spindrift Posted February 28, 2015 #1 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Maybe someone can answer this for me. Originally the Sirena site showed the "Inaugural" cruise April 27th and the "Maiden" May 11th. Now the May 11th cruise no longer shows "Maiden" but is named the "Idyllic Ionian." ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted February 28, 2015 #2 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Maybe they decided to make them one in the same Inaugural Voyage & Maiden voyage together :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted February 28, 2015 #3 Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) LOL, it's the old, old story of "What IS a Maiden?" Even the brochure writers may have been unsure at first because the last time that Oceania introduced a ship, which was the Riviera, she had a purely promotional Inaugural voyage from Monte Carlo to Venice, immediately followed by her first voyage carrying paying passengers, her true "maiden voyage" which was a cruise from Venice to Athens. At some point, it was probably pointed out that if the Sirena carries paying passengers on that 4/27 Cruise, then she would no longer qualify as a maiden on 5/11. As everyone knows, it is only possible to lose that distinction once, regardless of what the Equestrians among us say! ;) Edited February 28, 2015 by StanandJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted February 28, 2015 Author #4 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Very interesting. So I guess we will have to wait and see how it plays out. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PaulMCO Posted February 28, 2015 #5 Share Posted February 28, 2015 LOL, it's the old, old story of "What IS a Maiden?" LOL -- since it is her 4th Marriage -- doubtful a maiden is she.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted February 28, 2015 #6 Share Posted February 28, 2015 LOL -- since it is her 4th Marriage -- doubtful a maiden is she.. Ah, Paul- Whenever the immortal Madonna sings- "Touched for the very first time" My reaction is to think, for the first time today, possibly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuldalai Posted March 1, 2015 #7 Share Posted March 1, 2015 A Maiden Voyage and an Inaugural Voyage are both the same thing - the first voyage of vessel . So if a line tries to say that a Maiden Voyage and an Inaugural Voyage are different it is just marketing bs !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted March 1, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) A Maiden Voyage and an Inaugural Voyage are both the same thing - the first voyage of vessel . So if a line tries to say that a Maiden Voyage and an Inaugural Voyage are different it is just marketing bs !!!!! The maiden voyage voyage of a Passenger ship has always been considered to be her first voyage carrying paying passengers. Using the most famous (if unsuccessful) Maiden voyage of all time as an example, the Titanic was built in Belfast, Ireland, but her maiden voyage was to be an Atlantic crossing from Southampton to New York. Nobody would consider her voyage from Ireland to England (which was her first) to be her "maiden". Similarly, although Sirena may by rights only have one "maiden" voyage, she will have any number of "Inaugurals" as she visits various ports for the first time under the Oceania flag. There is a very strong maritime precedent for this, as dignitaries from each Port city keep close track of which vessels patronize their facilities and will often come aboard and present plaques and certificates......because the ship is having an Inaugural visit with them, even if she may be far from a maiden... This is Captain Flokos accepting just such a Plaque from the Port of San Francisco on behalf of the Marina on the occasion of her Inaugural visit. Edited March 1, 2015 by StanandJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted March 4, 2015 Author #9 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well, I am thrilled to say that we are booked on the Sirena's "Inaugural" Cruise April 27, 2016, :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted March 5, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Great!! Congratulations, you will be the very first! When the cruise is over, come back and tell us what you were first at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoHoHo Posted March 5, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Cc duplicate delete. Edited March 5, 2015 by YoHoHo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoHoHo Posted March 5, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Enjoy spindrift! We considered, and then reconsidered, and considered yet again. And then we ..., rinse & repeat. Would have been fun to add another inaugural. Hope you have another *great* trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuldalai Posted March 5, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) The maiden voyage voyage of a Passenger ship has always been considered to be her first voyage carrying paying passengers. Using the most famous (if unsuccessful) Maiden voyage of all time as an example, the Titanic was built in Belfast, Ireland, but her maiden voyage was to be an Atlantic crossing from Southampton to New York. Nobody would consider her voyage from Ireland to England (which was her first) to be her "maiden". Similarly, although Sirena may by rights only have one "maiden" voyage, she will have any number of "Inaugurals" as she visits various ports for the first time under the Oceania flag. There is a very strong maritime precedent for this, as dignitaries from each Port city keep close track of which vessels patronize their facilities and will often come aboard and present plaques and certificates......because the ship is having an Inaugural visit with them, even if she may be far from a maiden... This is Captain Flokos accepting just such a Plaque from the Port of San Francisco on behalf of the Marina on the occasion of her Inaugural visit. There is again a distinct difference between an inaugural voyage which visits many ports, to an inaugural visit to a port by a vessel or line which is the first visit by the line or a specific vessel to that port . Edited March 5, 2015 by kuldalai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted March 5, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) There is again a distinct difference between an inaugural voyage which visits many ports, to an inaugural visit to a port by a vessel or line which is the first visit by the line or a specific vessel to that port . If you refer to the difference between a Maiden voyage and an Inaugural voyage, then yes, I believe that we are in agreement. Your last statement, however, begs the question, when or why is a voyage on which something Inaugural occurs not an Inaugural Voyage? Disagreeing in principle isn't enough, as words have specific meanings. I'm reminded of the fast food chain which sued their supplier when they learned that the processed chicken which they were buying contained every part of the chicken except the feathers. Rather than fighting a losing, unpleasant battle about the inclusion of feet, beaks, eyes and brains, opposing council simply placed one of those plucked chickens in front of the Judge, and asked which specific part of it should not properly be classified as "chicken". I'll leave it with you. When is an Inaugural not an Inaugural? Edited March 5, 2015 by StanandJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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