DFWJean&Bill Posted November 9, 2015 #1 Share Posted November 9, 2015 We are reading of the financial issues in Puerto Rico, mentions "Government Services" may shut down in December. Will this affect any of us (port/city) flying in/out, staying in Puerto Rico for cruises? What exactly is run by the government there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted November 9, 2015 #2 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) We are reading of the financial issues in Puerto Rico, mentions "Government Services" may shut down in December. Will this affect any of us (port/city) flying in/out, staying in Puerto Rico for cruises? What exactly is run by the government there? I would assume airports:D I doubt they would choose them to shutdown though:) Edited November 9, 2015 by bouhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted November 9, 2015 #3 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Puerto Rico is in a financial mess. If they are smart they won't do anything that interfers with the flow of tourist dollars. Of course, if they were smart maybe they wouldn't be in the mess that they are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 9, 2015 #4 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I am a local. Airport and ports will not be affected by any possible government shutdown. SJU airport is actually managed by a private company. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted November 9, 2015 #5 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I am a local. Airport and ports will not be affected by any possible government shutdown. SJU airport is actually managed by a private company. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who pays the company that manages the airport? And I am not asking that in any sarcastic way. I'm just curious. Edited November 9, 2015 by Ocean Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonCruiser Posted November 9, 2015 #6 Share Posted November 9, 2015 One would think a govt shutdown would close down El Yunque and the forts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 9, 2015 #7 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Who pays the company that manages the airport? And I am not asking that in any sarcastic way. I'm just curious. Ok dont worry. Actually the private company is managing the airport since 2013. Government leased the property for 40 years to manage and upgrade the airport. I am not an expert in this matter but I though that the private one get his income from airlines and then do lease payments to Government. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 9, 2015 #8 Share Posted November 9, 2015 One would think a govt shutdown would close down El Yunque and the forts. Government shut down would not affect "completely" health, security and tourism services. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonCruiser Posted November 9, 2015 #9 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Who pays the company that manages the airport? And I am not asking that in any sarcastic way. I'm just curious. This does a nice breakdown. http://www.airportimprovement.com/content/story.php?article=00586 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 9, 2015 #10 Share Posted November 9, 2015 This does a nice breakdown.http://www.airportimprovement.com/content/story.php?article=00586 A complete breakdown. Thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdchiefthom Posted November 10, 2015 #11 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I was in San Juan over the holidays in 1995-6 and remember going to El Morro for a tour and it was shut down because of the U.S. Federal shut down. As I recall, there were still flights coming and going, but it was kind of a shock to see our government shut down.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lard Greystoke Posted November 10, 2015 #12 Share Posted November 10, 2015 El Yunque and the forts are federal. PR is territory. Territory shutdown doesn't equal federal shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator of the Seas Posted November 10, 2015 #13 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Who pays the company that manages the airport? And I am not asking that in any sarcastic way. I'm just curious. Actually, the company that operates the airport pays the government. It makes money from user fees and the government gets their cut from the operating company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 10, 2015 #14 Share Posted November 10, 2015 El Yunque and the forts are federal. PR is territory. Territory shutdown doesn't equal federal shutdown. You are right! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator of the Seas Posted November 10, 2015 #15 Share Posted November 10, 2015 People, what's going on in Puerto Rico is a game of brinkmanship between our lousy government and the various bondholder groups that own our debt. The government has been threatening a shut down as a clumsy leverage tool. In reality, the local main government is barely living hand to mouth, but it can't really shut down. The money is still coming in, just not in the volume that the bureaucrats would like. But it's nothing that the casual or occasional visitor to the island will notice. The island's top two attractions - The San Juan National Historic Site and the El Yunque National Forest - are run by the United States federal government. The Ports Authority is supposed to be self sustaining, and at least - as you have read - the main airport - SJU - is operated by a private company. Security at the airports and ports is overseen by the feds. Cleaning and maintenance of most roads and public areas are mostly done by the municipal governments. Security and emergency services are not threatened. The federal government also keeps a sizable law enforcement apparatus on the island. Customs and immigration and border enforcement is the responsibility of the feds. Puerto Rico banks are U.S.-chartered banks and insured by the FDIC. The ATMs will not run out of money and your credit cards will continue to work. Puerto Ricans, in general, are taking this manufactured crisis in stride. There are no mass demonstrations, rioting or looting. Life is pretty much normal, as normal as it can get under a lousy government. Just like in Chicago, Hawaii, California or New York. Relax and enjoy your vacation or cruise. P.S. - Puerto Rico's debt problem. Our debt is about 70% of GDP. Research what the U.S. debt is. Well over a 100% of GDP. Also look at the debt of many states, especially Illinois, New York and California. See Puerto Rico and look what is looming for the United States as a whole in the near future. At least Puerto Rico has a head start in dealing with the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 10, 2015 #16 Share Posted November 10, 2015 People, what's going on in Puerto Rico is a game of brinkmanship between our lousy government and the various bondholder groups that own our debt. The government has been threatening a shut down as a clumsy leverage tool. In reality, the local main government is barely living hand to mouth, but it can't really shut down. The money is still coming in, just not in the volume that the bureaucrats would like. But it's nothing that the casual or occasional visitor to the island will notice. The island's top two attractions - The San Juan National Historic Site and the El Yunque National Forest - are run by the United States federal government. The Ports Authority is supposed to be self sustaining, and at least - as you have read - the main airport - SJU - is operated by a private company. Security at the airports and ports is overseen by the feds. Cleaning and maintenance of most roads and public areas are mostly done by the municipal governments. Security and emergency services are not threatened. The federal government also keeps a sizable law enforcement apparatus on the island. Customs and immigration and border enforcement is the responsibility of the feds. Puerto Rico banks are U.S.-chartered banks and insured by the FDIC. The ATMs will not run out of money and your credit cards will continue to work. Puerto Ricans, in general, are taking this manufactured crisis in stride. There are no mass demonstrations, rioting or looting. Life is pretty much normal, as normal as it can get under a lousy government. Just like in Chicago, Hawaii, California or New York. Relax and enjoy your vacation or cruise. P.S. - Puerto Rico's debt problem. Our debt is about 70% of GDP. Research what the U.S. debt is. Well over a 100% of GDP. Also look at the debt of many states, especially Illinois, New York and California. See Puerto Rico and look what is looming for the United States as a whole in the near future. At least Puerto Rico has a head start in dealing with the issue. Excellent explanation. "Nada mas con el testigo" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted November 10, 2015 #17 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I appreciate the info on the airport as well as Aviator's post. Puerto Rico is a beautiful country with a great heritage, culture and people. I always look forward to returning. I hope all works out. Edited November 10, 2015 by Ocean Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Cruisers Posted November 10, 2015 #18 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I appreciate the info on the airport as well as Aviator's post. Puerto Rico is a beautiful country with a great heritage, culture and people. I always look forward to returning. I hope all works out. Thanks, we hope so! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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