Dress Code--more questions (oh no!)

[CHK]

My husband and I will be taking the QM2 from Southampton to New York City in May 2014 after a 60 day trip though Asia. We do not plan to pack any formal or even semi-formal attire and don't mind dining every night in the King's Court wearing slacks and short sleeve polo shirts. However, from reading Cunard's new guidelines, it appears that hubby may need to have a jacket even to eat there. Is this correct? What about the adjacent lounges after 6 PM?

 

As to why we are taking the QM2 when we don't plan on dressing up: we're taking her primarily as a mode of transportation back to the U.S. (plus it will give us a chance to relax after our very port intensive Asia trip) If there were other cruise options, we would take them but, alas, no other ships are going westbound at this time of year.

 

We usually retire to our cabin by 7 PM, but it would be nice to have a drink and dinner before then.

 

Thanks--Carolyn

[Ray66]

He won't need a jacket in the buffet part of the Kings Court. But he will need one in the Alternate Dining area.

[pmb1]

... My husband and I will be taking the QM2 from Southampton to New York City in May 2014 after a 60 day trip though Asia. We do not plan to pack any formal or even semi-formal attire ...

As to why we are taking the QM2 when we don't plan on dressing up: we're taking her primarily as a mode of transportation back to the U.S. (plus it will give us a chance to relax after our very port intensive Asia trip) ...

Hey, Carolyn, a westbound crossing on QM2 to New York is the most relaxing way to go. But why not relax in style? You have almost a year to buy each other some good looking, comfortable, duds and to stash them in Southampton for your crossing. Don't you deserve it after Asia?

[tartegnin]

you could also do room service in the evening and eat in your pjs :)

 

I have it on reliable information, however, that there is a very good shopping center right near the port with, among others, a John Lewis and a Marks & Spencer. Why not just pick up a few nice pieces right before boarding? Maybe you don't want to do the black tie evenings, but a sports jacket for DH and, for example, a silk top and trousers for you would work pretty much for any non-formal evening and, I'm sure you'll have picked up some lovely scarves and jewelry on your trip through Asia to dress it all up.

 

Anyway you do it, though, enjoy!

[CHK]

Thank you so much for all of your replies! You have given us such great ideas and I appreciate them all.

 

Thanks again--Carolyn

[SydneyD'Augstralia]

Hello!

 

I am going on my first Cunard cruise and have all the proper clothing!

 

In our group is a Syrian couple and she is veiled. She wears a burka most of the time.... it it appropriate for formal wear? Have any of you seen burkas onboard?

 

Thanks.

[capnpugwash]

Hello!

 

I am going on my first Cunard cruise and have all the proper clothing!

 

In our group is a Syrian couple and she is veiled. She wears a burka most of the time.... it it appropriate for formal wear? Have any of you seen burkas onboard?

 

Thanks.

 

Personally, I haven't.

[candle in the wind]

Hello!

 

I am going on my first Cunard cruise and have all the proper clothing!

 

In our group is a Syrian couple and she is veiled. She wears a burka most of the time.... it it appropriate for formal wear? Have any of you seen burkas onboard?

 

Thanks.

 

I am sure a burka will be fine as formalwear, but the full face coverage and grill over the eyes is very restricting, but I have seen ladies eat with this covering in public.

[pmb1]

... She wears a burka most of the time.... it it appropriate for formal wear? Have any of you seen burkas onboard?

 

Thanks.

Never seen one on QM2; but, since "national dress" is fine for formal nights, I can't imagine any official objection to "religious dress". For what it's worth, it wouldn't bother me at all.

[Jimsgirl]

Have never seen a burka on board, not sure that the full burka would be allowed (I mean where the whole person is covered and you cannot tell if it is female or a male in hiding.)

 

She could not eat in public at all wearing the full burka, and it will be a great pity if she has to take all her meals in the cabin.

 

Will a full burka not be a security problem? Even though I am really old, I have been screened , patted down numerous times. I am not sure that she would be allowed to disembark in the USA wearing full burka.

 

BTW Burkas are not religious dress. Burkas are not mentioned in the Koran, they are purely worn by choice.

Used by the Taliban (and many husbands) as a form of control, her husband could if he wished allow her to simply "be modest in her dress " (as is mentioned in the Koran) , she could cover most of herself, leaving her face uncovered

 

I lived for 2 years in a Moslem country, and know that many devout Muslim women who are doctors, teachers, nurses , etc. do not wear a burka.

[ToadOfToadHall]

wearing slacks

 

Slacks ? Have I be transported to 1976 ? :)

[Pushka]

Are nuns habits and priests clothing mentioned in the bible? I doubt it but could be wrong. If not then would you expect a nun or priest to remove their attire as it isn't a National dress?

[glojo]

Are nuns habits and priests clothing mentioned in the bible? I doubt it but could be wrong. If not then would you expect a nun or priest to remove their attire as it isn't a National dress?

I think I know what you mean but your post did make me giggle

[capnpugwash]

Are nuns habits and priests clothing mentioned in the bible? I doubt it but could be wrong. If not then would you expect a nun or priest to remove their attire as it isn't a National dress?

 

I'm more concerned with the priest's habits!!! :eek::eek:

[balf]

Are nuns habits and priests clothing mentioned in the bible? I doubt it but could be wrong. If not then would you expect a nun or priest to remove their attire as it isn't a National dress?

 

National dress is not mentioned in the Cunard "code"

 

The distaff side though has a lot of leeway on formal attire, but though it would make for a great talking point in the MD I don't think it likely to happen, unless the lady is seated on a table of friends.

 

David.

[capnpugwash]

I once saw a lady wearing a burger but that was after an unfortunate collision with a fellow passenger at lunchtime in King's Court. :)

[Pushka]

I think I know what you mean but your post did make me giggle

 

Goodness. I've just re read my post. Now I have visions of naked nuns and priests. Where are the fashion police when you need them!

[pmb1]

National dress is not mentioned in the Cunard "code" ...

David.

From ask.cunard.com:

 

Can I wear National Dress on a formal evening?

 

Yes, this is fine, however please note that if wearing accessories such as ceremonial knives, then these must be imitation items.

[glojo]

From ask.cunard.com:

 

Can I wear National Dress on a formal evening?

 

Yes, this is fine, however please note that if wearing accessories such as ceremonial knives, then these must be imitation items.

Religion and politics are usually a recipe for disaster but going back to the original post, whilst I accept some sections of society might insist on their women wearing this attire, can it in anyway be described as a 'National Dress'?

 

I have no opinion either way and providing it complies with the formal dress code for formal nights, informal codes for other nights and they want to dine with beer swilling, alcoholic infidels :eek::eek:;) then go for it.

[Whitemarsh]

Goodness. I've just re read my post. Now I have visions of naked nuns and priests. Where are the fashion police when you need them!

 

Trying to decide who wore it best. :D

[Jimsgirl]

Are nuns habits and priests clothing mentioned in the bible? I doubt it but could be wrong. If not then would you expect a nun or priest to remove their attire as it isn't a National dress?

 

 

 

No nun or priest that I have known goes around looking as though they are a walking bell tent bell tent. They do not hide their faces , hands or feet.

 

The burka is not a National dress, nor is it a religious dress, it is nothing more than a visible symbol of male control over females, whether those males be Taliban, husband, father or brother.

 

Devout Muslim women who are teachers, doctors, nurses perform their duties by dressing modestly, covering their hair, and wearing long sleeved full length garments,

they do not wear the burka because it has absolutely no meaning other than the control mentioned above.

 

If the person mentioned in the original thread, wears the full burka, she could not eat or drink in public because it is literally a "bell tent", a one piece garment from head to foot.

There are no openings for hands!

 

It is of course the ideal garment for hiding an explosive device. Call me paranoid if you wish, but given the security that is supposed to exist on Cunard, I do not think they could allow a full burka to be worn when embarking, and doubt if USA immigration would allow it when disembarking.

 

I think there would be a few passengers who would be "unhappy" about this also.

[Pushka]

From ask.cunard.com:

 

Can I wear National Dress on a formal evening?

 

Yes, this is fine, however please note that if wearing accessories such as ceremonial knives, then these must be imitation items.

 

Thank you. I knew I'd seen it somewhere.

 

Goodness Whitemarsh, you didn't fail me with that picture. Rather confronting.

 

Well, let's just hope that women who wear the burqa don't want to cruise. Because I can see quite a few issues.

[EmJakeBubbie]

I can think of many reasons why a burka-wearing whatever wouldn't/shouldn't want to cruise. I once saw what-looked-liked a Menonite-styled lady and folks couldn't help but stare and she surely was the odd-lady-out. Wondered how a cruise got on her vacation must-do, because cruises are not necessarily where modesty rules. Honestly, I'm with Jimsgirl on the imho. How could anyone w/o a face clear the Security portion of embarkation???

Bigger question: WHY would somebody so controlled so to have to wear (ok, maybe want to wear) a burka take a cruise.

 

never heard of such a thing and second what Pushka wrote!

 

y'know, on a plane, if enough people complain prior to take off, pax can be escorted off - wonder if that works on a cruise ship?

[Scrapnana]

Does Cunard not take your picture at check-in?

[Ray66]

Does Cunard not take your picture at check-in?

 

Yes, and that photo appears on the screen when they swipe your card when leaving and boarding the ship at each port.