Oasis of the Seas - smoking on balcony

[docd]

So, it's OK to smoke on your balcony, but share a sip of a drink on your drink package and you should be hog tied and thrown overboard YOU CRIMINAL!

 

Love the logic on here.

[aloha43]

Are smokers responsible for other cruisers health problems ? Did we cause them? What about the COPDer who can't breathe if a whiff of smoke goes by? Did WE cause that? If a person has such issues, why do they go to places where there is potential exposure? If cruising is the choice, go on a line like Celebrity (and stay away from their tiny smoking area)

 

The problem with your question is that we ARE going on a cruise that says NO SMOKING ON THE BALCONIES. So if someone is smoking on the balcony, then yes there is exposure.

 

That is ridiculous.

[aloha43]

As to answers to posts 142 and 143, you missed my point:(

 

I'm saying we are not responsible to the cruiser who willfully books a cruise with a debilitating health issue already established. We, as a fellow cruiser, did not cause that problem just because we are on the same ship. Their illness was developed well before we encounter each other.

 

I never said that the smokers CAUSED the debilitating health issue. I was saying that when they smoke on their balcony when they are not supposed to, that it contributes to the problem, which is not fair.

[ilionite65]

People need to stop treating smokers like criminals , it's not illegal to smoke and smokers are not second class citizens.

Funny how the government has no problem collecting million upon millions of dollars in taxes from smokers.

 

Cruise lines should make one side of the ships balconies smoking , you can be a non smoker and book the smoking side or book the non smoking side. Just think how much sooner people would book their cruise in order to get the location they want.

I'm more bothered by the smoke in the casino than someone's smoke on my balcony.

 

I'm a non smoker !

 

The problem with this is that not necessarily one half of the balcony patrons will be smokers. Who then would be in the remaining balconies?

[aloha43]

Life isn't fair... Get over it.

 

Wow. Way to care.

 

And I thought I said that in the nicest, clearest way possible.....

[Big_G]

So, it's OK to smoke on your balcony, but share a sip of a drink on your drink package and you should be hog tied and thrown overboard YOU CRIMINAL!

 

Love the logic on here.

 

Great straw man come back. Hyperbolize much? I try to stay out of the smoking threads but this was too good to resist. :D

[christi1805]

I am a RCI shareholder and care about rising shares.

2 weeks ago on the Allure TA I reported 2 different smart smokers on their balconies that affected my wellbeing. Although the smart guys tried to hide in the depth of their balconies my call for security was successful. As they were repeat smokers on this cruise I was glad RCI could make some 2x250$ profit from the smart guys.

[CaribSailor]

I am a RCI shareholder and care about rising shares.

 

2 weeks ago on the Allure TA I reported 2 different smart smokers on their balconies that affected my wellbeing. Although the smart guys tried to hide in the depth of their balconies my call for security was successful. As they were repeat smokers on this cruise I was glad RCI could make some 2x250$ profit from the smart guys.

 

 

So what? Do you want an apple or something?

[Charger2008]

Life isn't fair... Get over it.

 

While your statement about life is quite true, the fact remains, smoking on the balconies is prohibited by Royal Caribbean. Therefore, the SMOKERS need to "get over it" and quit smoking in places that it is not allowed. How's that? Does that work for ya? :D

[Cabansail]

I thought Trolls lived under bridges.

 

Apparently they like to cruise too.

[CaribSailor]

While your statement about life is quite true, the fact remains, smoking on the balconies is prohibited by Royal Caribbean. Therefore, the SMOKERS need to "get over it" and quit smoking in places that it is not allowed. How's that? Does that work for ya? :D

 

 

I personally could careless. I don't smoke and it doesn't bother me when others do. And if you think the smokers will get over well..... Think again...

 

Does what work for me? And how's what the weather? Quite nice actually about mid 80s and high clouds..

[Charger2008]

I personally could careless. I don't smoke and it doesn't bother me when others do. And if you think the smokers will get over well..... Think again...

 

Does what work for me? And how's what the weather? Quite nice actually about mid 80s and high clouds..

 

People say they could care less when, logically, they mean they couldn’t care less.

 

The phrase "I couldn’t care less" originated in Britain and made its way to the United States in the 1950s. The phrase "I could care less" appeared in the US about a decade later.

 

In the early 1990s, the well-known Harvard professor and language writer Stephen Pinker argued that the way most people say could care less—the way they emphasize the words—implies they are being ironic or sarcastic. Other linguists have argued that the type of sound at the end of "couldn’t" is naturally dropped by sloppy or slurring speakers.

 

Regardless of the reason people say they could care less, it is one of the more common language peeves because of its illogical nature. To say you could care less means you have a bit of caring left, which is not what the speakers seem to intend. The proper "couldn’t care less" is still the dominant form in print, but "could care less" has been steadily gaining ground since its appearance in the 1960s. -

 

See more at: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/could-care-less-versus-couldnt-care-less#sthash.tmc6acQQ.dpuf

[KsucAts]

People say they could care less when, logically, they mean they couldn’t care less.

 

The phrase "I couldn’t care less" originated in Britain and made its way to the United States in the 1950s. The phrase "I could care less" appeared in the US about a decade later.

 

In the early 1990s, the well-known Harvard professor and language writer Stephen Pinker argued that the way most people say could care less—the way they emphasize the words—implies they are being ironic or sarcastic. Other linguists have argued that the type of sound at the end of "couldn’t" is naturally dropped by sloppy or slurring speakers.

 

Regardless of the reason people say they could care less, it is one of the more common language peeves because of its illogical nature. To say you could care less means you have a bit of caring left, which is not what the speakers seem to intend. The proper "couldn’t care less" is still the dominant form in print, but "could care less" has been steadily gaining ground since its appearance in the 1960s. -

 

See more at: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/could-care-less-versus-couldnt-care-less#sthash.tmc6acQQ.dpuf

 

Thanks for putting that here. I know it is a bit off topic, but it drives me absolutely nuts to see "could care less". My other peeve is "should of" instead of "should have". I don't mind typos - especially on message boards, but misusing those words or phrases bugs me.

[TheTruthCanHurt]

Ok, after watching this thread for a while... I have come to the conclusion that it is not about who is right and who is wrong.

 

1. Smoking is not allowed so anyone smoking on a balcony is wrong. That point is indisputable.

 

What is really comes down to is that the world is full of self entitled people that think the rules dont apply to them and that they will do whatever they want, and don't really care about the consequences or how it affects other people. Whether it's smoking on the balcony, wearing wife beater and shorts to the MDR, cutting in lines. It does not really matter.

 

Until the ship or each individual ship decides to enforce their own rules, the people that don't care will continue to do what they want with no regard for anyone but themselves until they are reprimanded and dealt with by the ship. (if that even happens)

 

It makes me sad that people in this world care so little for the people around them, but I am in no way shocked... We see it every single day, I think we just become more aware of it on a floating city because we are more confined...

 

Just my thoughts. So troll, no troll, right or wrong. Bad people will do bad things until someone comes along and prevents it.

[pseudoware]

 

What is really comes down to is that the world is full of self entitled people that think the rules dont apply to them and that they will do whatever they want, and don't really care about the consequences or how it affects other people. Whether it's smoking on the balcony, wearing wife beater and shorts to the MDR, cutting in lines. It does not really matter.

it.

 

Smoking on balconies is prohibited and affect the well-being of others. MDR attire are suggested guidelines and affect the delicate sensibilities of some. Big difference.

 

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[TheTruthCanHurt]

Smoking on balconies is prohibited and affect the well-being of others. MDR attire are suggested guidelines and affect the delicate sensibilities of some. Big difference.

 

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Not really, it speaks to a persons character. But if you like. We can go this route,

 

sneaking liquor on board, bringing flat irons,bringing water onboard, bringing power strips...

all not allowed. so where do you draw the line? when is ok and not ok to follow the rules?

[TubbyMrT]

I wonder how many non smokers avoid the casino ? Like I've said I'm a non smoker but still go to the casino for a little...talk about smoke:eek:

 

I like to gamble. I check out the casino a couple of times during my trip. If the smoke is unbearable in the casino, I simply take the money back home with me. 90% of the time, there is too much smoke. Their loss, not mine.

 

I avoid people who smell of BO or cigarettes. They stink, but they can not smell it of themselves.

[BillOh]

I like to gamble. I check out the casino a couple of times during my trip. If the smoke is unbearable in the casino, I simply take the money back home with me. 90% of the time, there is too much smoke. Their loss, not mine.

 

I avoid people who smell of BO or cigarettes. They stink, but they can not smell it of themselves.

 

This thread has gone far enough that I feel even less guilty, than normal, hijacking it, but I agree completely. This is one area RC has tried something, but they haven't implemented it fleet wide. Certain ships had no smoking nights in the casino and those were formal nights. I don't know if they stopped doing that on the original ships or if any of them still do this? If it was available I would use it more, but RC is only losing $50 to $100 if I don't go in the casino.

[Midwestgal]

I will end with this, bottom line smoking is prohibited on your balcony so people shouldn't do it.

It doesn't matter how right or wrong it is it's the rules and is in your cruise contract.

I do feel the lines could find some type of solution to this by making either on side of the ship balconies smoking or make the farthest back balconies smoking, however I doubt this will ever happen.

[Thetrail]

So here's my problem with OP and all the smoking threads.

 

Everyone ignores the fact that the ship is burning cheap diesel that wouldn't be allowed to be burned anywhere else in the continental US because of all the crap that comes out of the exhaust. If the relatively small amount of cigarette smoke you are "attacked" by bothers you so much how in the world DOESN'T the exhaust from the ship effect you the same way. How do you board the cruise ship in the first place thru the haze of diesel exhaust around the ship caused by the ship itself and the multitudes of semi's and buses emptying and reloading it on a weekly basis?

 

RCCL allows smoking on their ships. RCCL has a bunch of rules about smoking and other things. If you have ever been on a cruise you KNOW people break all kinds of these rules. Chair hogs, seat saving, smuggling alcohol on board. There are just about as many threads about bringing water on board as there are about smoking. What advice are those folks given when they ask? Sure bring it on, it's against the rules, but RCCL doesn't enforce them.

 

People are going to break the rules, smoking and other wise. RCCL is going to look the other way when they do. Either stop cruising on RCCL or get over it.

 

Here OP, let me help you out, you don't need to trouble yourself with finding an email address to complain to:

 

Dear OP,

 

We are sorry to hear about your bad experience on SHIP NAME during your cruise on the week of DATE. Your business is very important to us and we strive to provide a great CURRENT MARKETING STRATEGY VERBAGE to everyone.

 

You are correct in stating that COMPLAINT is against Royal Caribbean policy, all ship board personnel are trained to handle COMPLAINT according to corporate guidelines. Please let me offer my sincerest apologies to you that COMPLAINT caused you such distress. I will forward your concerns to DEPT MANAGER so that your concerns can be discussed with the staff aboard SHIP NAME so this issue doesn't reoccur in the future.

 

Sincerely

 

STAMPED COMPANY OFFICER'S SIGNATURE

Almost laughable...."a haze of diesel smoke surrounding the ship", one of the dumbest comments I've heard on CC in quite sometime.:rolleyes: The OP had a concern, it wasn't addressed period. Sometimes RCL really does enforce the rules other times not so much. So to be fair your post is more or less irrelevant and childish and that's being nice.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Who Cares?]

A passenger who has issues with tobacco smoke would have an expectation of not being exposed if they avoid the areas where smoking is allowed. They would book their cruise with that knowledge. If then smokers use other areas where it is banned (eg cabins and balconies) then those breaking the rules are responsible for the problems caused.

 

If that is the case, why were there so many threads on CC from non-smokers complaining about smokers on the balcony when it was allowed?

[Thetrail]

A passenger who has issues with tobacco smoke would have an expectation of not being exposed if they avoid the areas where smoking is allowed. They would book their cruise with that knowledge. If then smokers use other areas where it is banned (eg cabins and balconies) then those breaking the rules are responsible for the problems caused.

I actually agree with this 100%.....:D

[berylde]

You can tell the smokers from the non-smokers

[pseudoware]

Non-smokers simply do not want to be around people who cancer-up.

 

It's comical how some try to justify cancer guy's "right" to expose others to his toxicity, because it's always been that way.

 

Screw you, cancer guy. Go kill yourself w/your cancer sticks in a vacuum so others don't have to breathe your filth.

 

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Edited November 14, 2015 by pseudoware