Under 21 allowed in bar?

[onyourtoes]

When did they raise the age? I thought the minimum age for ALL venues was 18.

 

 

I think she/he can go to the club, they just won't be served alcohol. I took a young man with me to the club one night, he was 20 and we sat together at the bar. He was served soda. The same at the Casino bar - this was on Freedom last September.

[Beeeeeford]

Ah, now that's a really mature way of looking at things. Have you served in the military? Has your daughter? Guessing not - those who have know how to respect rules.

 

Well evidently you are a bad guesser.

[wmp.dll]

I have no problem if your kid drinks in the islands, but be aware that the Guest Conduct Policy says

Parents and guardians are responsible for the behavior and appropriate supervision of their accompanying minor(s) and young adult(s) throughout their vacation.

further in this context it states

Any guest who goes ashore and consumes alcohol (whether under the supervision of a parent/guardian or not, is responsible for ensuring they consume responsibly and retain their ability to recognize and avoid potentially dangerous situations when they return to the ship. Parents/guardians are reminded they are responsible for the actions of their child/young adult at all times while on a Royal Caribbean International cruise vacation.

Basically this says that your kid may drink ashore, but if they come back overly drunk and rowdy [those are my words and interpretation], both the kid and the parents may be kicked off the ship. A little common sense, and there should be no problems.

 

Yes I agree, and obviously discretion and drinking responsibly is advised. Not the best idea to be getting overly intoxicated in port, you might miss the ship!

[TravelerThom]

I'm sure if they tossed off every parent that gave their child one drink, they would be losing a lot of passengers. I figure if my child can be in the military and give their life for their country, then they can have a drink. Either raise the age to 21 to go into the military and potentially die for your country, or lower the drinking age to 18.

It is no secret that many 18 year olds think that they are immortal and unstoppable. That is a very useful if you are looking for someone to charge a machine gun. It is not a very useful trait for someone behind the wheel of a car. Statistics clearly show that raising the legal drinking age decreases teenage fatalities. Many teenagers (and I am including myself when I was that age) don't always make the best decisions.

 

However we may be in agreement with the French law that regulates parents only to the extent that it is illegal to provide alcohol sufficient to result in intoxication of minors. The US law of "anything was wrong yesterday (underage)", "everything is okay today" is hardly a way to introduce drinking in moderation.

 

Thom

[Sherlock43031]

Ah, now that's a really mature way of looking at things. Have you served in the military? Has your daughter? Guessing not - those who have know how to respect rules.

 

hope you don't fall off your high horse..

[Big_G]

I'm sure if they tossed off every parent that gave their child one drink, they would be losing a lot of passengers. I figure if my child can be in the military and give their life for their country, then they can have a drink. Either raise the age to 21 to go into the military and potentially die for your country, or lower the drinking age to 18.

 

I was a cop in a college town when they raised the drinking age and our fatal accident and barroom brawl statistics dropped like a rock. Probably in the ball park of 75 percent. You'll never convince me that lowering the drinking age is a good idea and raising the the age limit on an all voluntary military doesn't make much sense either unless you want higher unemployment, welfare, and prison populations.

[bigque]

Yeah, it's the Crypt. There are also security guys at the entrance downstairs to check ID's and a guy at the opening upstairs checking them. These guys are strict, too.

 

You are correct. They put out all under 18 after I think it was 10:00 or maybe 11!

[bigque]

When I was in college in the 70's and then into the military in 1977 the drinking age was still 18. I think my generation messed it up and was the cause of it getting raised to 21! :eek:

[Big_G]

When I was in college in the 70's and then into the military in 1977 the drinking age was still 18. I think my generation messed it up and was the cause of it getting raised to 21! :eek:

 

In my state they raised it gradually each year until it hit 21. For three years my brother could only drink three months out of a year. You gotta' love politicians. :D

[LetsGetWet!]

In my state they raised it gradually each year until it hit 21. For three years my brother could only drink three months out of a year. You gotta' love politicians. :D

Ha! Had never thought of a case like that! :D

[LuvWilliam]

On our wedding cruise, we sailed with a bunch of family and my younger cousins came along. My 18 yo cousin and 19 year old sister both drank and danced in the nightclub with no questions asked. Granted, they were respectful. They didn't drink too much or get out of control. I think RCI is looking for the 18 year olds who are binge drinking and causing trouble, not the 20 year olds who want to have a couple drinks with their parents! =)

[BillOh]

We are traveling with our two kids on FOS. One child is over 21 and the other child is under 21. Is the under 21 allowed in the bars with us? If so, am I allowed to buy a drink and give it to her (she's 20, almost 21) as I am allowed to do in our home state?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this caught my attention. I'm old enough to remember when some states had a drinking age of 18 (NY) and others 21 (PA) I know a lot of people that died driving from one state to another, but sometime around the time the 55mph speed limit going away the USDOT threatened witholding money to states that had a 21 age and NY went to 21. Are there states in the US that allow a lower age, or are you from another country that has "states"?

 

PS, I re-read your post, and you indicated your state allowed you to buy a drink and give it your kid. I don't think Ohio did. A lot of charities here become involved with events that sell alcohol and I've gone through the training here.

Edited March 5, 2014 by BillOh

[comxkid]

According to researchers at the Center of Alcohol Studies at Rutgers University; raising the drinking age to 21 simply shifted fatalities from those aged 18 to 20 to those aged 21 to 24. They concluded, on the basis of their exhaustive federally-funded study, that drinking experience, not drinking age, is the most important factor.

 

Dr. Mike A. Males of the University of California observes, "The bottom line is that raising the drinking age to 21 did not improve a young person's odds of avoiding fatal alcohol mishap before age 25."

 

The popular idea that delaying the consumption of alcohol by young people appears highly questionable. As researchers at the Center of Alcohol Studies found, drinking experience reduces traffic fatalities. This suggests that young people should learn to drink in moderation before learning to drive. Inexperienced drinking combined with inexperienced driving appears to be a highly dangerous mix. Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, Portuguese and many others around the world teach their children how to drink in moderation as pre-schoolers.

[BillOh]

Basically this says that your kid may drink ashore, but if they come back overly drunk and rowdy [those are my words and interpretation], both the kid and the parents may be kicked off the ship. A little common sense, and there should be no problems.

 

 

Very true, I saw an ugly situation with an 18 year old girl who went ashore in Belize and was fall down drunk by noon and passed out after returning to the ship. We had already left port and were headed back to Port Everglades so they didn't throw them off. (The girl was in no condition to leave her cabin anyway)

[bigque]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this caught my attention. I'm old enough to remember when some states had a drinking age of 18 (NY) and others 21 (PA) I know a lot of people that died driving from one state to another, but sometime around the time the 55mph speed limit going away the USDOT threatened witholding money to states that had a 21 age and NY went to 21. Are there states in the US that allow a lower age, or are you from another country that has "states"?

 

PS, I re-read your post, and you indicated your state allowed you to buy a drink and give it your kid. I don't think Ohio did. A lot of charities here become involved with events that sell alcohol and I've gone through the training here.

 

The military also continued with 18 for a while on base or went with the age of the state that the base was in but later raised it to 21 no matter where the base is located.

I lke the thing about qoutes in your signature. Another thing that can be done is to remove everything within the quote and leave only the sentence you are trying to reply to! :cool:

[BillOh]

According to researchers at the Center of Alcohol Studies at Rutgers University; raising the drinking age to 21 simply shifted fatalities from those aged 18 to 20 to those aged 21 to 24. They concluded, on the basis of their exhaustive federally-funded study, that drinking experience, not drinking age, is the most important factor.

 

Most important factor I'll agree, but not the ONLY factor. If you look at a map of Pennsylvania and its border with NY, Tens of thousands of 18-20 year old's died in the travel from one state to the other.

[BillOh]

In my state they raised it gradually each year until it hit 21. For three years my brother could only drink three months out of a year. You gotta' love politicians. :D

 

 

I didn't know that, can believe it and be amused by it. I assume this was RI where you now live?

[MCazer]

I didn't know that, can believe it and be amused by it. I assume this was RI where you now live?

 

I live in NY, and when I was 18 (1982) drinking age was 18. Then they changed it to 19 in 1984, but I was already 19, so no problem there. Then they changed it to 21 at 12am Jan 1, 1985 and for 11 days I "technically" could not drink. After going to the same neighborhood bar on New Year's Eve, I was told that if I left the bar after midnight, I needed proof of 21 to re-enter. LOL

 

3 years of knowing the bar tenders and bouncers, it was very odd.

[LetsGetWet!]

young people should learn to drink in moderation before learning to drive. Inexperienced drinking combined with inexperienced driving appears to be a highly dangerous mix. Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, Portuguese and many others around the world teach their children how to drink in moderation as pre-schoolers.

Have to agree that that's a whole lot more intelligent way to do it.

 

Having said that, as far as onboard RCI ships I have to laugh at some of the "facts" thrown out here. Official policy is that providing alcohol to anyone under 21 is not allowed, and the stated penalty is up to and including forced debarkation at the next port. Some claim that will ALWAYS happen and others claim that it will NEVER happen. I'm sure the reality is somewhere in the middle. You just have to understand that per the written rules it COULD happen and make your own decisions accordingly.

[ahecht]

Yes, they are allowed. No, they do not allow you to give them alcohol.

 

At some limited events, like Club 20 (nightclub event in Solarium), they do restrict entry to 21 and over.

 

However, on the night they hold the nightclub event in the solarium they also open up the regular nightclub to the under-21 crowd.

[Beeeeeford]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this caught my attention. I'm old enough to remember when some states had a drinking age of 18 (NY) and others 21 (PA) I know a lot of people that died driving from one state to another, but sometime around the time the 55mph speed limit going away the USDOT threatened witholding money to states that had a 21 age and NY went to 21. Are there states in the US that allow a lower age, or are you from another country that has "states"?

 

PS, I re-read your post, and you indicated your state allowed you to buy a drink and give it your kid. I don't think Ohio did. A lot of charities here become involved with events that sell alcohol and I've gone through the training here.

 

I am from Ohio is here is the ORC (Ohio Revised Code) regarding the issue:

 

(1) No underage person shall knowingly order, pay for, share the cost of, attempt to purchase, possess, or consume any beer or intoxicating liquor in any public or private place. No underage person shall knowingly be under the influence of any beer or intoxicating liquor in any public place. The prohibitions set forth in division (E)(1) of this section against an underage person knowingly possessing, consuming, or being under the influence of any beer or intoxicating liquor shall not apply if the underage person is supervised by a parent, spouse who is not an underage person, or legal guardian, or the beer or intoxicating liquor is given by a physician in the regular line of the physician's practice or given for established religious purposes.

[Sherlock43031]

I am from Ohio is here is the ORC (Ohio Revised Code) regarding the issue:

 

(1) No underage person shall knowingly order, pay for, share the cost of, attempt to purchase, possess, or consume any beer or intoxicating liquor in any public or private place. No underage person shall knowingly be under the influence of any beer or intoxicating liquor in any public place. The prohibitions set forth in division (E)(1) of this section against an underage person knowingly possessing, consuming, or being under the influence of any beer or intoxicating liquor shall not apply if the underage person is supervised by a parent, spouse who is not an underage person, or legal guardian, or the beer or intoxicating liquor is given by a physician in the regular line of the physician's practice or given for established religious purposes.

 

 

don't confused these good folks with fact.

[joekatie]

Yes in ohio even your spouse can by for you if he/she is over 21

 

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[comxkid]

don't confused these good folks with fact.

 

Facts?! We don't need no stinkin' facts! This is a Cruise Critic forum.:)

[cage keeper]

When did they raise the age? I thought the minimum age for ALL venues was 18.

 

July 06. My son turned 18 in April 06 and we did our first cruise in August. He was bummed.