Nothin' But Sun Posted July 19, 2005 #1 Share Posted July 19, 2005 may happen. Looks like there will be a 30 day waiting period and them they may strike. Hope it's all over before Dec. Sounds like the airline is not budging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20832 Posted July 19, 2005 #2 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Most people who live in Minnesota (where Northwest is located) are hoping they file for chapter 7. It is the most expensive airport to fly in and out of because NW has a monopoly on the airport and they threaten to sue the state everytime a new airline wants to fly into Minneapolis. Everytime I look for airfare, Northwest is almost always twice the price as competitors so unless they change thier business model, they won't be around long... I'm sure people in Minnesota would welcome more airlines if Northworst folds. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGLASH Posted July 19, 2005 #3 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Got to disagree while NWA to me was a very budget oriented airline,plane were old, and they charged for peanuts, service was adequate, I saved over $150 compared to Air Canada when flying from New York to Calgary. The key however was booking the flight through an airline consolidator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nliedel Posted July 19, 2005 #4 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Consolidators work on international routes. To my knowledge Northwest does not cahrge for peanuts and the planes are up to date. I am a Continental Silver Elite traveler and I always fly Northwest using a codeshare. They have a thirty day cooling off period now. It is only the mechanics union who are in talks. While in the past that meant that pilots and flight attendants would walk off too that is not always the case anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whale-watcher Posted July 19, 2005 #5 Share Posted July 19, 2005 We live near Duluth, so it's NWA or nothing...but often find good flight deals, and overall happy with our experiences. We are scheduled to fly to BOS on 8 september to catch the Enchantment on the 11th...hope we don't have to drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtalum Posted July 19, 2005 #6 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Even if talks fail, the President will probably step in and avert the strike under his authority derived fronm National Railway Labor law. Of course, if that happens there will be delays and delays and delays as the mechanics start working exactly according to the rules. But it's better than a strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&M Hayden Posted July 19, 2005 #7 Share Posted July 19, 2005 People in MN WANT other airlines, but NW has some State official somewhere wrapped around their little finger. NW Doesn't charge for peanuts (or pretzels), they just don't serve them anymore. AND you have to pay if you want anything to eat in coach. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if one day soon NW started charging for soft drinks, coffee & tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPhotog Posted July 19, 2005 #8 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Consolidators work on international routes. To my knowledge Northwest does not cahrge for peanuts and the planes are up to date. I am a Continental Silver Elite traveler and I always fly Northwest using a codeshare. Actually Northwest Airlines is still flying DC-9 jets built in 1967-1969. They might look new with that pretty pearl paint but I assure you they're quite old. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermang Posted July 19, 2005 #9 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Actually Northwest Airlines is still flying DC-9 jets built in 1967-1969. They might look new with that pretty pearl paint but I assure you they're quite old. ;) We are scheduled to fly NWA to Alaska on 8/15 and back from YVR on the 28th - I hope what ever gets resolved is resolved by then, We mostly fly NWA to Detroit to visit relatives and it is sad to see what has happened. Yes they are still flying DC9's which are 25 yrs old - but heck there are airlines stil flying DC3's. Their safety record is pretty good too. Personally I think all the airlines have screwed the flying public - 7 hrs to ANC from DTW and you have to BUY a sandwhich NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nliedel Posted July 19, 2005 #10 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Actually Northwest Airlines is still flying DC-9 jets built in 1967-1969. They might look new with that pretty pearl paint but I assure you they're quite old. ;) Yes but they also fly a lot of newer planes as well, including relativly new 747's and 757's, Airbus 330's, 320's and 319's as well as some new 737's. Their fleet age as recently as 2003 was among the oldest in the US, if not the oldest but recently it is pulling on par with other national carriers. While they do own 149 DC-9's, according to the FAA's website they have also had a recent string of acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debgirl Posted July 19, 2005 #11 Share Posted July 19, 2005 When we fly with Northwest out of Kansas City they always seem to overbook and always looking for someone to give up their seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPhotog Posted July 19, 2005 #12 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Yes but they also fly a lot of newer planes as well, including relativly new 747's and 757's, Airbus 330's, 320's and 319's as well as some new 737's. Their fleet age is on par with other national carriers. Nliedel, I'm not saying you were wrong. Here's a list of average ages. Airline - Avgerage Age AirTran - 15.21 Alaska - 9.37 Aloha - 13.76 America West - 10.29 American - 10.46 ATA - 8.16 Continental - 7.35 Delta - 11.22 JetBlue - 1.73 Midwest - 26.83 Northwest - 20.19 Southwest - 9.23 United - 8.76 USAirways - 11.42 http://www.airsafe.com/events/airlines/fleetage.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmaker Posted July 19, 2005 #13 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Is the 30-day cool-off effective as of today? I am scheduled to take NW Air for my 7/31/05 cruise to Alaska. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry7 Posted July 19, 2005 #14 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Yikes! :eek: I just bought air a few days ago to San Diego for our Hawaii cruise for next May through NWA. I wonder if bankrupcy is really a possibility? If so, would I be out the price of my 2 tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmmn Posted July 19, 2005 #15 Share Posted July 19, 2005 NWA fares are very high for us Minnesotans. No competition. Their customer service has steadily gone down hill. I used to prefer them, but on recent flights the staff has been rude and impolite. I now avoid booking with them if I can. Recently quit serving pretzels to save $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted July 20, 2005 #16 Share Posted July 20, 2005 #1 Anyone out there remember a small event called 911? This darn near broke the backs of almost all US air carriers! #2 Anyone recall the increase in fuel costs? Everyone SCREAMS for low fares, then they turn around and DEMAND Filet Mignon on the flight! Funny how Southwest has only served peanuts for 20+ years and does not offer seat assignments yet folks rave about them because of cheap fares. Pick one! NW has always been a solid airline. They have a truly great safety record. Anyone getting on one of their "OLD" DC-9 jets can relax....The only thing left on that aircraft from the 70's is the original ID tag! Ever heard of a C or D check on an aircraft? Commercial aircraft in the US are literally stripped to the bone, put under microscopes, re-built from the ground up on an ongoing basis. Get upset about air fares, but pick your poison....high fares....food on the flights, etc. Having spent "alot" of years in the airline industry, I will always remember what one of my sales reps once said...."How can intelligent business people check their brain at the gate with some of the stupid things they say?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20832 Posted July 20, 2005 #17 Share Posted July 20, 2005 NWA fares are very high for us Minnesotans. No competition. Their customer service has steadily gone down hill. I used to prefer them, but on recent flights the staff has been rude and impolite. I now avoid booking with them if I can. Recently quit serving pretzels to save $$$. I wish Southwest or FlyI would move into MSP to give Northwest a run for thier money. That would lower the flight costs in a hurry. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MszKitty Posted July 20, 2005 #18 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Arrrgghhhh! I have never flown NWA, but this September we are scheduled to fly with them from Los Angeles to Vancouver for a cruise. I sure hope things are settled by then. As far as no pretzels on the flights...s'ok by me...I don't like them anyway....LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Dazzles Posted July 20, 2005 #19 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Husband flies Northwest almost every week - no complaints. Just about all of the airlines have their good and bad points. Used to fly United a lot - got tired of O'Hare delays - however he is on United this week (Northwest fare was higher). Also fly American quite a bit --- bottom line is it depends where you are going, the date you are going on .... every airline has its pluses and minuses. Also don't forget the three mentioned above all have "partners" - Northwest with Delta for example. We often fly out on Northwest/KLM and come home on Delta or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flossie Posted July 20, 2005 #20 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Another reason to just let the cruise line do the air. Guess they will get you there and you will know up front the cost , yep is usually always alittle higher but you know ahead of time that you will have a seat. We have done air both ways we book / cruise line book, still like the comfort of knowing that we will have a seat, long walk from Indiana to Miami! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPhotog Posted July 20, 2005 #21 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Yikes! :eek: I just bought air a few days ago to San Diego for our Hawaii cruise for next May through NWA. I wonder if bankrupcy is really a possibility? If so, would I be out the price of my 2 tickets? Even in bankruptcy most airlines operate completely as normal. Just continue to communicate with the airline as you get closer to the date to make sure nothing is changed. Don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothin' But Sun Posted July 20, 2005 Author #22 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Even in bankruptcy most airlines operate completely as normal. Just continue to communicate with the airline as you get closer to the date to make sure nothing is changed. Don't worry. I don't understand how they can still operate an normal. If they strike and the pilots follow how do they fly? So how about the $ part of it? Would you lose you $? We spent $820 for 2 tickets, canadian, and it would sure suck to lose out. At what point do you just cancel your flight and change arilines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve20832 Posted July 20, 2005 #23 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I don't understand how they can still operate an normal. If they strike and the pilots follow how do they fly?So how about the $ part of it? Would you lose you $? We spent $820 for 2 tickets' date=' canadian, and it would sure suck to lose out. At what point do you just cancel your flight and change arilines?[/quote'] $820 ? Where are you going to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermang Posted July 20, 2005 #24 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I spoke to the World Perks folks this morning. Obviously they don't know any more than anyone else - but she did say check back about a week before departure. They would try to accomodate on another carrier IF there was a strike. When I said we would be willing to leave a day or so earlier - her comment was that would make it much easier to rebook us IF it came to that. Now on the return flight from YVR - that is a whole nother story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingPhotog Posted July 20, 2005 #25 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I don't understand how they can still operate an normal. If they strike and the pilots follow how do they fly?So how about the $ part of it? Would you lose you $? We spent $820 for 2 tickets' date=' canadian, and it would sure suck to lose out. At what point do you just cancel your flight and change arilines?[/quote'] I'm sorry I wa speaking of bankruptcy when i replied. Bankruptcy is completely different than strike. A strike would likely affect the airline because a major group of employees would choose not to work. In bankruptcy everyone is working together to improve the financial standing of the company. Unfortunately a strike for Northwest may very well lead to bankruptcy because of their money-losing situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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