Muster question

[Schoifmom]

No, I just meant that they're (unfortunately) not standardized. Scanning cards would have been an ideal way to know if everyone showed up or not. It was mainly frustrating because of all the disorganization/confusion.

 

They scanned cards, but it's not terribly effective, it seems. As they called out names, there were quite a few that were sitting there that didn't get their cards scanned. We had to wait as they called out the names of those who hadn't scanned their cards until they ran through the list at least twice.

[75Vette]

Just got off the Breeze. They scanned every card and then called names of persons that were not there. Then we waited and waited for them to arrive. I am hoping when people realize they must attend the muster drill and get to the musters stations on time it will be an improvement or when Carnival imposes some type of penalty for "no shows".

[coevan]

Still have no idea what to do in the event of an emergency on the Victory. I could not hear half of what was said during that muster. Couldn't even have found my way back to that muster station where I think they said to meet in the event of an emergency, but who the heck really knows?

 

Clearly all musters aren't created equal.

 

 

your muster station and life boat location are on the back of your cabin door

[chengkp75]

Still have no idea what to do in the event of an emergency on the Victory. I could not hear half of what was said during that muster. Couldn't even have found my way back to that muster station where I think they said to meet in the event of an emergency, but who the heck really knows?

 

Clearly all musters aren't created equal.

 

WITHIN TWENTY-FOUR HOURS???????

 

Oh they can come find me afterwards and make me sit (comfortably) through a longer version of it, then! They have plenty of time.

 

The requirement to hold a drill within 24 hours of departure was changed subsequent to the Costa Concordia sinking, such that the drill is mandatory prior to sailing.

 

As for "boycotting" the drill, that would have absolutely no effect, except to delay the muster and delay departure, so that's your decision. It is not the cruise line's decision on when or where to hold the muster, it is by international regulation. Regulations require muster to be "as close to the boats as practicable", which means on deck, unless there is insufficient space on the outside deck to have everyone mustered, and still have access to walk past a muster station. Newer ships have been designed with smaller outside decks, since this area does not generate revenue, so the muster stations must be located inside, in areas that meet the specific design requirements of a muster station.

 

As to knowing what to do in an emergency, I hate to be blunt, but the person most responsible for your safety is the one looking back at you in the mirror. You should make it your business to know where the muster station is, and how to get there, preferably from anywhere on the ship. If you have sailed on the same ship several times, and know how to get from your cabin to the muster station, drill yourself in how to get there from the buffet, if there is a fire somewhere in between. At muster, show up, shut up. That is all you really need to know. The rest is usually some safety items that don't apply in an emergency (don't throw things over the side, etc), or are about the ship or the cruise.

 

The regulations require the passengers to be at their muster stations, be accounted for, and for there to be either a demonstration of donning the lifejacket, or a video available at all times on the tv on how to don the lifejacket.

 

The largest impediment to an orderly muster is noisy and inconsiderate passengers. This is the only time the crew whose duty is to run the muster stations actually get to deal with obnoxious and inattentive passengers, so this is training time for them as well, and many of them are "front line" hotel staff who don't want to antagonize the passengers whose DSC they depend on for their income.

 

Most of the lines are going to some form of scanning to ensure attendance, but again, technology can fail, and they may have to revert to old school in an emergency.

 

As for comfort, I have little sympathy about this issue. You are training for an emergency situation that may be life threatening. The way to drill effectively is to make it as realistic as possible, and if that includes heat, noise, sun, and smells, so be it. I've done weekly fire and boat drills for 42 years, I'm 64 years old, and our drills typically last from 1-1.5 hours long.

[stevefrisco]

Then the ship would not be allowed to leave port. I don't know why people make such a big deal about the safety drill.

 

 

How do you know for sure that the ship wouldn't leave port? I think a little brinksmanship would expose the scam.

[bunchesofun]

Muster was slow and agonizing for us despite the new technology. We were standing out in the heat for what seemed like forever while late people were showing up, and they were allowed to show late. My disabled husband almost passed out and had to be escorted inside. I have osteoarthritis and heat sensitivity so it felt like torture. I wish they would do it indoors with ac and seating. Until that happens, we will be anticipating the muster drill with extreme dread when we sail Carnival.

Next cruise speak with guest services about the disabilities muster. It is held inside in one of the lounges and you all get to sit. We had two in our party on mobility scooters and attended that muster drill. Much smaller group too.

[chengkp75]

How do you know for sure that the ship wouldn't leave port? I think a little brinksmanship would expose the scam.

 

Which "scam" would that be?

[candigirl41]

What does this mean? You were allowed to bring one person with you, everyone must attend

 

I was able to bring one person to the disabled area everyone else in my party had to go to the regular muster station.

 

Candi

[Havingfun2010]

As I read this, I begin to remember, my Carnival Cruises. I see not much has changed. A large percent just thinks its for other people, and don't take it seriously. Yet, I don't experience the same issues on other cruise lines. I can't even remember the last time, it took more than 30 minutes.

[Blackjack22]

As I read this, I begin to remember, my Carnival Cruises. I see not much has changed. A large percent just thinks its for other people, and don't take it seriously. Yet, I don't experience the same issues on other cruise lines. I can't even remember the last time, it took more than 30 minutes.

 

Fewer sheeple on CCL and more #woke folks

[ultrafighter]

Riiiight.

[Miami girl123]

My first muster drill was on the Royal Caribbean out of Tampa it was long hot and laborious! When I sailed Carnival liberty in February it was only about 25 minutes needless to say I could not understand anything they were saying but I did understand when they they were finished!

 

 

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[Preacherman46]

Muster was slow and agonizing for us despite the new technology. We were standing out in the heat for what seemed like forever while late people were showing up, and they were allowed to show late. My disabled husband almost passed out and had to be escorted inside. I have osteoarthritis and heat sensitivity so it felt like torture. I wish they would do it indoors with ac and seating. Until that happens, we will be anticipating the muster drill with extreme dread when we sail Carnival.

 

 

 

We have been on Carnival several times and went to a restaurant for the drill.

 

We are going back to Royal C. this January and don’t look forward to standing again.

 

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[coevan]

"My first muster drill was on the Royal Caribbean out of Tampa it was long hot and laborious!"

 

 

Did they make you work during the drill? Standing or sitting in one spot is not laborious, annoying, boring, tedious, quite frankly, yes it's an annoying 1/2 hour or so. Some of the descriptions of the drill are far over the top. Fainting, throwing up, collapsing, dizziness, and any other malady you can think of.

[PrettyPenny7]

"My first muster drill was on the Royal Caribbean out of Tampa it was long hot and laborious!"

 

 

Did they make you work during the drill? Standing or sitting in one spot is not laborious, annoying, boring, tedious, quite frankly, yes it's an annoying 1/2 hour or so. Some of the descriptions of the drill are far over the top. Fainting, throwing up, collapsing, dizziness, and any other malady you can think of.

 

"It wasn't an issue for me, and clearly everyone is just like me! If I don't have a problem with it, no one should!" :rolleyes:

[chengkp75]

"My first muster drill was on the Royal Caribbean out of Tampa it was long hot and laborious!"

 

 

Did they make you work during the drill? Standing or sitting in one spot is not laborious, annoying, boring, tedious, quite frankly, yes it's an annoying 1/2 hour or so. Some of the descriptions of the drill are far over the top. Fainting, throwing up, collapsing, dizziness, and any other malady you can think of.

 

Lots of folks don't know the old military adage of not locking your knees when standing for long periods, especially on steel decks. Locking the knees will close off the blood return from the feet, and can cause frequent passing out, especially in heat.

[peajay84]

Lots of folks don't know the old military adage of not locking your knees when standing for long periods, especially on steel decks. Locking the knees will close off the blood return from the feet, and can cause frequent passing out, especially in heat.

 

Didn't learn this in the military. Learned it in high school choir! "Stand with knees slightly bent and one leg slightly in front of the other"

[Pellaz]

As I read this, I begin to remember, my Carnival Cruises. I see not much has changed. A large percent just thinks its for other people, and don't take it seriously. Yet, I don't experience the same issues on other cruise lines. I can't even remember the last time, it took more than 30 minutes.

 

Perhaps you don't, normally cruise on Royal, but the muster on our last cruise there easily took 40-45 minutes. It was a crowded boat, at full muster capacity, and they weren't using any card-scanning technology. The only good part, was that we happened to be on the shaded side, of the ship.

[Miami girl123]

Didn't learn this in the military. Learned it in high school choir! "Stand with knees slightly bent and one leg slightly in front of the other"

 

 

 

Unfortunately I have arthritis in both knees I cannot be bending them.[emoji849]

 

 

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