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After eight cruises on Carnival, I was offered the opportunity to try Disney Cruise Line by an old friend who currently works for DCL. Now I have been to Disney World 20+ times in my life and am a current Walt Disney World Annual Passholder, but I had my apprehensions about trying Disney as my friend and I are definitely not Disney's target audience (we are both in our mid 20s with no kids) and were worried about being bored with the majority of activities targeted toward children or families. Despite these apprehensions, we decided to give it a try.

 

We booked the Disney Wonder on a 5-night Western Caribbean sailing from Miami to Grand Cayman and Cozumel. We have both sailed this itinerary in the past on the Carnival Paradise, so the ports themselves would be nothing new to us. We sailed on the day after Thanksgiving, which meant that many families were taking an extended holiday vacation, and the ship was full of children, as would be expected on any Disney cruise.

 

I'm going to post a full review with photos over on the Disney Cruise Lines board, but I wanted to offer some comparisons to those of you who have only cruised Carnival in the past and are looking at other options for your next cruise.

 

The Ship: The Disney Wonder is the 2nd of what are commonly referred to as Disney Cruise Line's "classic" ships. Launched in 1999, the ship displaces 83,000 tons, which is just slightly larger than Carnival's Fantasy Class ships.

 

Although the Disney Wonder is roughly the same size and age as the Carnival Paradise (Fantasy class), that is where the comparisons end. I have often compared Carnival's older Fantasy and Destiny class ships to a 2.5 or 3 star hotel, similar to a Hampton Inn or Country Inn & Suites. They are clean and reasonably maintained, but can best be described as a "value" experience. The Disney Wonder more closely compares to a 4 star luxury hotel. In fact, many of the public areas reminded me of Disney's Beach Club hotel at Walt Disney World. The entire ship is immaculately maintained and aside from some older technology, still feels almost brand new. You can't say that about Carnival's 15-year old ships.

 

We also felt that the Disney Wonder was far less crowded than a typical Carnival ship, even considering the fact that there were probably over 1,000 children on our sailing. We did notice that the dining rooms were less than 2/3 full for the late seating, which is a sign than our sailing may not have been at capacity.

 

The Disney Wonder definitely has the feel of a luxury hotel, as it should given its roughly $200 to 300 per person, per day price tag. Carnival's newest ships have a more upscale feel, but even the Carnival Dream doesn't come close to the fit and finish of the Disney Wonder.

 

Advantage: Disney

 

The Stateroom: We booked a Category 7A Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom w/Navigator's Verandah Guarantee, which roughly equates to a partially obstructed balcony stateroom on Carnival. We were fortunate enough to get upgraded to Category 6A Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom w/Verandah, which eliminates the partial obstruction of a solid metal railing.

 

Although I didn't get a photo of our stateroom on the Disney Wonder, I would say that it very closely resembled the standard balcony staterooms that I have had on the Carnival Dream and Carnival Pride. The size, fit, and finish are very similar, with the only major difference being Disney's exclusive split bathroom design, with a toilet and sink in one compartment and a shower and sink in another, theoretically allowing two people to get ready at the same time. While a great idea in theory, the result is two compartments that are almost too small to use. In fact, at 6'3" tall, my head touched the ceiling in the shower (due to a raised floor, presumably for drainage?), and anyone taller than I would have to sit at an angle on the toilet to avoid knees touching the wall. The split bathrooms on the Disney Wonder are indeed VERY small.

 

Another feature that may benefit some families on the Disney Wonder is a privacy curtain that can be drawn to separate the bed from the sitting area, providing some degree of peace and privacy should one member of the family wish to nap while others are reading, watching television, or enjoying the balcony.

 

Speaking of television, the Disney Wonder has a distinct advantage in this area thanks to the Walt Disney company's vast entertainment empire. I counted no less than 7 channels of original Disney movies, plus the Disney Channel family, ESPN, and several Spanish language Disney content channels, in addition to the usual line up of satellite television channels that you might see on another cruise line. Overall, I think that the Disney ships had 40+ channels of content, vs. perhaps 15 on a Carnival cruise. Not that anyone goes on a cruise to watch television...

 

Advantage: Equal

 

Service: Disney hires most of the service staff from the same regions of the world as all of the other major cruise lines, and puts them through the same rigorous training standards that you would see on any of the major lines. I would say that the service staff was just as friendly and accommodating on Disney as on Carnival, and even attempted to add a few additional Disney touches and jokes, even if they didn't completely understand them. I can't say that Disney's service was better or worse than Carnival, as both have very high standards.

 

In terms of cleanliness of the ship, Carnival's team seems to do a better job of quickly cleaning up beverage cups and plates from open decks and lounges, while Disney had far fewer people roaming the open decks looking to remove plates, cups, etc. Instead, Disney uses paper and plastic products for their pool deck food and beverage locations and places trash and recycling receptacles around the open decks. That being said, the occasional bar waiter walking by would always offer to remove empty plates or cups if they had an empty tray.

 

On the interior of the ship, Disney did a much better job of anticipating guest flow and moving staff around to ensure that high traffic areas were always impeccably clean. At meal times, every restroom near the dining rooms were staffed with an attendant who would literally clean it after every use. Later in the evening, those restroom attendants would be posted in the restrooms outside of the theaters, lounges, and bars. If there is one area where Disney has a distinct advantage on cleanliness, it is in the public restrooms.

 

Advantage: Equal

 

Buffet: The primary buffet on the Disney Wonder is the Beach Blanket Buffet, located in the aft area of the pool deck. The set up is different than Carnival's buffets in that you enter the buffet area via the buffet line, a design which presumably discourages repeat visits to the buffet as it forces you to walk all the way around to the entrance to re-enter the line.

 

Breakfast food is similar to what you would see on Carnival, with the same boil-in-bag scrambled eggs, undercooked bacon, and pre-made breakfast pastries on the main buffet, with a satellite station for omelets hidden around the corner. There is no mention of the omelet station until you have already filled your plate on the main buffet line, so it never seemed to get much action, despite the buffet being busy.

 

Lunch is where Disney sets their buffet apart from Carnival. Although the buffet is considerably smaller on the Disney Wonder, and offers fewer overall options, Disney makes up for it with high quality dishes. You won't find many deep fried items on the buffet (although they are available at the poolside grill). Instead, you are more likely to find items such as peel-and-eat shrimp cocktail, grilled salmon, and hand-carved roast beef or turkey. Disney's lunch buffet definitely beats Carnival in terms of quality, temperature, and taste, even if the overall number of selections are somewhat less. My only complaint about Disney's buffet is the limited hours for lunch, which was open from 12:00 to 2:30 daily. After 2:30, you are limited to the poolside dining windows until dinner.

 

Disney also offers a breakfast and lunch buffet in the Parrot Cay dining room, which is nearly identical to the offerings at the Beach Blanket Buffet, but in a quieter, more upscale setting.

 

Advantage: Disney

 

Poolside Dining: Disney's poolside offerings include Goofy's Galley (Deli), Pluto's Dog House (Grill), and Pinocchio's Pizzeria, as well as the Scoops soft-serve ice cream.

 

Goofy's Galley offers small hot and cold deli sandwiches and miniature oriental vegetable wraps. All sandwiches are pre-made and placed on trays inside of the deli case, so there are no custom requests. The advantage to this is that the line moves much faster as the attendant simply grabs your order out of the case and sends you on your way. Carnival's deli is all made to order, and lines at peak times can exceed 15 minutes.

 

Pluto's Dog House serves grilled burgers, grilled cajun chicken sandwiches, veggie burgers, and chicken tenders, with a small topping bar featuring lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles, coleslaw, and a few other condiments. We both ate at Pluto's Dog House once on the last sea day. We both had the grilled cajun chicken sandwich, which although hot and flavorful, was seriously lacking in the meat department. It appeared as if Disney is using a thinly rolled chicken tender rather than an actual grilled chicken breast on the sandwich, and it only filled about half of the bun. Carnival's grill stations aren't much better, although I have heard good things about ships that have received the Guy's Burger Joint upgrade.

 

Pinocchio's Pizza offers four different varieties of pizza daily. On the last sea day, they also had a special cream cheese filled cinnamon sugar pretzel on the menu, which I did not recall seeing on any other day of the cruise. The pizza reminded me of a Red Baron frozen pizza, definitely pre-made and only suitable for children.

 

Scoops is the soft-serve ice cream cone area on the Disney Wonder. Although not 24 hours like on Carnival's ships (Scoops closes at 11:00PM), I did enjoy the fact that their flavors seemed to rotate about every other day, with unique offerings such as blueberry and mango in addition to the traditional vanilla and chocolate.

 

Overall I found Disney's poolside options to be somewhat lacking, aside from the fresh fruit at Goofy's Galley and the unique ice cream flavors at Scoops.

 

Advantage: Neither cruise line excels in this area, but I will have to give a slight advantage to Carnival for their made to order deli station.

 

Dining Room: The Disney Wonder features Disney's exclusive rotational dining in which you rotate through three different assigned time dining rooms for dinner. Each restaurant features its own theme and cooresponding menu. Triton's is the most upscale of the three dining rooms and features a French inspired menu. Animator's Palette is Disney Cruse Line's signature main dining room experience in which the artwork on the walls changes from black and white to full color as the courses progress. Parrot Cay is a tropical themed dining room with a Caribbean inspired menu. On cruises longer than three days, you will repeat some of the dining rooms (in our case Animator's Palette and Tritons), but with a special theme menu cooresponding to the night's entertainment, such as the Pirates IN the Caribbean dinner and the Farewell dinner.

 

The main dining room food on the Disney Wonder ranged from "okay" to "good" at best. The service was great, but none of the actual food wowed us, and we found it to be below the standards of both Carnival's main dining room meals as well as many meals that you can find at Walt Disney World's table service restaurants. Appetizers were generally small 3-bite portions, salads were very basic, and the main courses seemed uninspired. There was generally one beef, one poultry, one fish, one pasta, and one vegetarian option available each night. Shrimp and lobster were never offered as an entree, which I found strange as those are generally cruise ship staples.

 

With rotational dining, Disney does not offer a "your time dining" option. Instead you are restricted to a 6:45 or 8:15 assigned dining time each evening, and you will sit with the same guests each night. This was not an issue for us, although we have enjoyed the flexibility of your time dining on several previous cruises. It could be a bigger issue for families traveling with young children or those who prefer not to dine with other people. Disney does, however, provide a unique service to late dining guests in which children are served their main course along with the adult appetizer course and then are escorted by the children's staff from the dining room to the kid's club areas promptly at 9:00 so that the adults can enjoy the remainder of their dinner without worrying about cranky children during a 1.5 to 2 hour meal.

 

Advantage: Carnival for food quality, variety, and flexibility of your time dining.

 

Specialty Dining: This was the first cruise that we have ever tried a specialty restaurant. Neither one of us are big fans of red meat, so Carnival's steak house restaurants never really appealed to us. We have always been very happy with the main dining room experience on Carnival and have never really had a desire to spend the extra money for a specialty dining experience. On this cruise, at the suggestion of my friend who works for Disney Cruise Line, we decided to book a reservation for dinner at Palo, Disney's adults-only specialty restaurant featuring northern Italian cuisine. We were highly impressed. The only experience that I can think of that even comes close to comparing to the food quality and service that we experienced at Palo would be Ruth's Chris Steakhouse in Tampa, which for anyone familiar, comes at three times the price of a Palo dining experience. We were very happy with our decision to dine at Palo, and will look forward to dining there again if we ever have the opportunity to take another Disney cruise.

 

Entertainment: This is an area where Disney really shines. They are experts in live entertainment in their theme parks, on broadway, and on television, and they bring this expertise to the cruise line as well. They have three (four if you include the Welcome Aboard show) broadway style musicals that feature a cast of roughly 24 singers and dancers. They are much bigger productions than Carnival's Las Vegas style reviews, and all feature classic Disney and Pixar characters and music, making them very family friendly.

 

In addition to the main stage shows, Disney also has a full 300 seat cinema onboard each of their ships, showing five or six different movies throughout the course of the cruise, with showtimes from 8:30AM until 10:30PM daily.

 

Daytime entertainment on Disney consists of game show style shows, some of which are better than others, as well as character meet and greets. There were two or three Disney-related trivia sessions, considerably fewer than what Carnival offers. We didn't find daytime entertainment to be lacking on Disney, but only because we chose to sleep in, relax by the pool, and read. Had we wanted to be more active in daily events as we have been on Carnival cruises in the past, we may have found the daytime lineup lacking in variety.

 

For adults, Disney offers mixology and alcohol tasting sessions during the day and after 9:00PM, three adults-only bars and lounges in an area dubbed Route 66. Cadillac Lounge is the Disney Wonder's piano bar, although we never saw more than 10 people there. Themed like an English pub, Diversions serves as the Disney Wonder's sports bar, and is much more impressive in size than the sports bars found on Carnival's ships. It even features a miniature snack bar, featuring hot dogs, carrots and celery, chips and salsa, and more. It seemed to be a popular destination for football games over the weekend, but outside of those times, the space seemed under-utilized.

 

Wavebands is the Disney Wonder's adults-only show lounge and also doubles as a disco and karaoke lounge after the nightly 10:00 show. The adults only entertainment on our cruise included Disney's version of the newlywed game, a juggling act, a magic act, and a karaoke night. The juggler and magician also performed family friendly acts in the Walt Disney Theater, which were much bigger productions than the adults only shows in Wavebands. Some of the shows were fairly well attended, but the lounge never filled to capacity, and as soon as the shows were over, very few people (perhaps 30) stuck around for the late night disco hours. Although we enjoyed the newlywed game, we really missed Carnival's Punchliner Comedy Club. It felt as if the whole ship basically went to sleep at 11:00.

 

Advantage: Disney wins hands down for their main show lounge entertainment, however Carnival wins in the areas of daytime and adults only entertainment.

 

Overall Impressions: Disney surprised me. As I said earlier, we are not Disney's target audience, but we still enjoyed our time aboard the Disney Wonder and would definitely sail on Disney again. Overall, our Disney cruise felt a bit more relaxed than our previous cruises on Carnival, and although we found ourselves going to bed earlier due to the lack of late night activities for adults, it really did not have a negative impact on our overall enjoyment of the cruise

 

Disney definitely has the upper hand for the overall luxury feel of the ship and the Broadway style entertainment that they offer in the main show lounge. For families, they also do an outstanding job of bringing the Disney magic to life at every opportunity.

 

Carnival still wins in the areas of dining (main dining room experience), daytime entertainment, and adults-only entertainment, but overall we were very pleased with our Disney Cruise Line experience and would not hesitate to book another cruise on DCL in the future.

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Excellent review. We can do Disney anytime we want as we have annual passes for WDW but I must admit I would like to try a DCL cruise but the cost is very prohibitive.

 

I am glad our ability to Disney anytime we choose allows us not to have to do the mouse at sea. Our family of 4 could do two 8 day cruises on the Breeze compared to one 5 day cruise on DCL.

 

The switching MDR's is a neat concept.

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I have found the size of the Wonder is closer to the Spirit class than the Fantasy class, but neither really compare. The Wonder truly outshines both. The service is impeccable, and the cleanliness of the ship almost pristine. Just never can figure out why they have a hard time emptying the public trash receptacles. They always seem to be overflowing. Yet a stark difference to a Carnival ship, where an early stroll finds garbage all of the place; on tables, and even elevators. Luckily, that's cleaned up by the time the rest of the ship wakes up.

 

I do believe you have miscalculated the size of the stateroom. If memory serves, it is more like 250 SF to CCl's 185. Yes, the split bath is smaller compartments, but we enjoyed the usefulness of it. I can imagine someone claustrophobic having a problem with it, yet the wife never complained. I do remember feeling a bit "Gulliver" while performing my daily ablutions.

 

I agree about the Disney food. It's the only thing I have ever complained about, with the worst choices being offered in Parrot Cay.

 

I noticed you didn't mention the "free" soda, and the ability to freely bring on your own alcohol. Another thing we found Disney scoring high on was embarkation and debarkation, which was painless and line free.

 

Being we cruised with kids, we never took advantage of the adult only areas, but those that did raved about it.

 

We returned and did a second cruise on DCL, but it was such a calculated formula, we found ourselves feeling a repeat experience as opposed to something new, but we were limited to the Wonder doing the one week LAND/SEA program.

 

Thanks for the great read. Only disappointed you didn't sedum to get to visit the jewel of Disney: Castaway Cay.

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Wow. Fabulous review. We were debating Carnival or Disney for our upcoming January 2015 cruise, but for logistical reasons settled on Carnival. I was disappointed. Less so, having read your review as it sounds like Carnival holds its own. :-)

 

If you take price into comparison, I think you will see a sizable difference as well. In other discussions here, I have read that "soda is free on Disney", which is true. However, a soda card on Carnival cost a small fraction of the price difference. Of course, as the op points out, there are many other factors to consider.

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If you take price into comparison, I think you will see a sizable difference as well. In other discussions here, I have read that "soda is free on Disney", which is true. However, a soda card on Carnival cost a small fraction of the price difference. Of course, as the op points out, there are many other factors to consider.

 

While that could be true, it's not always. We have paid the same for a Carnival cruise as we have for a Disney cruise. It was just at two different times of the year. Same accommodations.

 

And if you tinker with accommodations, you can do the same with other times of the year.

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I have found the size of the Wonder is closer to the Spirit class than the Fantasy class, but neither really compare. .

I agree about the size comparison between Disney and the Spirit class. While I have never sailed Disney, I have taken tours of several of their ships. To be honest, I was a little disappointed in the Wonder. Not that there was anything wrong, but for the price I had set higher expectations.

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While that could be true, it's not always. We have paid the same for a Carnival cruise as we have for a Disney cruise. It was just at two different times of the year. Same accommodations.

 

And if you tinker with accommodations, you can do the same with other times of the year.

 

To a Dream class ship to the newer Disney ships (price comparison) I would have to see it (there may be a rare exception) but I would be shocked. I mean like for like not inside to balcony. I believe you, but we quote Disney cruises a lot and they have never been a price leader.

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I agree about the size comparison between Disney and the Spirit class. While I have never sailed Disney, I have taken tours of several of their ships. To be honest, I was a little disappointed in the Wonder. Not that there was anything wrong, but for the price I had set higher expectations.

 

Having toured a couple of ships myself over the years, I can say there's no comparison to actually sailing one. In fact, not having a cabin while on a ship just found odd, even though we had free range to a number of them while on board.

 

EDIT: that reminds me of my tour of the Triumph when she came direct to NY from Italy. That course board that shows location and itinerary was still lit up having come across the Atlantic from that boot.

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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question, but I've never been on DCL. With the Rotational Dining, how do you know which dining room to go to each night?

 

You get tickets in your cabin when you board that tell you which restaraunt you are assigned to each night of the cruise. Its also on your Key to the World Card.

 

You sit at the same table # in all the dining rooms, and your waitstaff follows you as well.

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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question, but I've never been on DCL. With the Rotational Dining, how do you know which dining room to go to each night?

 

You don't know until you board the ship. They print the first letter of the dining room for each night on the bottom of your Key to the World card. Ours was TAAPT, or Triton's, Artist, Artist, Parrot, Triton's.

 

If you forget, the people sitting in your seat at the other dining room will surely tell you ;)

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If you take price into comparison, I think you will see a sizable difference as well. In other discussions here, I have read that "soda is free on Disney", which is true. However, a soda card on Carnival cost a small fraction of the price difference. Of course, as the op points out, there are many other factors to consider.

 

Disney and Carnival make their money in different ways. Carnival presents a low up front price and then brings in large sums from the bars, casino, photos, shore excursions, bingo, etc.

 

Disney charges a higher price up front, but has free coke fountains on the pool deck and in the buffet (you still pay if you order it at a bar), lets you bring all types of alcohol onto the ship, hosts far fewer bingo sessions, has no casino on the ship, and is very low pressure when it comes to selling photos, etc. In fact, the only time we were ever asked to pose for a photo was in the terminal in Miami before boarding the ship.

 

On a typical Carnival cruise, I would probably spend an additional $50 or $60 per day onboard. On Disney, I only spent about $60 onboard for the entire trip.

 

I came back from the cruise with a new joke that explains Disney perfectly. Only Disney would give you free all-you-can-eat shrimp cocktail on the buffet and then hit you up for $3.50 for a box of popcorn outside of the theater.

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Disney and Carnival make their money in different ways. Carnival presents a low up front price and then brings in large sums from the bars, casino, photos, shore excursions, bingo, etc.

 

 

 

Disney charges a higher price up front, but has free coke fountains on the pool deck and in the buffet (you still pay if you order it at a bar), lets you bring all types of alcohol onto the ship, hosts far fewer bingo sessions, has no casino on the ship, and is very low pressure when it comes to selling photos, etc. In fact, the only time we were ever asked to pose for a photo was in the terminal in Miami before boarding the ship.

 

 

 

On a typical Carnival cruise, I would probably spend an additional $50 or $60 per day onboard. On Disney, I only spent about $60 onboard for the entire trip.

 

 

 

I came back from the cruise with a new joke that explains Disney perfectly. Only Disney would give you free all-you-can-eat shrimp cocktail on the buffet and then hit you up for $3.50 for a box of popcorn outside of the theater.

 

 

True enough, they do make their money different ways. To each their own. Most of our group that sail together would not sail Disney for the sheer fact they don't have a casino. Disney is a premium cruise line. They can command their cruise fares. I have stayed on property at Disney World way over a 100 days. Disney is .... Well, Disney. It's just not worth it to me.

 

 

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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question, but I've never been on DCL. With the Rotational Dining, how do you know which dining room to go to each night?

 

 

I cruised Disney in 2005 and it was WONDERFUL! From what I can remember, it was on our Sail and Sign Card. There was three dining rooms and it was listed by name of each dining room and after the 3rd one, you start back over. ex: Parrott Cay, Animators Palate, Tritons then you start back at Parrott Cay again.

 

Again, it's been 9 years ago, I've slept alot since then... lol But i'm pretty sure thats where is was. :)

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Disney's answer to Any Time Dining is the buffet at dinner. The buffet on each ship, at night, becomes a table service restaurant that you can walk up to at any time. You are served and the menu consists of selections from each of the three main dining rooms.

 

 

I liked the pizza on the Wonder, but apparently I'm the only one.

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My wife and I took our eight year old on the Disney Wonder last January after two Carnival cruises. It was nice and we enjoyed it but I don't believe it was worth the extra cost. I would cruise Disney again if I could find a really good sale on. We have two Carnival cruises scheduled his year.

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We were on the Disney Wonder the cruise before yours a 4 day out of Miami. We did not have a good experience at all. The ship sailed full and I swear there were more kids than adults on the cruise and it seemed none of them were in the kids clubs. The noise level was horrendous and I swear we lost some of our ability to hear. As you said the split bathroom was nice, but we are also tall people and both of the bathrooms were almost impossible to manage for us. The cabin (oceanview) was smaller than on Carnival, so with 4 adults we felt very cramped and our luggage, which is by no means oversized, would not fit under the bed. Overall storage space in the cabin on Carnival is better than on Disney. We liked the food better on Carnival and felt that Disney over relied on using coconut products in the dining room meals. We could never find an empty lounger in the adult only Cove pool area. Our stateroom and dining staff were good, but I did not feel any magic from the general staff around the Disney ship. We liked Castaway Cay better than Half Moon Cay. The shows were of course better on Disney than Carnival, but for more than twice the price, we don't think we will be sailing Disney anytime soon again, if ever.

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great review. I wouldn't mind trying Disney, but I cant see spending big bucks (last checked for a 4 day cruise, inside room was $5000 :eek: for 2 people!:eek:) It's just insane to drop that money just because of the Disney name.

 

I'd be curious to know what ship, date, and itinerary cost $5,000 for an inside cabin for 4 days even on DCL.:eek:

 

I've never seen a price anywhere close to that on DCL.

 

Bill

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I'd be curious to know what ship, date, and itinerary cost $5,000 for an inside cabin for 4 days even on DCL.:eek:

 

I've never seen a price anywhere close to that on DCL.

 

Bill

 

I swear some people look or pay "book" price.

 

I had a balcony for 3 for way less than that.

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I'd be curious to know what ship, date, and itinerary cost $5,000 for an inside cabin for 4 days even on DCL.:eek:

 

I've never seen a price anywhere close to that on DCL.

 

Bill

 

Double occupancy seems to be between $200 and $350 per person, per day. I could see coming up with that price if you took the published per person rate and multiplied for quad occupancy, but that does not factor in the heavy discount for the 3rd and 4th person. I could, however, see $5,000 for a family of four sharing two inside cabins.

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