Fire on Carnival Triumph. No engines, running on emergency generators.

[63Corvette]

I clicked on this thread to see what the latest status was of the ship and passengers/crew. Now I can't quit reading the updates......it is very entertaining. The drama is amazing: Food hoarding, solar panels, passports, Coast Guard boarding, sewage running down the walls, ship drifting, etc.... I am sure when the ship is safely at port, the news media will find the most outrageous interview to broadcast over the air.

 

This is a bad event, and a lot of people are miserable. It will be good to get everyone home, and back to normal.

 

In the mean time, I will continue to read this thread.....it just doesn't get much better than this.

[ducklite]

Spoke to my pvp about my april sailing on triumph and he said there making repairs to the engine during the two back to mobile and once in port cleaning and additional repairs will be done. Assured me shed be ready to sail in april w a new engine..... Just sharing the info i was told

 

I really, really hope you don't believe that there will be a new engine installed in the ship in three months time. A "new engine"? Laughable. Just to get a new engine built and delivered would take more than three months. It's not like they've got them sitting on a shelf. Heck, it can take six weeks to get a new Cummins ISM, and they build thousands of them a year, right in the USA.

[bamelin]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/travel/cruise-ship-fire/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

 

Sewage in hallways and running down the walls, people vomiting. Who was it that said a day on any cruise ship is better than a day at work, even this ship?

 

geez. after watching that video id def want in on a class action. The part about the food is especially disgusting.

[ducklite]

Probably the 175 bucks....lol

 

$135 for the first passport, $110 every 10 years for subsequent renewals.

[seavoyager6]

Sadly this thread has degenerated completely from the informative intent originally to thousands of speculations..harebrained schemes of armchair captains ( put everyone on the lifeboats!!!) massive discussions about toilets, bully pulpits for Carnival haters to blame them for everything up to and including 2008 financial crisis, a forum to put down Americans re: lack of passports, speculations about norovirus and other diseases up to and including the Black Plague from armchair physicians, repeating and rehashing one sensation arousing unsubstantiated "report" about savages at least 30 times and, oh yes, more toilet talk.

 

I agree with a prior poster that this thread should have been closed hours ago

[jimbo5544]

I really, really hope you don't believe that there will be a new engine installed in the ship in three months time. A "new engine"? Laughable..

Happened on the Splendor...BTW it was generators.

[boo214]

Modern technology, which is used every day on the bridges of all major cruise ships, would have indicated that they ship would drift with the wave currents and wind.

 

Yet Carnival persisted in the Progreso story for PR purposes, knowing all along that they wanted to tow the ship to Alabama to save money.

 

Bottom line, yes, they will save money, but it is at the peril and discomfort of those onboard!

and this is so wrong! imagine all the good pr they could get by towing to the closest possible port and getting everyone off. then they could say the heck with how much it cost us we got them off as quickly as possible because we truly put safety first. now they are going to take an even bigger hit than they have to.

[petro772]

i must admit reading this thread this morning has been way more fun than watching my early morning news. i've learned all about tugboats, the coast guard, maritime law, passports and passport cards, electrical circuitry, and way more about the elimination habits of humans than i care to know. i've also learned about how human waste will eventually lead to the sinking of the ship, that passenger convenience should dictate the tugging of a ship against wind and current direction, that food police are necessary to control the savage instincts of human beings, that sheets and blankets draped over chairs to provide some privacy for people sleeping on deck are tents, and that a passenger's husband is getting his 15 minutes of fame by taking advantage of the misery of 4000 passengers.

 

i've also learned that thousands of people are predicted never to cruise carnival again as they are trying to find ways to re-book for their cancelled cruises. i've learned that some people are more concerned about if people on the ship are getting more days towards their platinum status (heaven forbid that someone is getting something for free). i've learned that solar panels should be on every ship even though their use in the regular world has proven to be to inconvenient, heavy, expensive, and rarely worth the effort.

 

i've learned that an incident on one ship proves that all ships owned by a company are suspect and should not be allowed to sail, that those sailing without passports deserve their fate and should have their debarkation slowed for the benefit of those that actually paid for a passport. i've learned that the cruiseline is holding their passengers hostage, gee just throw them all into rafts and lifeboats and have them paddle their way to land.

 

oh, and the best, gossip rags information repeated a gazillion times by other blogs posing as legitimate news sources carries much more weight than press releases posted on legitimate sites. and now i'm off to have breakfast with my gorgeous french model i met online.

Should be placed as post number 1 (sorry, OP), to save everyone some time. Besides, laughter is the best medicine there is. :p

[ducklite]

for those claiming that carnival has no crisis management in place for debarkation, how the hell do you know? and for those sitting at home in their nice comfy chairs, what earthly good would it do to know exactly what is planned. no way is carnival going to leave your family members stranded once the boat is pushed into the dock. i am sure a team of people are working round the clock to get people HOME. and 3000+ passengers needing assistance isn't the same as a few hundred after an air disaster. and all those whining at home and wanting information and inundating carnival with phone calls are just using up valuable resources that could be better spent making arrangements to get the passengers, you know the ones who have actually experienced these horrific few days, the help and assistance they need.

 

No one claimed they weren't going to have them in place, but rather that they haven't been at all forthcoming with their plans, leaving many to wonder if they even have a plan. With the exception of one or two short and extremely sanitized press releases there has been no one in senior management who has stepped forward to make any sort of public statement as to what they are doing for people and how they plan on assisting them moving forward.

 

If I were a stock holder, I'd have grave concerns over the effectiveness of their crisis management team.

[ruskatab]

I agree Carnival should of immediately had the ship repaired when it was having mechanical problems. Carnival should also have an emergency plan in place for these type of incidents. They should have teams ready to go and supplies in place to get to the passengers. The few rations the other 2 ships shared were obviously not enough to feed 4000 people. Carnival is also not the only cruiseline to fail in emergency situations but they do seem to compensate for this better than any other line. What will be interesting is to hear all the different accounts from the passengers when they get back. Just like the Spendour incident, the stories varied greatly from it was the most horrible experience of my life to it wasnt that bad and we still had fun.

[RazorbackBelle08]

 

As I said, to think that the world ends at the borders of this country is provincial at best.

 

Nobody said this. And calling people "provincial" is a little elitist, don't you think? I've traveled the world but a lot of people don't have the luxury or means to do so; this is a lot of the reason why cruises are so popular-- as cost-effective way to see the world. But if people choose to explore the wealth of opportunities for leisure, excitement, history and enjoyment within the US' borders, they shouldn't be dogged for it or called "provincial."

 

Just my .02

 

This thread has gotten really ugly, and I think it reflects badly on the CC community as a whole, given that it's a top ten in the google searches for the Triumph fire and everyone and their mom is reading this, with major news agencies citing it. I think some people need to chill out, for real. I posted that earlier, but for some reason my post got deleted while a large part of the vitriol being spewed here has been allowed to continue.

 

Everybody needs to take a step back. This is an ugly situation for everyone involved, but it IS an accident, and accidents happen. Now what needs to be focused on is not where everyone is taking a poo, but rather crisis management and future prevention of an atrocity like this. I really feel for the people stuck on this ship.

[fairweather]

My heart goes out to these people. They must feel like they are on Survivor without a way off the island.

 

Can't understand why they didn't transfer those with medical conditions and small children to the other Carnival ship that brought food and water. Doesn't sound like conditions on board are too sanitary.

 

I suppose this has been answered already but isn't this the second Carnival ship that has been towed into port after engine troubles? Wasn't there another one on the Mexican Riviera that had similar problems? If so, the Coast Guard needs to look into the maintenance on these ships if they are going to cruise from American ports.

 

Hope this ship gets to port sooner rather than later. I guess management thought it would be easier to get all these people back home from Mobile rather than towing them into Progresso? What a nightmare for everyone involved including the poor crew.

[ducklite]

Remember, this occured after the ship left Cozumel. Anyone who has been to Cozumel knows level of inebriation on the ship is a little higher than usual.

 

I was there in Cozumel with Triumph on Saturday and I saw the hoards of drunken people, adorned in Carlos and Charlies balloon hats, carrying their plastic yards, some of who were being escorted to the ship by pier security. Come Sunday morning without working toilets, I can only imagine had bad these people felt.

 

Oh God, I can't imagine.

[RuthlessBoss]

Modern technology, which is used every day on the bridges of all major cruise ships, would have indicated that they ship would drift with the wave currents and wind.

 

Yet Carnival persisted in the Progreso story for PR purposes, knowing all along that they wanted to tow the ship to Alabama to save money.

 

Bottom line, yes, they will save money, but it is at the peril and discomfort of those onboard!

Not quite sure why you say going to Alabama causes peril and discomfort:confused: Alabama was closer, Alabama has facilities for cruiseship repair. The bonus is they are coming back to American soil, not Mexican soil then putting the passengers in waiting mode to debark, bussed to an airport to wait to board a plane to who knows where.

[klingoncruiser]

I watched a CNN report this morning that was high comedy. The reporter looked soooooo stern and worried. Yeah right.... the sharks in the media are having a field day with this. Just wait until the ship hits shore, they will be all over the place.

 

Prayers for pax stuck on board trying to make the best of a tough situation as well as the crew trying to ease the pain. The crew deserves something extra for what they must be going through.

[wmowan8485]

Very entertaining thread!!

[djwood24]

sorry but these folks that are talking to the media....probably just setting up the lawsuit....funny how one passenger said they are fine and enjoying the extended vacation...and then the other thinks they are going to die....

 

Look it is a bad situation....we can all agree on this...but really the media has become the biggest joke....anything to blow the story up....CCL better take care of these folks when they get to shore...and I mean take care of these folks

[MrPete]

Why is everyone so hung up on passports?

 

I can only guess those wasting their money on them they they are still not needed are mad they are out that money.

 

And actually think that no ticky no shirty applies here.

 

All this concern, yet all these passengers will be taken care of, regardless where they land.

[cruiseflyer38]

Spoke to my pvp about my april sailing on triumph and he said there making repairs to the engine during the two back to mobile and once in port cleaning and additional repairs will be done. Assured me shed be ready to sail in april w a new engine..... Just sharing the info i was told

Good luck to anyone who will get on this ship, you may need it.

[ducklite]

Happened on the Splendor...BTW it was generators.

 

On a planned refurbishment where long lead time items could be ordered months in advance. Big difference.

[Kamloops50]

This morning they announced that it will be towed to Galveston.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

Nobody said this. And calling people "provincial" is a little elitist, don't you think? I've traveled the world but a lot of people don't have the luxury or means to do so; this is a lot of the reason why cruises are so popular-- as cost-effective way to see the world. But if people choose to explore the wealth of opportunities for leisure, excitement, history and enjoyment within the US' borders, they shouldn't be dogged for it or called "provincial."

 

Just my .02

 

I have been on the receiving end of the "elitist" tag on these boards more than once. I have used words/thoughts which in retrospect I probably should have avoided. It's a difficult task to relay one's opinion and to not step on any toes. Certainly the word "provincial" can fall into that category, IMO.

 

It's a minefield out there... I should know (as should anyone who posts on here with some frequency)!

 

Tom

[hott_michelle2001]

I really, really hope you don't believe that there will be a new engine installed in the ship in three months time. A "new engine"? Laughable. Just to get a new engine built and delivered would take more than three months. It's not like they've got them sitting on a shelf. Heck, it can take six weeks to get a new Cummins ISM, and they build thousands of them a year, right in the USA.

 

As i said before, just sharing the info i received from carnival...

[Jeano222]

I wonder why Carnival has not cancelled another ship's voyage and go to the Triumph and transfer the passengers to it and get those poor passengers home. There is a precedent with Titanic/Carpathia. There would have been better press towards Carnival if they would have done that.

[laxlove6]

I can only guess those wasting their money on them they they are still not needed are mad they are out that money.

 

And actually think that no ticky no shirty applies here.

 

All this concern, yet all these passengers will be taken care of, regardless where they land.

 

900 people on the ship don't have them and that is part of the reason that they are not disembarking in mexico. Adding more days on the ship.