Norwegian $250 off coupon

[hpecorari]

Thats it ?? After all this ??? :eek:

 

What price ?? I feel empty , unsatisfied ,,,,, cheap.

 

Buzz kill..:D

 

Bet they won't say! LOL

 

Harriet

[kylenyc]

The future cruise reward entitles the bearer to $250 credit toward a cruise plain and simple. It has a value of $250 not $150.

 

If you go buy a $20 gift card using a credit card that offers a 5% cash back reward, the gift card is still worth $20. The $20 gift card doesn't suddenly become worth $19 just because you get $1 cash back. It still has a value of $20 to whomever you sell/transfer/give it to. Whether a stranger is willing to risk paying you full face value for it is a different story.

Edited November 12, 2013 by kylenyc

[Big Chippy]

Original purchaser pays $250 gets $100 on board credit (which as we all know is the main incentive for purchasing) net cost $150. To me a fair price is $200 both buyer and seller gain $50 on the transaction, simple. :)

[Out to sea!]

I would think that only the expiration date would matter. The certificate gives the bearer $250 towards the deposit on the cruise, and with the exception of some suites serves as the entire deposit required. Paying less than the $250 value is simply taking advantage of the seller.

 

Pretty much like anyone who buys anything used or trades something in.

[Out to sea!]

But there IS an advantage. Advantage #1 - They have a value of $250 which they will not lose. Advatage #2 - With the exception of a small number of suites, they serve as the FULL DEPOSIT for most bookings. If this was not an advantage, then the "half off deposit sales" would be meaningless.

 

You better talk with an accountant before your next cruise and have them explain why forced spending (which is what a non-refundable OBC is) is NOT a financial advantage to you. If it was, NCL would go broke just giving away $100 bucks all the time. Aside from your obvious error, buying all of the certificates you propose would FORCE you to have to spend $1200 onboard (and you wouldn't be leaving with $1200 in value afterward).

 

 

The design of the program is to make you think you're ahead...the financial reality of the program is for the business to be ahead.

 

Can't the OBC be used to pay your tips or bar tab? Not many people out there that have less than a $100 final bill so it's hardly considered "forced buying".

[Demonyte]

Can't the OBC be used to pay your tips or bar tab? Not many people out there that have less than a $100 final bill so it's hardly considered "forced buying".

 

As said before, the OBC will be automatically spent immediately after the FCR purchase is billed. There is no extra OBC to be used and $150 remain unpaid from the FCR purchase.

[SeaShark]

As said before, the OBC will be automatically spent immediately after the FCR purchase is billed. There is no extra OBC to be used and $150 remain unpaid from the FCR purchase.

 

While that may seem to work, it really does not. Like many others, you are making the mistake of subtracting one asset ($100 OBC) from another asset ($250 Cruise Reward) and thinking the cost is somehow $150.

 

The simplest way to disprove this notion is to go directly to the perceived end valuation. Next time you are on a ship, tell them you would like a Cruise Reward, but you're only going to give them $150 for it. Tell them you do not want the $100 OBC and therefore they should accept your offer because it is the same thing. See if they'll go for it.

 

Seriously, IF the $150 valuation model was true, then why not simply sell the $250 Cruise Reward for $150 and just forget the OBC!? It would make accounting for things soooooooo much easier.

[Demonyte]

While that may seem to work, it really does not. Like many others, you are making the mistake of subtracting one asset ($100 OBC) from another asset ($250 Cruise Reward) and thinking the cost is somehow $150.

 

The simplest way to disprove this notion is to go directly to the perceived end valuation. Next time you are on a ship, tell them you would like a Cruise Reward, but you're only going to give them $150 for it. Tell them you do not want the $100 OBC and therefore they should accept your offer because it is the same thing. See if they'll go for it.

 

Seriously, IF the $150 valuation model was true, then why not simply sell the $250 Cruise Reward for $150 and just forget the OBC!? It would make accounting for things soooooooo much easier.

 

They don't need to willingly "go for it" because that's how the system works, here are two examples:

 

1. If one has prepaid DSC, buys one FCR and nothing else during the whole cruise, their bill will be $150 at the end of the cruise.

 

2. If one has prepaid DSC, has $150 (any kind of) OBC and then buys one FCR and nothing else during the whole cruise, their bill will be $0 at the end of the cruise.

 

Why they do it the way they do is simple sales psychology: they already have gotten the passenger to commit spending $250 for the FCR. If they manage to get the passenger to believe that now they have "free" $100 to spend onboard, the customer will in most cases spend another $100 onboard on top of what they'd normally spend - hence lowering the actual cost of NCL getting the returning customer I referred to in an earlier post.

 

It seems that this discussion isn't going to end anytime soon so I'm willing to agree to disagree with this and just stop soon. :D

Edited November 12, 2013 by Demonyte

[mpk218]

Im cruising soon . Who would like me to pick them up an FCC ?

I'll only charge $250 each . Let me know. ;) Makes a great gift ..

 

I'll be more than happy ..

[mpk218]

Anybody ??

 

chirp chirp chirp chirp .... hhhmmmm

[Out to sea!]

As said before, the OBC will be automatically spent immediately after the FCR purchase is billed. There is no extra OBC to be used and $150 remain unpaid from the FCR purchase.

 

I don't know about "automatically spent". A lot would depend on whether someone had prepaid their tips and how much they spend on board.

[Out to sea!]

Anybody ??

 

chirp chirp chirp chirp .... hhhmmmm

 

Thanks but I'll be getting my own in less than 2 weeks.

[Demonyte]

I don't know about "automatically spent". A lot would depend on whether someone had prepaid their tips and how much they spend on board.

 

FCR (like most other purchases onboard) can be paid with non-refundable OBC, daily service charge can not, so having prepaid or not doesn't make any difference with the actual price of FCR.

Edited November 12, 2013 by Demonyte

[Out to sea!]

FCR (like most other purchases onboard) can be paid with non-refundable OBC, daily service charge can not, so having prepaid or not doesn't make any difference with the actual price of FCR.

 

That's a difference I was not expecting. So you're saying when you purchase an FCR, it goes on your S&S bill? On Carnival (before they got rid of the program), you had to pay for the FCR with your credit card directly, it did not go on your S&S bill.

[Demonyte]

That's a difference I was not expecting. So you're saying when you purchase an FCR, it goes on your S&S bill? On Carnival (before they got rid of the program), you had to pay for the FCR with your credit card directly, it did not go on your S&S bill.

 

Yes, as I explained on post #33, the charge will to to the onboard account just as the "free" $100 OBC.

[Out to sea!]

[quote name='Demonyte']Yes, as I explained on post #33, the charge will to to the onboard account just as the "free" $100 OBC.[/QUOTE]

Then the nice thing is your'e only shelling out $150 for the FCR. Cool.

[SteveH2508]

[quote name='Out to sea!']Then the nice thing is your'e only shelling out $150 for the FCR. Cool.[/quote]

Correct!

Everyone is overthinking this. The "$100 OBC" is marketing BS. You are charged $250 to your account and immediately credited $100 so the net effect is to charge your account with $150 for a $250 future cruise reward (or whatever they call it now).

The only 'plus' might be to use up $250 of non-refundable OBC (though how people have difficulty spending OBC is completely beyond me!):D

[peg013]

[quote name='SteveH2508']Correct!

Everyone is overthinking this. The "$100 OBC" is marketing BS. You are charged $250 to your account and immediately credited $100 so the net effect is to charge your account with $150 for a $250 future cruise reward (or whatever they call it now).

The only 'plus' might be to use up [B]$250 of non-refundable OBC [/B](though how people have difficulty spending OBC is completely beyond me!):D[/QUOTE]

But you would only be using $150 of the non-refundable OBC to purchase it so add another $50 to the $250 and buy 2!

[DGP1111]

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