their habit. It's a win-win situation in most cases.

Smoking At Sea

Never smoke in an elevator, on stairways, or in corridors. As a rule of thumb, if there's an ashtray at hand, you can smoke; if there's food served nearby, you can't. Pipes, and sometimes cigars, are often restricted to open decks. These are some of the specific dos and don'ts:

Azamara Cruises

Where to Smoke: Small sections for smokers are located on the port side of the Looking Glass Lounge and the forward area of the pool deck on the starboard side.

Where NOT to Smoke: No other areas on the ships allow smoking, including all restaurants, lounges, casinos, cabins and balconies.

Carnival Cruise Lines

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and designated areas in lounges and bars.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and the pool deck on those ships that have "indoor" areas serving food nearby.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and designated areas on open decks.

Celebrity Cruises

Where to Smoke: The port side of one lounge per ship, a designated slot machine area in each ship's casino, and designated areas on open decks, including the port side of the pool deck and sundecks on each ship, the port side of the Sunset Bar on Celebrity Century and on Celebrity's Millennium class of ships, and the port side aft outside of Winter Garden on Celebrity Mercury.

Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, show lounges, theaters, and restaurants, as well as the entire starboard side--indoors and outside. Celebrity Solstice's Lawn Club and the Sunset Bar at the Lawn Club do not allow smoking.

Cigars: Cigars are allowed only in designated sections of the open decks.

Costa Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, open decks, and designated smoking areas in public rooms.

Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in designated areas, including cigar lounges and on open decks.

Crystal Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and private balconies.

Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are allowed in the Connoisseur Club and most open decks.

Cunard Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated smoking sections of some bars and lounges.

Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, theaters, the library, and all restaurants.

Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are permitted in cigar lounges, as well as on designated areas of open decks.

Disney Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabin balconies and designated starboard-side open deck areas (including near the adults-only pool).

Where NOT to Smoke: All other indoor areas, including cabins, are smoke-free.

Holland America Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.

MSC Cruises

Where to Smoke: In Cigar rooms, casinos, one dedicated lounge, and designated areas on open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, restaurants, show lounges, and all bars with the exception above.

Norwegian Cruise Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, cigar lounges, and designated areas on open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor public areas, with the exceptions noted above, and outdoor food venues.

Oceania Cruises

Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted only in the aft port side of Horizons, and the starboard forward section of the outdoor Pool Deck.

Where NOT to Smoke: All other areas are smoke-free. This includes all cabins and balconies, restaurants, public rooms, and open decks except for the two designated smoking areas.

Oceania has tightened its smoking regulations with a "zero tolerance" policy, which imposes strict penalties upon those who smoke outside designated areas—up to and including disembarkation from the ship.

Princess Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and in designated areas in public rooms and open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, elevators, dining rooms, and all food service areas. Additionally, "smoke-free nights" are scheduled in the casino.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and on open decks; pipe smoking is allowed on open decks.

Regent Seven Seas Cruises

Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted on open decks, in the casino and Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated smoking areas in one lounge on each ship.

Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, all indoor dining areas, and all public rooms except as noted above.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated areas of open decks. Pipe smoking is permitted only in the Connoisseur Club on those ships and is prohibited on other ships.

Royal Caribbean

Where to Smoke: Private ocean view balconies, the starboard side of open decks, and in designated smoking areas of certain public rooms.

Where NOT to Smoke: In cabins (passengers who smoke in their cabins will be fined $250), restaurants, show lounges, passageways, the port sides of open decks, and one public lounge on each ship, which is designated non-smoking.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted within the cigar lounge. If no cigar lounge exists on the ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking

Seabourn Cruise Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and designated areas of open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants (including outside areas where food is served), lounges, and elevators.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only in designated areas on open decks after 9pm.

SeaDream Yacht Club

Where to Smoke: Outdoors on Decks 3, 4 and 6.

Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins, and outside on Decks 2 and 5.

Silversea Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, designated areas of The Bar, aft of the Terrace Café (outside), the casino, and designated areas on open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, the show lounge, and all other public rooms.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted in cigar lounges and designated areas on outside decks.

Windstar Cruises

Where to Smoke: Designated areas on outside decks only.

Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only on designated outside deck areas.

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Thanks for the consolidated list. There appears to be a cruiseline to appease anyone. Perfumes and other concentrated fragrance essences are not addressed anywhere though. I know someone whose allergy to perfumes (car fumes, chemicals and many other things) are so severe she cannot think of cruising and must rely on others to do most things that require being in a public area - - including grocery shopping. Thank goodness the usual reaction for most of us with those allergies is only a stuffy nose and sometimes an unpleasant lingering taste!

 

I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking.

[suse]

I was being facetious. Why would this fellow book a HAL cruise knowing they allow smoking then get on here and bitch about it. I see no difference in that and me booking a Celebrity knowing I can't smoke and bitching about it. What list are you referring to?

You know, that crazy long list at the beginning of this thread that tells you how the cruise lines are dealing with this smoking thing.

Of course we don't mean to tease about perfume. It makes my eyes water, I kid you not. I also can't stand too much makeup; it hurts my eyes to look at it.

I'm kind of a natural smachural. You know the kind; I like to hang my fresh laundry out on the line.............kind of that sort of thing.

Good luck. Best wishes.

[Zappa Fan]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

 

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)

[suse]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

 

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)

Logic does not apply on these boards. Sorry to let you down.

[suse]

Is Frank Zappa still alive?

[pipedreams62]

I'm kind of a natural smachural. You know the kind; I like to hang my fresh laundry out on the line.............kind of that sort of thing.

Good luck. Best wishes.

 

 

 

You don't mean this

 

 

[debmkay]

Whatever the rules are the rules are, obey them. smoker get over it, non smoker get over it.

[suse]

You don't mean this

 

 

That is foreign to me! I'm a jazzy kind of gal who likes to hang her sheets and non personal items on a clothes line. It's pretty hip these days to save the earth.:)

[suse]

Those sandals are gross and the socks look like they need a good washing. Ick. I can smell them from here. Disgusting.

[suse]

Whatever the rules are the rules are, obey them. smoker get over it, non smoker get over it.

You should run for office or something. That is so funny. Jest get over it you dopes.

Good night.;)

[usha]

Is Frank Zappa still alive?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no.

He died...of cancer. (prostate)

[cigarman]

Hello, my screen name is Cigarman. Wonder why? I quit smoking cigarettes almost three years ago on advice of my Doctor. Long story I won't get into.

However, when I cruise with my wife, who also quit smoking early last year, I enjoy sitting and relaxing with a nice port and good cigar. No brands will be mentioned to protect the real smokers who inhabit this forum.

I am sorry that my cigar smoke wafting onto and over your balcony causes you some discomfort. If you ask I would take a few more savory puffs and cut the end off to save it for later. If you expect me to crush it or throw my cigar overboard (heaven forbid) this I will not do. When I am attacked by your perfume I say nothing and go my way. I know second hand perfume won't for the most part kill me, but you get the point. Yes I go to the lounge after dinner for a drink and cigar with comradeship of fellow aficionados and I enjoy every smoked filled mouth full.

So for those of you who dislike the smell of a fine cigar, there has to be at least one of you, if you see me on a balcony and wish me to stop, please just ask instead of getting mad and writing a long missive on this board that gets all blown out of proportion.

And be warned that we will smoke our cigars in the bar after dinner when the ship gives us permission.

Now lets all get along and have a really great time cruising the way we know better then any other cruisers out there.

Thanks, Cigarman.

[usha]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

 

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)

"Those folks" would rather breathe air.

My suggestion for non-smokers is to write to the cruise lines who are not taking us seriously, and let them know that we'll be back when they get their act together, and adopt a stricter smoking policy.:cool:

[esther e]

Usha, love your new hair=do!!!!:)

[Zappa Fan]

Great post, CigarMan. I've been known to puff on an occasional cigar. We'd enjoy cruising with you and yours! ;)

[Zappa Fan]

"Those folks" would rather breathe air.

My suggestion for non-smokers is to write to the cruise lines who are not taking us seriously, and let them know that we'll be back when they get their act together, and adopt a stricter smoking policy.:cool:

 

Hi Usha.... HAL allows smoking. HAL has lessened their dress code. Perhaps it's time for the complainers to move on. (As fashion police suggest....I'm thinking that they might just have the right idea) Find a cruise line that FITS your comfort zone. Just thinking.... :)

[usha]

Hi Usha.... HAL allows smoking. Just thinking.... :)

...about that next ciggie???

Well, most folks are thinking about a lot of other non-stinky stuff.

I'll bet HAL is starting to wonder if maybe they should start catering to US????

Just thinking...:)

[Zappa Fan]

Have perfected my smoke-ring action. Ready to try it on MY balcony. :D

[usha]

Usha, love your new hair=do!!!!:)

Thanks, esther! You can make yourself a new hair do, too!

Just visit:

http://www.customsouthparks.com/ :cool:

[debmkay]

you know I am an ex smoker and If i could do the same as an ex cigar smoker I would. I would just smoke at casinos and happy Go for it and let me know how it goes !

[HWY 101]

Smoke on the Water

Cruise Ships: Where You Can & Can't Smoke

Churchill's Cigar Bar Aboard Queen Victoria

by Linda Coffman

One of the unhappiest groups of cruisers I've even met were four World War II veterans aboard R-1. It was back in 1999, when now defunct-Renaissance Cruises was the only no-smoking-allowed cruise line in existence. The otherwise charming vets were all cigarette smokers whose wives thought a cruise on a non-smoking ship would prompt them to abandon their habit. They groused about their wives' deception, but managed to take matters into their own hands. In the wee hours of every morning while everyone else was fast asleep, the disgruntled vets held a "smoker" on the fantail of the ship.

While such an action isn't necessary on most ships these days, it is getting harder and harder to find a place to light up during a cruise. Ships are catching up to the rest of the hospitality industry and the smoking lamp has gone out in virtually all restaurants and showrooms at sea, as well as many of their bars and lounges. While casinos are one of the last bastions of smokers, some have "smoke-free" nights to clear the air.

Airlines were leaders in the non-smoking revolution, followed by restaurants and hotels that gradually phased in separate areas for smokers and then eliminated them altogether. Now, local governments across the United States and even Europe have enacted legislation that bans smokers from bars and even some outdoor cafes. The cruise industry was slow to follow the trend, mainly because of non-US passengers who don't object to smoking and, more importantly because of groups. Group bookings are important to cruise lines and groups hesitate to book on a non-smoking ship if even a minority of their members smoke. Groups don't want to leave anyone out or put them in an uncomfortable environment. There is also the matter of revenue. Carnival Cruise Lines' experiment with the smoke-free Carnival Paradise ended in less than a decade. The ship never matched the revenue of the rest of its fleetmates.

Think of that small group of veterans—they probably wouldn't be able to get away with their fantail rebellion these days. And, happily for them, they wouldn't have to break the rules on most cruise ships. Smokers realize there are designated places to smoke and places that are entirely smoke-free on the seas and most are willing to accept the compromise. The first thing they do is check for ashtrays and make friends with other smokers. "We're outcasts, aren't we?" is a common conversation starter between smokers who gather in smoking-designated areas. Cigar aficionados don't suffer the same indignities when they have their own "cigar lounge" to retreat to. They are accustomed to being banned from most public areas and are happy to find a lounge that accepts them. Otherwise, they are relegated to an outdoor deck, along with pipe smokers.

Only about twenty percent of American adults are currently smokers so it's not a big deal that smoking areas have shrunk. We applaud the cruise lines for their health and safety concerns, but also give them high marks for not ostracizing the minority of smokers who want to be comfortable with their habit. It's a win-win situation in most cases.

Smoking At Sea

Never smoke in an elevator, on stairways, or in corridors. As a rule of thumb, if there's an ashtray at hand, you can smoke; if there's food served nearby, you can't. Pipes, and sometimes cigars, are often restricted to open decks. These are some of the specific dos and don'ts:

Azamara Cruises

Where to Smoke: Small sections for smokers are located on the port side of the Looking Glass Lounge and the forward area of the pool deck on the starboard side.

Where NOT to Smoke: No other areas on the ships allow smoking, including all restaurants, lounges, casinos, cabins and balconies.

Carnival Cruise Lines

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and designated areas in lounges and bars.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and the pool deck on those ships that have "indoor" areas serving food nearby.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and designated areas on open decks.

Celebrity Cruises

Where to Smoke: The port side of one lounge per ship, a designated slot machine area in each ship's casino, and designated areas on open decks, including the port side of the pool deck and sundecks on each ship, the port side of the Sunset Bar on Celebrity Century and on Celebrity's Millennium class of ships, and the port side aft outside of Winter Garden on Celebrity Mercury.

Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, show lounges, theaters, and restaurants, as well as the entire starboard side--indoors and outside. Celebrity Solstice's Lawn Club and the Sunset Bar at the Lawn Club do not allow smoking.

Cigars: Cigars are allowed only in designated sections of the open decks.

Costa Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, open decks, and designated smoking areas in public rooms.

Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in designated areas, including cigar lounges and on open decks.

Crystal Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and private balconies.

Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are allowed in the Connoisseur Club and most open decks.

Cunard Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated smoking sections of some bars and lounges.

Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, theaters, the library, and all restaurants.

Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are permitted in cigar lounges, as well as on designated areas of open decks.

Disney Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabin balconies and designated starboard-side open deck areas (including near the adults-only pool).

Where NOT to Smoke: All other indoor areas, including cabins, are smoke-free.

Holland America Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.

MSC Cruises

Where to Smoke: In Cigar rooms, casinos, one dedicated lounge, and designated areas on open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, restaurants, show lounges, and all bars with the exception above.

Norwegian Cruise Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, cigar lounges, and designated areas on open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor public areas, with the exceptions noted above, and outdoor food venues.

Oceania Cruises

Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted only in the aft port side of Horizons, and the starboard forward section of the outdoor Pool Deck.

Where NOT to Smoke: All other areas are smoke-free. This includes all cabins and balconies, restaurants, public rooms, and open decks except for the two designated smoking areas.

Oceania has tightened its smoking regulations with a "zero tolerance" policy, which imposes strict penalties upon those who smoke outside designated areas—up to and including disembarkation from the ship.

Princess Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and in designated areas in public rooms and open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, elevators, dining rooms, and all food service areas. Additionally, "smoke-free nights" are scheduled in the casino.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and on open decks; pipe smoking is allowed on open decks.

Regent Seven Seas Cruises

Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted on open decks, in the casino and Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated smoking areas in one lounge on each ship.

Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, all indoor dining areas, and all public rooms except as noted above.

Cigars: Cigar smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated areas of open decks. Pipe smoking is permitted only in the Connoisseur Club on those ships and is prohibited on other ships.

Royal Caribbean

Where to Smoke: Private ocean view balconies, the starboard side of open decks, and in designated smoking areas of certain public rooms.

Where NOT to Smoke: In cabins (passengers who smoke in their cabins will be fined $250), restaurants, show lounges, passageways, the port sides of open decks, and one public lounge on each ship, which is designated non-smoking.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted within the cigar lounge. If no cigar lounge exists on the ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking

Seabourn Cruise Line

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and designated areas of open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants (including outside areas where food is served), lounges, and elevators.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only in designated areas on open decks after 9pm.

SeaDream Yacht Club

Where to Smoke: Outdoors on Decks 3, 4 and 6.

Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins, and outside on Decks 2 and 5.

Silversea Cruises

Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, designated areas of The Bar, aft of the Terrace Café (outside), the casino, and designated areas on open decks.

Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, the show lounge, and all other public rooms.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted in cigar lounges and designated areas on outside decks.

Windstar Cruises

Where to Smoke: Designated areas on outside decks only.

Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins.

Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only on designated outside deck areas.

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[m steve]

and now I don't but I don't begrudge those who do. I don't understand someone who takes a cruise and smokes on the balcony all day and night. We are not taking X any longer due to non smoking policy for balconies. My partner smokes her cigarettes only where allowed to. Since there are a lot of lines prohibiting balcony smoking those with problems could choose them or just adjust to HAL and Princess policies. We choose them because of their policies and don't book Asamara, X or Oceania. There are some people who just want to dictate rules so others will be inconvenienced. There are cruise lines that fit every need and most are priced quite similarly and offer itineraries quite the same.