bajathree Posted October 17, 2015 #51 Share Posted October 17, 2015 She is looking good all light up for the night:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartgrove Posted October 17, 2015 #52 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Is dry dock needed for those repairs???? Reading through the ship's history, it appears that the Azipod V units have been a problem a number of times. Difficult to do maintenance while at a pier but maybe possible for the propeller seal by divers. The latest XO version has provisions for doing maintenance without dry docking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #53 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Reading through the ship's history, it appears that the Azipod V units have been a problem a number of times. Difficult to do maintenance while at a pier but maybe possible for the propeller seal by divers. The latest XO version has provisions for doing maintenance without dry docking. The problems you mention are with the thrust bearing. The reported oil leakage and the fact that they booked the ship immediately leads me to the seal problems. Divers can usually get these fixed. The most common prop shaft seal failure is fishing line getting entangled in the seal. They may be able to cut the line out and reseat the seal. If the seal itself is damaged, sometimes they can bond a new seal in place without pulling the prop. Sometimes the prop will have to be pulled, but the divers can do this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJessica Posted October 18, 2015 #54 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So what does this all mean? Will we be able to leave tomorrow? Any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #55 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Not to worry, she is good and fully capable of maneuvering, they were forced to be tugged in once they reached US waters by USCG.You can clearly hear this on the radio chatter Since the azipod is steering as well as propulsion, it is standard practice for the USCG to require a tug escort when there has been a reduction in steering redundancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #56 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So what does this all mean? Will we be able to leave tomorrow? Any updates? Short of being a diver on the site, it's hard to say. You may be delayed a day or two, but I don't see a drydock or cancellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heythereyou Posted October 18, 2015 #57 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Short of being a diver on the site, it's hard to say. You may be delayed a day or two, but I don't see a drydock or cancellation. well no dry dock is sounding quite good. A 1 day delay OK but 2 day delay we are only a 6 night cruise but would be much better then a cancel. Can you speculate at all on when You think we might hear what the decision is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercruiser Posted October 18, 2015 #58 Share Posted October 18, 2015 http://porttampawebcam.com/ I have the volume turned up and they're talking about moving the ship somewhat. Not sure exactly what they're up to, but the divers were brought up a little while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted October 18, 2015 #59 Share Posted October 18, 2015 They currently have the dive team working on the azipod. Looks like they pulled some seals off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJessica Posted October 18, 2015 #60 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ugh! Is this positive news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercruiser Posted October 18, 2015 #61 Share Posted October 18, 2015 NCL told my TA just a few minutes ago that our departure is still scheduled to go on time. I try not to think about Dr.House (tv show) who always said that "everybody lies." :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawniepoo Posted October 18, 2015 #62 Share Posted October 18, 2015 NCL told my TA just a few minutes ago that our departure is still scheduled to go on time. I try not to think about Dr.House (tv show) who always said that "everybody lies." :) Haha Darn that Dr. House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #63 Share Posted October 18, 2015 They currently have the dive team working on the azipod. Looks like they pulled some seals off. Those look like azimuth seal retainers. If they have them off already, they should be good for departure tomorrow evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Don Posted October 18, 2015 #64 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Haha Darn that Dr. House He also said, "Rules are helpful guidelines for stupid people". But don't use that if you get caught breaking any. It doesn't inspire sympathy for some reason :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskincruiser Posted October 18, 2015 #65 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thank you bajathree and chengkp75 for the info! 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted October 18, 2015 #66 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Progress continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Girl Posted October 18, 2015 #67 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thank you bajathree and chengkp75 for the info! 😊 AMEN!!!! Thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJessica Posted October 18, 2015 #68 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Any updates? Does it look like we are all set to leave tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #69 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Given the photos from baja3, I would say they are well on the way, as taking it apart is always tougher. They may still be working while you're boarding, but should be done for sail away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Don Posted October 18, 2015 #70 Share Posted October 18, 2015 These azipods have been so troublesome. It reminds me of that car everyone has had when you must decide whether to continue to pour money into repairs, get a new engine or get a new car. NCL must be frustrated with this money suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PropulsionGuru Posted October 18, 2015 #71 Share Posted October 18, 2015 These azipods have been so troublesome. It reminds me of that car everyone has had when you must decide whether to continue to pour money into repairs, get a new engine or get a new car. NCL must be frustrated with this money suck. It's only on the Star, its bad luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #72 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) It's only on the Star, its bad luck The Star has had the most for NCL, but I think there have been others, and every line has had several ships with pod problems. And a seal failure is common to straight shaft and prop systems as well. Edited October 18, 2015 by chengkp75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PropulsionGuru Posted October 18, 2015 #73 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The Star has had the most for NCL, but I think there have been others, and every line has had several ships with pod problems. Agreed, but pods are not always at fault if the maintenance is not followed as required. Also you have to look at it this way; Electrical podded cruse ships consist of ~90% from ABB Azipods, just a few are Mermaid and rest fixed shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #74 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Agreed, but pods are not always at fault if the maintenance is not followed as required. Also you have to look at it this way; Electrical podded cruse ships consist of ~90% from ABB Azipods, just a few are Mermaid and rest fixed shaft. My feeling about the pod problems is that the demand for size/power has always exceeded the metallurgical design of the thrust bearings. And the design of the early pods that do not allow bearing change from inside was a major mistake. The bearings are getting better but failures still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawniepoo Posted October 18, 2015 #75 Share Posted October 18, 2015 My feeling about the pod problems is that the demand for size/power has always exceeded the metallurgical design of the thrust bearings. And the design of the early pods that do not allow bearing change from inside was a major mistake. The bearings are getting better but failures still happen. Well, duh. Everyone knows that ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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