Amsterdam Hawaii Customs

[JamesOne]

This is just a curosity question. We are on the San Diego-Hawaii-San Diego Feb 5, 2006 cruise. To comply with the Jones Act we will drop the anchor off Ensenada, Mexico for an hour in the middle of the night.

 

Will US citizens go through customs and immigration during debarkation in San Diego?

 

James

[RuthC]

Yes, IIRC. I've done that cruise twice, and that's the way I remember it happening.

[jhannah]

Our gubbment at work! This crazy law should be repealed.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Yes, it is that stupid Jone's Act law that requires the ships to stop at a foreign port, even if it for an hour, before the ship can re-enter the United States.

[xpcdoojk]

Yes, it is that stupid Jone's Act law that requires the ships to stop at a foreign port, even if it for an hour, before the ship can re-enter the United States.

 

Yep, you will go thru customs. On our cruises, they generally have the customs agent in the dining room or other public room and they have two lines for US citizens and another for those holding foreign passports. They hardly checked us at all in my experience. We have done this twice on RCI.

 

jc

[Opinions]

Yes, it is that stupid Jone's Act law that requires the ships to stop at a foreign port, even if it for an hour, before the ship can re-enter the United States.

 

The Jone's Act applies to cargo ships not to passenger vessels...It is a entirely different law, the Passenger Vessels Service Act that regulates cruise ships.

[jhannah]

The Jone's Act applies to cargo ships not to passenger vessels...It is a entirely different law, the Passenger Vessels Service Act that regulates cruise ships.

Not so. From the Web site on Jones Act Fact and Fiction:

The Jones Act and related statutes require that vessels used to transport cargo and passengers between U.S. ports be owned by U.S. citizens, built in U.S. shipyards, and manned by U.S. citizen crews. These statutes, known as cabotage laws, are the foundation of the domestic maritime industry, the largest and most vital sector in the U.S. merchant marine and a key link in the nation's intermodal transportation network.

[dakrewser]

Not so. From the Web site on Jones Act Fact and Fiction:

The Jones Act and related statutes require that vessels used to transport cargo and passengers between U.S. ports be owned by U.S. citizens, built in U.S. shipyards, and manned by U.S. citizen crews. These statutes, known as cabotage laws, are the foundation of the domestic maritime industry, the largest and most vital sector in the U.S. merchant marine and a key link in the nation's intermodal transportation network.

 

Right, but the Jones Act itself refers only to cargo. It's those "related statutes" that bring in passenger traffic. See http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/hecon/he7-99/psa.html for a very good explanation.

[jhannah]

Thanks, Dave. Guess I shoulda' been a lawyer!

[dakrewser]

Thanks, Dave. Guess I shoulda' been a lawyer!

 

Nah, you're too nice a guy. :rolleyes: