Is it ok to share a beverage package?

[Captain Jake]

Since the prices they now charge reflect people already taking advantage of sharing we might as well take advantage of the package while it lasts. ;)

 

no doubt they should make both in cabin cabin buy the package

:cj

[NLH Arizona]

no doubt they should make both in cabin cabin buy the package

:cj

I'm sure, depending on how RCCL works out on this, it will be the next thing to come. Unfortunately, it will only hurt those that were honest enough not to share.

[1 HappyCruiser]

no doubt they should make both in cabin cabin buy the package

:cj

 

If they did that the price would no doubt be cheaper per person.

[Captain Jake]

I'm sure, depending on how RCCL works out on this, it will be the next thing to come. Unfortunately, it will only hurt those that were honest enough not to share.

True.The honest pay the price for those who are not

:cj

[Goofyisme]

Always fun watching people try to rationalize their inappropriate actions and also trying to make it appear to be the fault of the majority who follow the rules they agreed upon.

[Grumpy100]

Still say it is OK. I won't tell. I am talking about the coke card nothing else. :p

[KaththeTaff]

Still say it is OK. I won't tell. I am talking about the coke card nothing else. :p

 

When I purchased a soda package last year, they told me it was OK to share! It was part of the sales pitch on board!

[Grumpy100]

When I purchased a soda package last year, they told me it was OK to share! It was part of the sales pitch on board!

 

Really. You have made my day. I will definitely buy at least one soda card for our upcoming cruise.

[1 HappyCruiser]

When I purchased a soda package last year, they told me it was OK to share! It was part of the sales pitch on board!

 

You're just doing what a majority of the people do anyway but most just won't admit to it.:D

[CI66774]

I think it all comes down to this: if Celebrity says it's ok for me to share my drink (let them have a sip, etc), then it's OK. If not, then no - period.

[Denny01]

When I purchased a soda package last year, they told me it was OK to share! It was part of the sales pitch on board!

 

I wouldn't question the statement of a poster, but I think it is the case of some Used Car Salesman telling a buyer what they want to hear....no, its OK to share a drink package. The packages...all of them...are explicitly defined to be used by one. The Celebrity website states very clearly drink packages is for the Buyer Only. It isnt a group deal.

 

So yes, maybe some sales person on a cruise said its "OK', but we all know in reality that the packages are for the buyer....or am I mssing something in basic business, what the Celebrity website says and what it says on the documents when you buy the package on board.....yup, it it quite explict that it isnt a 'group package'.

 

Den

Edited April 4, 2012 by Denny01

[cruisestitch]

Agree-- the seller (who might have even gotten part of the gratuity for making the sale) could tell you that it's ok to share, but how would you feel the first time you try and get caught by a barman who has been given quite different instructions? "But, but, but, the guy who sold me this told me it was ok." "Oh, and who was that" "Gee, I don't remember his name" "I'll be taking your card now, sir......"

[AMAC86]

Agree-- the seller (who might have even gotten part of the gratuity for making the sale) could tell you that it's ok to share, but how would you feel the first time you try and get caught by a barman who has been given quite different instructions? "But, but, but, the guy who sold me this told me it was ok." "Oh, and who was that" "Gee, I don't remember his name" "I'll be taking your card now, sir......"

It doesn't matter--the Celebrity employee who stated that it is okay to share is a paid agent of the cruiseline. Sure, nobody will believe you if you get "caught", but there is no reason to feel guilty about it at that point. Are you stealing? You're not violating national/international laws, you are violating a written "company policy" which was just contradicted by one of its own employees.

 

If you dropped a gallon of milk you had just bought in the parking lot on the way to your car, and a grocery store employee said, "Don't worry about it, I'll fetch you another one," wouldn't you take him at his word? I might not, but I certainly wouldn't judge anyone who did.

 

And really, any rule worth having is worth being enforced. Clearly they are not putting much of a priority on enforcing the "no sharing" policy. Not saying the rule doesn't exist, but Celebrity clearly isn't taking it as seriously as many of the people on this board do.

[PartyAllDaTyme]

If I had a Celebrity crewmember tell me it's okay to share a drink package, I'd ask to get it in writing, since it contradicts the written policy. Then again, I know what the policy is. If I didn't, why would I think that there's a reason to question it?

 

Unfortunately, the bottom line is that sometimes incorrect information is given out, either inadvertently or advertently, but it's still incorrect information. Where I work, I run into customers all the time that say another agent told them something that just ain't so. Unless they can somehow verify, we can't honor what they say was said. If we did, anyone could claim anything on the grounds that "someone said so."

Edited April 4, 2012 by PartyAllDaTyme
add a few more sentences

[Ma Bell]

It doesn't matter--the Celebrity employee who stated that it is okay to share is a paid agent of the cruiseline. Sure, nobody will believe you if you get "caught", but there is no reason to feel guilty about it at that point. Are you stealing? You're not violating national/international laws, you are violating a written "company policy" which was just contradicted by one of its own employees.

 

If you dropped a gallon of milk you had just bought in the parking lot on the way to your car, and a grocery store employee said, "Don't worry about it, I'll fetch you another one," wouldn't you take him at his word? I might not, but I certainly wouldn't judge anyone who did.

 

And really, any rule worth having is worth being enforced. Clearly they are not putting much of a priority on enforcing the "no sharing" policy. Not saying the rule doesn't exist, but Celebrity clearly isn't taking it as seriously as many of the people on this board do.

 

Sure, why would anyone ever do anything because it's the right thing to do.

What a great attitude.:(

[boogs]

It doesn't matter--the Celebrity employee who stated that it is okay to share is a paid agent of the cruiseline. Sure, nobody will believe you if you get "caught", but there is no reason to feel guilty about it at that point. Are you stealing? You're not violating national/international laws, you are violating a written "company policy" which was just contradicted by one of its own employees.

 

If you dropped a gallon of milk you had just bought in the parking lot on the way to your car, and a grocery store employee said, "Don't worry about it, I'll fetch you another one," wouldn't you take him at his word? I might not, but I certainly wouldn't judge anyone who did.

 

And really, any rule worth having is worth being enforced. Clearly they are not putting much of a priority on enforcing the "no sharing" policy. Not saying the rule doesn't exist, but Celebrity clearly isn't taking it as seriously as many of the people on this board do.

 

So, taking your twisted logic one step further, if an employee of a store were to tell me it is OK to take an item of clothing I just tried on and leave without paying for it, then it's perfectly fine to do so? How about if the item is a diamond bracelet? Is it still OK? What if a new car salesman told me to take a car for a test drive, and don't bother returning it, that's OK too?

 

I've heard of twisted logic to justify stealing, but your's is one of the worst.

 

Your poor example of the dropped milk is an entirely different situation than you are trying to justify. I have dropped a grocery item after just paying for it. This would be considered an accident, not a deliberate action. The store will usually, as a good will gesture, offer to replace it free of charge. They are not giving me carte blanche to take as much as I want on my own.

 

The lack of morality I am seeing more and more often these days is frightening. I was just reading an article stating that almost 60% of students cheat and feel they aren't doing anything wrong when doing so. Some of the posters on this thread must have had the same attitude as these kids when they themselves were in school. :(

Edited April 4, 2012 by boogs

[gymjudge55]

Something it seems some are missing while crucifying this poor poster is the fact that not everyone reads cruisecritic, not everyone visits Celebrity's website and reads the rules on drink packages. Until this board I did not know they existed and would not have found them on the website. If I walked onto the ship and someone sold me a soda package and told me at that point that it was sharable, why would I think it wasn't?

 

Now, knowing it's not and then sharing, that's a different case. But don't question the morals of someone who was told by an employee it was fine and had no prior knowledge it wasn't.

[ETski]

Just my thoughts and opinions. When sailing on Celebrity my husband always does the premium drink package. We book it prior to the cruise and is already paid for months before we travel. I do not take any packages. And no we do not share the package!!!!! My husband feels that for him it is well worth it. Between the speciality coffees, beer at lunch, wine at dinner, Martini bar, and a drink or two either at the show or casino is worth the price. Wow sounds like he may drink too much LOL I on the other hand will use our OBC for any speciality coffees, or a occasional drink. I mostly drink water or ice tea at lunch and dinner. Husband has always said I 'm a cheap date!!! I would hope that they would never make all the people in the cabin do the same package. Yes there will always be people cheating the system. Only other systems that might stop cheating is pre paid drink cards. But for now the packages are what they are offering. Lets not spoil it for the honest people in the world.

[Goofyisme]

This thread goes cold for a week and then the pangs of guilt force the abusers of the system to come back and once again try to justify their behaviour. It is just so funny watching these people making all these efforts to rationalize thier improper behaviour.

[CTCruiser72]

Last week on the Summit when my wife ordered her Malibu and Coke (to charge to the room) I had more than one bartender give back my wife's card and grab mine because I had the Premium Alc and she had the Premium Non-Alc. It's not like I sat there with puppy dog eyes hoping for a freebie, they did it on their own. I thought of these type threads for about 2secs before I got over it. I think it happened 2-3x.

[caladezi]

Last week on the Summit when my wife ordered her Malibu and Coke (to charge to the room) I had more than one bartender give back my wife's card and grab mine because I had the Premium Alc and she had the Premium Non-Alc. It's not like I sat there with puppy dog eyes hoping for a freebie, they did it on their own. I thought of these type threads for about 2secs before I got over it. I think it happened 2-3x.

 

How much of an "extra" tip did you leave him. I hope that it was enough to make it worth his while to risk loosing his job because if he were caught doing that he would be serving chum on a fishing boat. Personally, if I saw that happen I would have no reservations about noting his name and reporting him.

[Leo Jay]

To my mind, the moral decision is based largely on whether the initiator of the policy (X's Corporate Offices) would perceive the action to be within their specific intentions and revenue expectations.

 

To me, it is not at all reasonable to believe that X intended to forbid a purchaser of the package from allowing a friend or family member from consuming a portion of a covered drink.

 

It seems reasonable to me to assume that X made the specific decision to state as policy that "packages" may not be shared, and that they specifically rejected as unreasonable (and/or unrealistic) the notion that "drinks" may not be shared. It simply cannot be that the distinction never occurred to them.

 

:)

Edited April 4, 2012 by Leo Jay

[AMAC86]

How much of an "extra" tip did you leave him. I hope that it was enough to make it worth his while to risk loosing his job because if he were caught doing that he would be serving chum on a fishing boat. Personally, if I saw that happen I would have no reservations about noting his name and reporting him.

It's funny how you would reward an act of kindness by trying to get him fired.:confused:

 

I might as well cancel my reservation not to have to get stuck on a boat with people like this.

[Leo Jay]

It's funny how you would reward an act of kindness by trying to get him fired.:confused:

 

I might as well cancel my reservation not to have to get stuck on a boat with people like this.

 

Not to mention having implied that the passenger bribed the bartender to do so, when the post made it beyond clear that the bartender did this of his/her own initiative!

 

How many times do I have to remind myself that the cruiseboards give a vastly skewed perception of just how elitist, judgmental, self-righteous and downright insufferable the cruising public at large is...

 

:D

[Can'tstopcruising]

Something it seems some are missing while crucifying this poor poster is the fact that not everyone reads cruisecritic, not everyone visits Celebrity's website and reads the rules on drink packages. Until this board I did not know they existed and would not have found them on the website. If I walked onto the ship and someone sold me a soda package and told me at that point that it was sharable, why would I think it wasn't?

 

Now, knowing it's not and then sharing, that's a different case. But don't question the morals of someone who was told by an employee it was fine and had no prior knowledge it wasn't.

 

I was thinking the same thing. The information I glean on this website! And I don't even buy a drink's package!!!

 

However, most pax do not know about (or at any rate, read) Cruise Critic, and most do not read the literature. Especially, if they book through an agent, they rely on the agent for all the info. An agent may never think it is necessary to specify "no sharing".