What the heck? Note: Electronic cigarettes are only allowed in smoking areas????

[Calgary3]

Thank you - I can read your post easily now. Whatever you did is working.

 

Betty

 

 

 

You're the second person that has mentioned this, popsec. What am I doing wrong ? In your post, my font appears larger than yours on my screen ?

 

After nearly a lifetime of PCs (I go back to the IBM junior) I got a Macbook and the learning curve is phenomenal. Discover something everyday that I didn't know about Macs.

 

I'll bump the size of the font in this post UP and tell me if that's any better. I don't understand, since my font is larger than yours in your post ? ? ?

[H82seaUgo]

I asked on John's FB page and although I haven't gotten a reply from him (he's either already left for vacation or is still pooping downstairs...), I did get a reply from the very reliable Ed K:

 

"The new full official smoking policy didn't mention "e-cigs". The short version on Carnival website's FAQ said e-cigs in smoking areas only. John has said OK to use e-cigs anyplace BUT MDR. So as it stands there is still confusion for some. But cruisers have said they are using on the Carnival ships WITHOUT a problem."

 

what is ed k.'s position with carnival?

[popsec]

OK, I'm an action sort of person so I e-mailed Carnival yesterday.

 

"What's up with the electronic cigarettes are now to be used only in the smoking areas? I cruised the Miracle in April, 2011, and vaped my personal vaporizer nearly everywhere and encountered no problems. Please use a little understanding and realize these are not cigarettes and, if we vapors still wanted to be exposed to smoke, we would still smoke. There is no smoke, smell, fire or ash with an electronic cigarette (misnamed in my opinion) and therefore not a hazard to anyone. Most persons who use personal vaporizors use the type that do not even look like a cigarette so that there would be no confusion. I'm afraid if you continue this ruling I will be forced to discontinue sailing with Carnival and recommending you to friends and family. Vaping is NOT smoking."

 

This is the reply I got today:

 

"

Thank you for contacting the Guest Care Department.

 

I am sorry to hear you are disappointed by the change in our smoking policy. I can appreciate that electronic cigarettes are a personal choice for many. This was a difficult decision to make and we knew it would be hard to please both sides of the issue. However, we believe our policy provides a good balance for both audiences.

 

Your extensive cruise history shows how much you love the sound of the ocean and the fun and relaxation a vacation at sea offers. Please take some time to think about all the wonderful times you have experienced on a Carnival cruise. Although there are certain restrictions, you really are never too far from a place where you can use your electronic cigarettes, either one deck up, three decks down, a spot is really not far away.

 

We sincerely value your loyalty to our brand and regret that you are considering not sailing with us in the future. Setting aside our smoking policy, a Carnival vacation is still a wonderful opportunity to have loads of fun and create memories that last a lifetime. And, we do this by providing our customers an unbeatable value. We hope this will be the most important factor when you consider making your vacation plans in the future.

 

I can see that you are passionate about this subject and we are equally passionate about keeping our customers. I sure hope you will reconsider as we would love to welcome you back onboard another Fun Ship again soon."

 

I received the exact (and I mean exact) same email from Carnival except mine said "cigarette", instead of electronic cigarette. It appeared they didn't even read mine before sending out the "canned" smoking response. Sure makes you feel special and like a valued customer, huh? :mad:

[AWCHIEF]

While they are not the ultimate solution to the problem e-cigs seem to me to be a good step in helping people stop or at least slow down this self-destructive behavior. If this is truly Carnival's official policy it just plain stupid. As a long time X-smoker I have no problem what so ever with being around someone using them, in fact I applaud their efforts.

[msbask]

I received the exact (and I mean exact) same email from Carnival except mine said "cigarette", instead of electronic cigarette. It appeared they didn't even read mine before sending out the "canned" smoking response. Sure makes you feel special and like a valued customer, huh? :mad:

 

Maybe everyone should stop calling them cigarettes and call them something like a "Vaping Aparatus" or "vaperette".

[popsec]

Maybe everyone should stop calling them cigarettes and call them something like a "Vaping Aparatus" or "vaperette".

 

They're also known as personal vaporizers....but it's easier for me to refer to my "e-cig". I never say smoke, tho....it's vapor....

[glrounds]

Ok so I have a question for e cigarette users.

My husband is a long time smoker and I would LOVE to get him to get off the cigs because of health risks.

So what would you all suggest is a good starter kit for e cigs. He doesn't like flavored stuff and does smoke about 2 packs a day.

I'd love to see him get some freedom from this habit!!!

Thanks in advance for your answers and cheers!!

Carole

 

You can get "juice" that duplicates the taste and aroma of cigarettes. Some even make my fellow cigar smokers want to try them.

 

If your DH smokes 2 packs a day, save time and money and go straight to a tank type vaporizer. (about the size of a cigarillo)

 

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products.html

 

Great company, can't go wrong. Website has a forum similar to CC with "vapors" that will answer ANY questions. Excellent fast service.:)

 

I buy my juice elsewhere because I like this other company (Johnson Creek, located in Wisconsin), but I'm sure I will eventually try their juices.

 

[kyrisong1]

Gary, thank you so much for your help, I'll let you know if it works out for him. Your awesome!!!

Cheers, Carole

[kyrisong1]

I should add that the Riva 510 Special Edition is actually 2 full units, so one battery is charging while the other is in use. The cost with the 20% discount is $34.39 I think. It comes with everything you need, but eventually some people move from using an atomizer and cartridge (included) to cartomizers, which is a disposable combination atomizer and cartridge.

 

There are other types, but starting with a Riva or an eGo has been very successful for beginners on the forum. Many people end up there after getting a Blu or one of the "free trial" units or a piece of junk at a mall kiosk.

 

The batteries in the kit will last about a year, but the atomizers (it comes with 2) need to be cleaned and/or replaced. They last about 4-6 weeks (sometimes longer).

Thanks so much for you're help FLA!! I've marked it in my favorites!!!

[kyrisong1]

CruisinElf, Best of Luck to you.

 

Kyrisong, careful, he's gotta want it. If anyone tried to get me off the smokes, I smoked more. My BF won't even touch my e-cig, and he's been hangin' around mine for 16 weeks. Best of luck to you as well.

Thanks littlesnit, he is willing to try it, he's addicted but he knows it's not good for you, he's an intellengent man. Thanks so much and here's to your BF finally trying yours!!!

Cheers, Carole

[FantasyLineAddict]

Thanks so much for you're help FLA!! I've marked it in my favorites!!!

 

It can be overwhelming, but check out this forum to get a better idea of how to get someone started: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/

 

My husband has been off cigarettes for 12 weeks as of yesterday after smoking for 40 years. He tried everything to quit and this worked. The 3rd day into it, he said he liked vaping better. He never liked any of the tobacco flavors - they can't really match the taste because tobacco burns - they can match the smell of something like pipe tobacco, and some people who chew tobacco will say the flavors are similar, but former smokers will admit its never the same flavor.

 

Anyway, my husband likes coffee flavors, cappuccino is his favorite. If you buy unflavored nicotine liquid, you can order sample flavors from places like capellaflavordrops.com. They are a company that started flavor drops for dieting systems like Medifast, but they have been working with the vaping community too to make sure their flavors are safe for inhalation. I wasn't comfortable with the Chinese factory-made liquids because they sometimes use dyes, etc., and they seem to have quality control issues because people complain the same thing they order is different each time.

[kyrisong1]

Thanks so much FLA, it looks like an awesome site, I've forwarded to my husband.

Thanks!! Carole

[popsec]

OK, so I escalated my questions up the chain of command at Carnival and was told that for now the policy is e-cigs only in smoking allowed areas. The fellow I spoke with suggested we write or send an email to guestsolutions@carnival.com and voice our thoughts on the matter of e-cigs being allowed only in "smoking" areas. I'm sending both an email and a written letter and hope others will do the same.

[celticd1]

OK, so I escalated my questions up the chain of command at Carnival and was told that for now the policy is e-cigs only in smoking allowed areas. The fellow I spoke with suggested we write or send an email to guestsolutions@carnival.com and voice our thoughts on the matter of e-cigs being allowed only in "smoking" areas. I'm sending both an email and a written letter and hope others will do the same.

 

Just sent an e-mail to the above address. Thanks for the info. Hoping they will get bombarded with letters and rethink the current (silly) policy. ;)

 

Thanks for posting the e-mail address!

[celticd1]

Just sent an e-mail to the above address. Thanks for the info. Hoping they will get bombarded with letters and rethink the current (silly) policy. ;)

 

Thanks for posting the e-mail address!

 

But my e-mail was bounced back...no such e-mail address??

[popsec]

guestsolutionssupport@carnival.com ....that's the correct email addy

[celticd1]

guestsolutionssupport@carnival.com ....that's the correct email addy

 

Thanks! I'll get another one off shortly.

[H82seaUgo]

guestsolutionssupport@carnival.com ....that's the correct email addy

 

worked!

[H82seaUgo]

well, here's the response i got. how can they address the issue when they clearly don't know what the issue is:

 

Hello

Thank you for contacting Carnival Cruise Lines. We appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.

We are sorry to hear you are disappointed by the change in our smoking policy. We can appreciate that smoking is a personal choice for many. This was a difficult decision to make and we knew it would be hard to please both sides of the issue. However, we believe our policy provides a good balance for both audiences.

If there is anything else we can do for you please don't hesitate to ask.

Cordially,

[celticd1]

well, here's the response i got. how can they address the issue when they clearly don't know what the issue is:

 

Hello

Thank you for contacting Carnival Cruise Lines. We appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.

We are sorry to hear you are disappointed by the change in our smoking policy. We can appreciate that smoking is a personal choice for many. This was a difficult decision to make and we knew it would be hard to please both sides of the issue. However, we believe our policy provides a good balance for both audiences.

If there is anything else we can do for you please don't hesitate to ask.

Cordially,

 

 

I should be suprised...but I'm not! LOL

 

OK, maybe we need to be creative. I won't use the word "smoke" in any way, shape or form and we'll see what happens.

[popsec]

well, here's the response i got. how can they address the issue when they clearly don't know what the issue is:

 

Hello

 

Thank you for contacting Carnival Cruise Lines. We appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.

 

We are sorry to hear you are disappointed by the change in our smoking policy. We can appreciate that smoking is a personal choice for many. This was a difficult decision to make and we knew it would be hard to please both sides of the issue. However, we believe our policy provides a good balance for both audiences.

If there is anything else we can do for you please don't hesitate to ask.

 

Cordially,

 

That's the exact same email I received when I first contacted them and that's why I called....if they don't bother reading our emails how can they respond??? I've been searching for an email for an actual VP or something at carnival but so far I only have a name and mailing address. He probably wouldn't appreciate receiving a letter to his home....

[celticd1]

Here's the response I received:

 

Thank you for contacting Carnival Cruise Lines. We appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.

 

Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback on the e-cigarettes.

 

Considering that e-cigarettes are relatively new and still being evaluated, Carnival's policy is to allow e-cigarettes in the same venues and areas where smoking is allowed. Carnival's policy on e-cigarettes is consistent with other major cruise lines.

Please let us know if we may be of further assistance. Thank you for choosing Carnival Cruise Lines.

 

Regards,

 

Mauricio Leiseca | Guest Solutions Specialist | Carnival Cruise Lines

3655 NW 87 Ave | Miami, FL 33178 | (800) 438 6744

 

 

Time to flood them with calls and e-mails. This policy is just silly. :rolleyes:

[iowagirl411]

OK. I just fired off an email. I can't post the content here as it might not make it past the moderators:D.

 

I have vaped freely on my last few cruises in every venue except the main dining room. Not once did I receive a complaint from pax, staff or crew.

 

I do plan on sailing with Carnival again because I want to experience my first Platinum cruise (even though I know it's not that big of a deal).

 

The new rule doesn't bother me nearly as much as the stupidity of it. What I think right now is that I will pretend I never saw this thread or checked on the Carnival website to verify the info and continue to vape where I please until a crew member asks me not to.

[popsec]

 

The new rule doesn't bother me nearly as much as the stupidity of it. What I think right now is that I will pretend I never saw this thread or checked on the Carnival website to verify the info and continue to vape where I please until a crew member asks me not to.

 

That's what I plan to do.......ignorance of the "new rule" will be my excuse :p

[celticd1]

OK. I just fired off an email. I can't post the content here as it might not make it past the moderators:D.

 

I have vaped freely on my last few cruises in every venue except the main dining room. Not once did I receive a complaint from pax, staff or crew.

 

I do plan on sailing with Carnival again because I want to experience my first Platinum cruise (even though I know it's not that big of a deal).

 

The new rule doesn't bother me nearly as much as the stupidity of it. What I think right now is that I will pretend I never saw this thread or checked on the Carnival website to verify the info and continue to vape where I please until a crew member asks me not to.

 

 

My fave..."It's easier to ask for forgivness than for permission". I'm guessing no one will say a word to you. :)