shot2bits Posted August 25, 2015 #1 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I recently saw a post relating to these, but I cant find it. Will I be OK using one of these on Eclipse? Thanks http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00T720XBI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sptrout Posted August 25, 2015 #2 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I recently saw a post relating to these, but I cant find it.Will I be OK using one of these on Eclipse? Thanks http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00T720XBI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 I believe that the previous posting you mentioned on these types of devices concerned "surge protection", which is a no-no. (Please folks, do not restart that issue.) The wording on Amazon's web page mentions "input voltage/current protection", but not specifically surge protection. My guess, based on the manufacturer's web site (link below) is that it does not have conventional, power strip-type, surge protection, and therefore, would be OK. In any case, I do not think it would be a problem. There are other similar devices available that do not mention surge protection at all, which may be better. Really hard to tell based on the information provided by the Amazon, or the manufacturer. http://www.prohavit.com/products/ul-certified-havit-hv-241u-5-5-port-intelligent-recognition-usb-charger/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames9 Posted August 25, 2015 #3 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Used 1 of these on the Silhouette..no issues http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Family-Sized-Charger-Technology-AX-TPCS/dp/B00OJ79UK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440525366&sr=8-1&keywords=Sabrent+60+Watt+%2812+Amp%29+10-Port+Family-Sized+Desktop+USB+Rapid+Charger.+Smart+USB+Charger+with+Auto+Detect+Technology+for+iPhone+6+5s+5c+5%2C+iPad+Air+mini%2C+Galaxy+S5+S4%2C+Note+3+2%2C+the+new+HTC+One+%28M8%29%2C+Nexus+and+More+%5BBlack%5D+%28AX-TPCS%29&pebp=1440525374472&perid=17VET763Q6T4REWBHSNQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted August 25, 2015 Author #4 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thanks both of you. Looking at the description, I think I will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb140 Posted August 25, 2015 #5 Share Posted August 25, 2015 FWIW, I've got exactly that one, and used it on Equinox with no problem in June. It was packed in our carry-ons so I guess that they would have seen it perfectly clearly on the Xray machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle-guy Posted August 25, 2015 #6 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Far any MacBook users out there, I just got this gizmo: http://oneadaptr.com Swap off the plug from the adapter and attach this, you get all-in-one international plug adapters, and 4 USB ports to charge iPhones and iPads, all in one unit - and of course, still charges the MacBook. SO go from Home with US plug, to ship with Euro plug, to hotel in the UK with UK plug, and never have to swap anything out or carry extra parts or adapters for multiple devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gergles Posted August 25, 2015 #7 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It is most assuredly not a no-no, or else it would be on the ship's prohibited items list. Surge protectors simply are not. This thing will be fine. http://www.celebritycruises.com/plan-and-book/before-you-go-getting-ready?tab=before_you_go_getting_ready - click Packing, and expand "What not to Pack". Notice how "surge protectors" isn't there? This myth needs to stop. You can bring surge protectors. You can't bring extension cords. This thing is neither a surge protector nor an extension cord, so the point is especially moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted August 25, 2015 Author #8 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'm a bit disappointed about the handcuffs[emoji8] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle-guy Posted August 25, 2015 #9 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It is most assuredly not a no-no, or else it would be on the ship's prohibited items list. Surge protectors simply are not. This thing will be fine. http://www.celebritycruises.com/plan-and-book/before-you-go-getting-ready?tab=before_you_go_getting_ready - click Packing, and expand "What not to Pack". Notice how "surge protectors" isn't there? This myth needs to stop. You can bring surge protectors. You can't bring extension cords. This thing is neither a surge protector nor an extension cord, so the point is especially moot. And I'm positive I read on the Celebrity Facebook page that someone asked if you can bring power strips, and the answer was yes, you can bring them on. I wish one could "search" a Facebook page. I saw this about 3 weeks or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb140 Posted August 25, 2015 #10 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Far any MacBook users out there, I just got this gizmo: http://oneadaptr.com Swap off the plug from the adapter and attach this, you get all-in-one international plug adapters, and 4 USB ports to charge iPhones and iPads, all in one unit - and of course, still charges the MacBook. SO go from Home with US plug, to ship with Euro plug, to hotel in the UK with UK plug, and never have to swap anything out or carry extra parts or adapters for multiple devices. Because of this, I've just gone to the site and bought one. That was an expensive diversion lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted August 26, 2015 #11 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I believe that the previous posting you mentioned on these types of devices concerned "surge protection", which is a no-no. (Please folks, do not restart that issue.) You started it. Surge Protectors are not prohibited. That is a fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project_gal Posted August 26, 2015 #12 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I recently saw a post relating to these, but I cant find it.Will I be OK using one of these on Eclipse? Thanks http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00T720XBI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 Apologies for being a little off topic but I have purchased three of these hubs in the past and they have a relatively short life of working well. They quickly become temperamental, especially their ability to charge devices but, eventually, for data. If you are intending purchasing the hub purely for cruising, you are probably OK. Otherwise, I suggest trying to find another, more reliable, product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted August 26, 2015 #13 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If you are boarding out of Sydney or Auckland then the local security companies who have been tasked with looking after boarding will confiscate any power boards in one's luggage. They are quite open about the fact that power boards are not permitted. I guess one takes the risk if power boards are put into one's luggage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted August 26, 2015 Author #14 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sailing from Southampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sptrout Posted August 26, 2015 #15 Share Posted August 26, 2015 You started it. Surge Protectors are not prohibited. That is a fact! I did not say that surge protectors are prohibited (yet), but are a no-no because it is well known that they can, and have, caused fires on ships (unlike irons that have never caused a ship fire). I thought that this subject was beaten to death on this board a while back, and it was to an extent, but it really hit the fan on the Princess Board. The first link below takes to a USCG Marine Safety Alert, which shows a picture of a burned out ship cabin that was caused by a typical surge protector. It also explains why a ship's AC power is different than what you have on land. The USCG now strongly recommends that surge protectors that are not made for marine purposes be prohibited on all ships. The second link will take you a spot near the beginning of a long thread that goes back and forth on this issue. This thread even contains a great technical description of why surge protectors are bad on ships and it was written by an electrical engineer for the USCG. Funny how electronic ingorant people argue with a Marine Electrical Engineer. After many attempts, he finally shut them all up. As mentioned in the thread, Carnival already prohits surge protectors. IMO, all will follow quickly once there is a fire is a passenger cabin. There is no reason to have a surge protector in your cabin, 1) they are a known fire hazard, and 2) do absolutely nothing to protect anything. Even the MOV protectors that you may have at home are nearly worthless. http://www.uscg.mil/tvncoe/Documents/safetyalerts/SurgeProtectiveDevices.pdf http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=47169491&postcount=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody14h Posted August 26, 2015 #16 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have used this on several trips and was never told not to. It doesn't seem to be a problem with the cabin stewards. There is such of lack in outlets in the cabins. http://www.belkin.com/us/BST300-Belkin/p/P-BST300;jsessionid=1C4E86E26A03A35ADE198E664AE61335/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted August 26, 2015 #17 Share Posted August 26, 2015 There is no reason to have a surge protector in your cabin, 1) they are a known fire hazard, and 2) do absolutely nothing to protect anything. Even the MOV protectors that you may have at home are nearly worthless. If it is a known fire hazard Celebrity should ban it. They have not, at least not yet. The situation described in the Coast Guard alert was not on a cruise ship, it was a US Container ship. It was due to faulty wiring in combination with a surge protector. The alert makes recommendations but specifically says it is not mandating any action. Unless the Coast Guard and or the Cruise line prohibits them they are not a no no. As far as surge protectors at home being nearly worthless, that is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle-guy Posted August 26, 2015 #18 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) If it is a known fire hazard Celebrity should ban it. They have not, at least not yet. The situation described in the Coast Guard alert was not on a cruise ship, it was a US Container ship. It was due to faulty wiring in combination with a surge protector. The alert makes recommendations but specifically says it is not mandating any action. Unless the Coast Guard and or the Cruise line prohibits them they are not a no no. As far as surge protectors at home being nearly worthless, that is not true. I used to believe they were worthless. Then one day I decided to try plugging my TV and stereo into one, as I was having very faint interference in my sound. The surge protector immediately stopped whatever that issue was. I also have to believe that a cruise ship is wired differently than a container ship, as it is made for idiots like us passengers to be on, and we all plug in things we shouldn't and yet they all sail just fine. I'd think they have specialized systems in place just to protect us from ourselves, something more than a TSA agent looking at an x ray machine in between not paying attention and chatting with their colleagues. Also I've seen the crew use power strips to plug in things such as in the grand staircase lobby on S class ships to run the lighting and music at night. I can see where "hypothetically" something may be different with regards to electric on a ship and grounding, but in practice and reality, it seems to be a non-issue, and in the event of fires that happen, who's to say it wasn't the surge protector or its wiring or plug itself at fault. That such fires are so rare, and so many people are in actuality using them, says something. Maybe Carnival has some older ships with older technology, and therefore has such rules of prohibition in place for that reason. Based on my reading of the Coast Guard Directives, I'd say Crusie lines likely have a daily routine check of the "grounding status" of their electric systems, that ensures such anomalies and interruptions as discussed won't come into play. Edited August 26, 2015 by cle-guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sptrout Posted August 26, 2015 #19 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If it is a known fire hazard Celebrity should ban it. They have not, at least not yet. The situation described in the Coast Guard alert was not on a cruise ship, it was a US Container ship. It was due to faulty wiring in combination with a surge protector. The alert makes recommendations but specifically says it is not mandating any action. Unless the Coast Guard and or the Cruise line prohibits them they are not a no no. As far as surge protectors at home being nearly worthless, that is not true. All ships are wired basically the same as described by the USCG Electrical Engineer who has 40 years experience on ships including 4 on cruise ships. My previous link took you straight to my post, which is not what I intended. It was supposed to be the starting point of a long discussion. Following are two better links, but I recommend that all read the entire thread. There is no reason to bring a surge protector on a ship under any circumstances, they are dangerous, and useless. Note that the engineer specifically mentioned that there are no surge protectors on cruise ships, in the control rooms, or even for the casino slot machines. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=47180579&postcount=45 http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=47180691&postcount=46 Just because Celebrity is not following USCG recommendations does not mean that you will enjoy swimming in the middle of the ocean while your ship burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sptrout Posted August 26, 2015 #20 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I used to believe they were worthless. Then one day I decided to try plugging my TV and stereo into one, as I was having very faint interference in my sound. The surge protector immediately stopped whatever that issue was. That noise that went MIA when your unit was plugged into a surge protector was reduced by either a noise filter, or it eliminated a ground loop. The actual surge protection devices were sound asleep under those conditions. They only come into play (hopefully) when there is a large spike in the incoming AC voltage. They have no effect on audio system noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted August 26, 2015 Author #21 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hey listen guys, a simple yes or no would have done! Didn't mean to open a can of worms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilot70D Posted August 26, 2015 #22 Share Posted August 26, 2015 OK, here are two products which we have used frequently for a couple of years now including multiple cruises on Celebrity. I bought these products on Amazon and I have included a link for each product on Amazon's website. I have no financial interest in these products or Amazon or Celebrity for that matter except to pay Celebrity scandalous amounts of money so that we can live aboard one of their boats for a couple of weeks at a time. First, is a Photive 50 Watt 6 Port USB Desktop Rapid Charger. Intelligent USB Charger with Auto Detect Technology. http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LMIA9L4/ref=s9_al_bw_g107_i2 This stayed in our cabin. It occupied one outlet and let's you charge up to six devices with USB capability at one time. When we aren't cruising this unit stays on my desk and has been in daily use for over two years now. Second, is a BESTEK® Portable 6A Max Travel Adapter & Power Converter Voltage 220V to 110V with Interchangeable UK/US/AU/EU Plugs. http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MSTG93S/ref=s9_hps_bw_g23_i1 There several European type power plugs in each cabin and located throughout the ship. This compact set of adapters gives you the ability to utilize those outlets with U.S. type devices. It provides three U.S. type outlets plus four USB charging ports. It works and we used this all over the ship without anyone saying anything to us. There are many different manufacturers out there producing similar products to these. I just happened to have purchased these two and found out that they work and work well. We wouldn't cruise without them. Hope this is helpful info. Now go enjoy that new found power on your next =X= cruise. :):):):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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