Why NO Hawaii on Celebrity? What's up with that??

[mikjr]

We love Celebrity, but I'm wondering why they no longer cruise to Hawaii and Mexico? I can't seem to find any itineraries to either destination.

 

We've cruise twice on Celebrity R/T out of Los Angeles to the Hawaiian Islands, and it was great!

[dkjretired]

Simple, supply and demand, make more profit on other itineraries, not enough ships for too many ports. They go where they make more money...

[CINDYSUE]

Told us on the last cruise, it was the fuel costs, which in turn, made the cost of the cruise too much.

[LV2KruzCats]

We were so disappointed that the Hawaii RT has been cancelled.:mad: We like to do that every fall, so this past October we tried the Golden Princess and we were very pleasantly suprised ! We are long time, super Elite with Celebrity and had never cruised with Princess, but enjoyed it so much we booked another while on board, for October 2010 !:D:D

 

You might want to check them out ~~ sorry Celebrity !

[usha]

There's a Constellation 15 night nude charter to Hawaii on March 13, 2010.

As far as I know, there is still space available.

Do a search for Constellation nude cruise.

[ewynn07]

We heard it had something to do with the casino's....didn't want betting in the Hawaiian waters.....just a rumor!!

[Ine]

Indeed it is strange that X doesnot sail to Hawaii (but also not to the Mexican Riviera) anymore.

Not only Princess but also HAL still do sailings from the westcoast to Hawaii in 2 weeks.

[barante]

We booked a HAL cruise out of San Diego for January 2011. Princess is allright but I like HAL better. Also, HAL has a smaller ship because I don't like ships that are too big.

I booked this early because the price was right, my wife has always wanted to go to Hawaii and we got the cabin we wanted. Didn't want to risk the possibility that people suddenly got interested in Hawaii and prices would go up or cabins would be gone.

[CanWeGoYet?]

Question & apologies in advance for slight derail: any truth to the rumor I've heard that hawaii cruises tend to be very rocky? I've seen some posts to the effect that people who get sea sick easily (like me) aren't doing their homework if they choose a hawaii cruise. I'd love to go on one but don't want to set myself up for misery. You all have been on these cruises so I figure I'd get some helpful answers.

[Spender Nui]

There's a Constellation 15 night nude charter to Hawaii on March 13, 2010.

As far as I know, there is still space available.

Do a search for Constellation nude cruise.

 

They might be chilly the first day or two out of port.

[Ine]

Question & apologies in advance for slight derail: any truth to the rumor I've heard that hawaii cruises tend to be very rocky? I've seen some posts to the effect that people who get sea sick easily (like me) aren't doing their homework if they choose a hawaii cruise. I'd love to go on one but don't want to set myself up for misery. You all have been on these cruises so I figure I'd get some helpful answers.

 

We sailed March 2007 on Summit to Hawaii. It was cold the 1st day, after that the weather was warmer. The ocean was very smooth at all times, hardly any waves. Just the first few hours sailing from LA we got some waves, but certainly not rough.

Of course it can be different on any sailing.

[robtulipe]

We heard it had something to do with the casino's....didn't want betting in the Hawaiian waters.....just a rumor!!

That only affects the NCL America ship that is US flagged and sails only between the Hawaiian islands. Any other foreign flagged ship need only go out into international waters to be able to open their casino. Those ships have to meet the Passenger Vessel Service Act requirements re leaving from, ending in or calling on a foreign port during their cruise.

On our Radiance of the Seas Hawaii cruise in May 08, the only time the casino was obliged to be closed was when we were in a Hawaiian port which including the one night we stayed in Lahaina harbor on Maui. I still have the Cruise Compass daily bulletins from that cruise and it shows the casino was opened 30 after the sailing time from all ports.

[sasset]

There have been a number of reasons given as to why Celebrity abandoned Hawaii ie. too hard on the entertainment staff to do activities for so many sea days comes to mind.

 

As are all decisions, probably revenue based...more money to be made on another itinerary.

 

Although we have done several transatlantics, we always found this a very desireable run having done it three years in a row. For us it meant no flying (we are just north of San Diego) and all of the issues that go with that. Now that the in-laws (yes I actually travel with my in-laws) have mobility problems flying is out so cruising with them is too.

[mikjr]

Question & apologies in advance for slight derail: any truth to the rumor I've heard that hawaii cruises tend to be very rocky? I've seen some posts to the effect that people who get sea sick easily (like me) aren't doing their homework if they choose a hawaii cruise.

 

We've been on several out of L.A. and San Diego to Hawaii... Although the first day or so out of the west coast is a bit rocky, I don't believe it was exceptionally bad... nothing that couldn't be handled with ginger or Bonine. I do remember one time only that it was a bit worse and people were sick, but that was once!

[JAKE3337]

We also love Celebrity but have been forced to switch to Carnival for April 2010 Honolulu - Vancouver. We love the sea days but the RCCL one is only 10 nights (5 being in Hawaii). The Carnival itineary is better with 7 nights in Hawaii and 5 sea days.

[critterchick]

We heard from a reliable source (which I won't name, so it's probably not reliable to anybody but us;)) that both RCI and Celebrity agreed in a court settlement to stay out of the Hawaii market for a period of 2 years so that NCLA wouldn't keep up their efforts to have the interpretation of the Passenger Services Act tightened up. You may recall that, a couple of years ago, there a proposal to prohibit foreign-flagged vessels from sailing between US ports (or round trip) without having extended stays in a foreign port, distant or otherwise. I don't remember all the details, but I do recall that it could have effectively killed the west coast market for all of the lines. Except NCLA, of course.:rolleyes:

 

We attended a Q&A onboard the Mariner with some senior RCI executives, and one of them actually said that RCI and X pulled out of the R/T Hawaii market because the law had changed.:eek: Of course they had no answer to the question of why Princess and HAL were still sailiing the route.It was really disheartening to see that they were either lying or ignorant.

 

Azamara is doing a few exotic Mexico itineraries, and of course RCI has to fill the Mariner, so perhaps X pulled out of that market to give their sister companies a chance. As several have already said, it's supply and demand - there are so many ships sailing Mexico that, especially in this economic environment, they just can't fill them all.

[mikjr]

We heard from a reliable source (which I won't name, so it's probably not reliable to anybody but us;)) that both RCI and Celebrity agreed in a court settlement to stay out of the Hawaii market for a period of 2 years so that NCLA wouldn't keep up their efforts to have the interpretation of the Passenger Services Act tightened up. You may recall that, a couple of years ago, there a proposal to prohibit foreign-flagged vessels from sailing between US ports (or round trip) without having extended stays in a foreign port, distant or otherwise. I don't remember all the details, but I do recall that it could have effectively killed the west coast market for all of the lines. Except NCLA, of course.:rolleyes:

 

We attended a Q&A onboard the Mariner with some senior RCI executives, and one of them actually said that RCI and X pulled out of the R/T Hawaii market because the law had changed.

 

For some reason, that whole thing just doesn't make sense... first off, Celebrity is still cruising from the EAST coast leaving American ports and stopping at foreign ports in the process... and they still cruise to Alaska, stopping in Canada. So, I think the RCI execs were pulling someones leg.

 

Also, I don't think there have been any changes in the Jones Act for years.

 

Whatever their reasons, they are sorely missed by this cruiser!!

[griswalds]

We cruised from LA and back to Hawaii a few years back on Princess. It was poor weather getting to and from Hawaii. Once at the Islands it was very nice but that was only 5 days of the 15 day cruise. The seas were a bit rough at times and a pilot was lost as we left one of the islands. The cruise as still fun but not like the Caribbean.

 

No loss for this cruiser.

 

 

Griswalds

[marvin]

Keep in mind it is the Pacific Ocean and it is always a crap shoot on how the seas will be. On our last cruise to Hawaii this past October on the Zandam the seas were very rough with 18 to 20 feet swells, this was our 5th cruise to Hawaii and only the 1st time we had ever encountered these conditions. We still enjoyed the experience but had to hold on to the bannisters and rails. We never noticed many empty chairs in the dining room. Marvin