sandy toes Posted January 18, 2013 #26 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Ladies wear their hats (dress hats or even a fascinator style head band, not a cap as in ball cap) in doors and it is proper to dine wearing them. Gentlemen may wear their hats(not caps as in ball) such as Fedora, Derby or Stetson to the table and then remove them to dine. And for the OP, I love to see ladies in hat and I have a 10 yr old DGD that loves wearing a fascinator and did so on the Captains formal night in Dec. The Captain told her she looked lovely and she was thrilled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphireMind Posted January 18, 2013 #27 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It is proper etiquette for women to wear their hats to dine and during dining. It is not for men. I believe the etiquette rule came about because women typically have longer and more intricately styled hair, and if they are wearing a hat or fascinator, then the hairstyle incorporates the hat. If the hat is removed, the hairstyle is ruined. Now, whether this is needed for current standards is certainly up for debate :) But that is the traditional reason. Just like men wear ties and jackets but women can wear a pantsuit without a tie or jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTTERSAM Posted January 18, 2013 #28 Share Posted January 18, 2013 A baseball hat is never a suitable substitute for a freshly barbered pate. Keep America beautiful...get a haircut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted January 18, 2013 #29 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Better off googling Ascot for a better example. :D I thought an ascot was a type of tie/neckwear. Now it's a woman's "hat"???:confused: Now I'm thinking of asking Johnny what these things are. You know, hats, broaches, pterodactyl,ascot,fascinator. I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy toes Posted January 18, 2013 #30 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Just FYI: A substantial fascinator is a fascinator of some size or bulk. Bigger than a barrette, modern fascinators are commonly made with feathers, flowers or beads. They need to be attached to the hair by a comb, headband or clip. The fun, fanciful ornament is often embellished with crystals, beads, or loops of ribbon, and attaches via a comb or headband; some have a small, stiff, flat base that can be secured with bobby pins. They are particularly popular at premium horse-racing events, such as the Grand National, Kentucky Derby. ETSY has a wide assortment available if someone wants to see what we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggy84 Posted January 18, 2013 #31 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I thought an ascot was a type of tie/neckwear. Now it's a woman's "hat"???:confused: Now I'm thinking of asking Johnny what these things are. You know, hats, broaches, pterodactyl,ascot,fascinator. I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.:eek: lol, Ascot is also a posh horse racing event here in England. The women usually wear some impressive fascinators there. Thought that might have been a better example of what a fascinator is! I never knew an ascot was a tie/neckwear though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery Seas Cruiser Posted January 18, 2013 #32 Share Posted January 18, 2013 and why not baseball caps then if I am a bald man??? double standards here??? Baseball caps were originally athletic attire. Although women have traditionally worn hats indoors, especially in churches, I don't think it would be proper for a woman to wear a baseball cap in a cruise ship main dining room any more than it is for a gentleman to do so. Baseball caps just aren't dressy enough. Just because an item is a type of hat, it doesn't mean that just any hat will do for a dressy situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted January 18, 2013 #33 Share Posted January 18, 2013 lol, Ascot is also a posh horse racing event here in England. The women usually wear some impressive fascinators there. Thought that might have been a better example of what a fascinator is!I never knew an ascot was a tie/neckwear though... I learned what I thought an ascot was by watching the Phantom of the Opera with Mrs E. on the Brilliance. Cruising is so educational.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamer976 Posted January 18, 2013 #34 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm assuming it was a fashion statement. Okay with me, as long as anyone with their "fashion statement" hat (women or men) don't plop down in front of me in one of the entertainment venues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 18, 2013 #35 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So – I asked this group - Is it OK for a woman to wear a fashion hat to/during dinner, presumably as part of her outfit. As long as you're not "that girl" who, in a group of girlfriends, wears the straw cowboy hat. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted January 18, 2013 #36 Share Posted January 18, 2013 As long as you're not "that girl" who, in a group of girlfriends, wears the straw cowboy hat. ;) Ok, I didn't get that one. Before I dare comment I need a translation.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidils Posted January 18, 2013 #37 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm assuming it was a fashion statement. Okay with me, as long as anyone with their "fashion statement" hat (women or mendon't plop down in front of me in one of the entertainment venues! I agree! I take my hat off that reason. Esspecially when the lights are down. Because I use the benifits of my hats to sheild me from lights that cause sezuires....long story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 18, 2013 #38 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Ok, I didn't get that one. Before I dare comment I need a translation.:confused: No problem. ;) Take notice of groups of girls, especially in the 20s age range. There's always one girl wearing a straw cowboy hat. Nothing wrong, just a funny cliche'. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted January 18, 2013 #39 Share Posted January 18, 2013 No problem. ;) Take notice of groups of girls, especially in the 20s age range. There's always one girl wearing a straw cowboy hat. Nothing wrong, just a funny cliche'. :) Ok. I guess...Mrs E. wore a straw cowboy hat. I'd post it if I could figure out how to upload it to photobucket on this stupid "smart"phone.:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidils Posted January 19, 2013 #40 Share Posted January 19, 2013 No problem. ;) Take notice of groups of girls, especially in the 20s age range. There's always one girl wearing a straw cowboy hat. Nothing wrong, just a funny cliche'. :) I understand your generalization of our young hat wearers. But just for a two cents, I'm eplileptic, and have a tough time with bright, and floresent lights. I wear a hat to safeguard myself. I bring a small cap in the theater to replace my hat, yet gaurd my eyes. My husband had to escort me out one night because they had flashing lights. He thought I was going to pass out before I thought I was. We got back just in time. As much as I do love hats in general, sometimes there is need for things we don't see. Just an FYI PS For over two weeks now I have a herniated disc, and had to use a scooter in the grocery store. Something that I may not have been so kind about in times past. Live and learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysavannah Posted January 19, 2013 #41 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I love the modern fascionators! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 19, 2013 #42 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ok. I guess...Mrs E. wore a straw cowboy hat. I'd post it if I could figure out how to upload it to photobucket on this stupid "smart"phone.:o Yea, sorry, certainly no disrespect to her. You know me better than that, right? :o It's more of a Spring Break thing. Imagine where I live, and imagine groups of drunken gals acting a fool, as is normal down here. See my picture now? It's actually sorta a joke around here. The one gal in the cowboy hat has become the cliche' for the whole partying group. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted January 19, 2013 #43 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Yea, sorry, certainly no disrespect to her. You know me better than that, right? :o It's more of a Spring Break thing. Imagine where I live, and imagine groups of drunken gals acting a fool, as is normal down here. See my picture now? It's actually sorta a joke around here. The one gal in the cowboy hat has become the cliche' for the whole partying group. ;) I'm ok with it. I knew why Mrs E. wore the hats. Others didn't know why she did. I didn't know why she thought she needed to, but I accepted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidils Posted January 19, 2013 #44 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I'm ok with it. I knew why Mrs E. wore the hats. Others didn't know why she did. I didn't know why she thought she needed to, but I accepted it. And you don't need to say why...she is fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted January 19, 2013 #45 Share Posted January 19, 2013 And you don't need to say why...she is fine! But sometimes there were fashion/manners stallions that she turned into geldings rest her soul.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicfairy Posted January 19, 2013 #46 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Just one of our weird, completely logic-free cultural things. Women in hats at dinner - stylish, sophisticated. Men in hats at dinner - uncouth pigs who don't know any better.:rolleyes: Another one that comes to mind - women can be in a skimpy dress with knees, shoulders and arms bare to the world and be considered "formal". For men, to be "formal" they must be completely covered, and in a coat no less! NOPE! Formal for a woman is NOT a short dress! No matter how pretty it is it is not formal. A cocktail dress is Semi formal a full length gown is Formal. Just saying that is the way it is . Now plenty of people will argue the point just as many will say but it is too heavy to pack or I don't want to wear it ....it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidils Posted January 19, 2013 #47 Share Posted January 19, 2013 But sometimes there were fashion/manners stallions that she turned into geldings rest her soul.:eek: Good for her! Kindred spirit of mine! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retird Posted January 19, 2013 #48 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I was speaking of women and yes you are right, it seems there is a double standard I suppose, yet baseball caps are casual where as womens dress hats would be more akin to a mans dress hat, which he would generally remove once in public. I know those days are gone. It's a discussion, I'll still like you in your baseball cap. I agree with you 100%. I was just being the devils advocate:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted January 19, 2013 #49 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Drat. Guess I'm returning my new hat intended for my first formal night on my next cruise. grumble grumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidils Posted January 19, 2013 #50 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Drat. Guess I'm returning my new hat intended for my first formal night on my next cruise. grumble grumble Awe come on Elton! Turn some heads....:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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