NTSB report on DAWN incident

[Capt_BJ]

try this

 

http://members.cox.net/bjokeefe/splash1.wmv

 

note that every seems nice and smooth desipe what are decent sized swells - but typical Pacific 'slow rollers' - then the ship just falls in step with the swells and away we go

[Host CMLA]

We're scheduled to go 'round the Horn next March on Regal Princess, and we are hoping that the Cape lives up to its rough reputation.

I went around Cape Horn in March 2002. The seas weren't as rough as I expected. But hang onto everything you don't want to break when you're west of Chile. Now that's rough water!!!

[shoreguy]

Here is a link to a series of pictures of CCL ship in Rita that shows the effects of pitch.QUOTE]

 

May be a naive question, but do you know who took these pics?

Thanks, SailAways

 

Happy Holidays

 

As I understand they were taken from another CCL ship. Both were at sea to avoid the storm.

[JLC@SD]

Here is a link to a series of pictures of CCL ship in Rita that shows the effects of pitch.

 

http://community.webshots.com/album/463051526fxtCvC

 

 

Thanks for the link to these great pictures. I wonder why they had the lights on.......:rolleyes:

[electricron]

Those WWII destroyers probable dispalcement was around 3,000 tons.

That's not much compared to todays modern 70,000 to 150,000 tons cruise ships.

Seakeeping is one of the few postives from sailing on today's large cruise ships.

[7SeasLover]

We sailed on a cruise line off the coast of Nova Scotia and hit 12-15 foot swells. That was a very scary deal. We also kept getting reports from the captain. The hard swells hit just after dinner around 8 p.m. We pitched and rolled all night long. Needless to say, nobody slept!

 

We hit a storm off the coast of Alaska that caused all of the china to bust through the china cabinet doors. I asked the captain about it the next day at the Captains private party. He said they had a lot of broken China. I told him about our encounter off the coast of Nova Scotia and he said that's a really bad place to be during a storm. Ayup, I tend to agree.

 

Great story. Scary ride. Great photos you guys! Thanks! Make me want to stop cruising? Not a bit. I'll cruise any time! Love it.

[derf5585]

Seakeeping is one of the few postives from sailing on today's large cruise ships.

 

The ability of a vessel to navigate safely at sea for prolonged periods during stormy weather

from

http://www.bartleby.com/61/80/S0188050.html

 

The pressure will vary with respect to the x, y and z direction and is also a function of time.

from

http://illustrations.marin.ntnu.no/hydrodynamics/seakeeping/

 

The seakeeping is enabled by a pair of fin-type stabilizers.

from

http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/vision/

[derf5585]

I wonder why they had the lights on.......:rolleyes:

 

When I was in the USNavy we had to run dark some of the time. As we passed a cruise ship it was lit up like a Xmas Tree. Quite a sight.

[derf5585]

try this

 

When I was in the USNavy. Not known for a smoth ride. The ship I was on added a lot of equipment to the superstructure. In a storm we rolled to 35 Degrees. A record for the ship. Scarry at the time.

[derf5585]

waves tend to come in threes (often described as 'sister" waves).

 

I have failed. I failed to link "Sister Waves". Can I go on?

[derf5585]

Picture is a known fake....:D

 

Evidence?

[Globaliser]

Those WWII destroyers probable dispalcement was around 3,000 tons.

That's not much compared to todays modern 70,000 to 150,000 tons cruise ships.

Seakeeping is one of the few postives from sailing on today's large cruise ships.

That's not comparing like with like. Displacement (traditionally used in respect of military vessels) is a measure of weight. But registered tonnage (commonly used in respect of cruise ships) is a measure of volume.

 

There's no way of calculating one from the other as it depends on too many variables - there's no direct correlation.

 

Neither does size necessarily make good sailing qualities. Today's large cruise ships' ride in heavy weather are rather worse than those of proper ocean liners such as the QE2 and the Norway.

[derf5585]

That's not comparing like with like.

 

Can we at least say that a Cruise Ship is a little bigger and heavier than a Destroyer?

 

Tonnage Definitions

from

http://www.lostatsea.ca/tonnage.htm

 

Length, Weights and Other Trivia

from

http://www.docksidereports.com/boat_specifications.htm

[mtl kid]

the pictures you posted where awesome. How bad is it for passengers durring a storm like you encountered. Does everybody basicly stay in their rooms and are sick. Does gravol help at all.

Thanks a bunch

[derf5585]

Does gravol help at all.

 

Gravol: The ABCs

from

http://corp.aadac.com/other_drugs/the_basics_about_other_drugs/gravol_abcs.asp

 

my chain smoking, alcoholic, pregnant, car driving 6 year old daughter couldn't take them.

from

http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/94q1/gravol.html

[Dolphins]

Can we at least say that a Cruise Ship is a little bigger and heavier than a Destroyer?

 

Good point and one of the reasons that during World War II, three U.S. destroyers were sunk by a Pacific typhoon and another was sunk by an Atlantic hurricane. I can't recall any large cruise ship being sunk by sea conditions? As a submarine veteran, I can attest they are the calmest in a storm, submerged of course. Their accommodations, however, make any cruise ship far more preferable, regardless of the weather.

 

Tonnage Definitions

from

http://www.lostatsea.ca/tonnage.htm

 

Length, Weights and Other Trivia

from

http://www.docksidereports.com/boat_specifications.htm

 

Happy cruising.

[Dolphins]

My reply to derf5585 was inadvertantly inserted in the midst of his thread. My regrets.

[JLC@SD]

Those WWII destroyers probable dispalcement was around 3,000 tons.

That's not much compared to todays modern 70,000 to 150,000 tons cruise ships.

Seakeeping is one of the few postives from sailing on today's large cruise ships.

 

These WWII sailors on the USS Stembell were getting the E Ticket Ride........:)

[derf5585]

These WWII sailors on the USS Stembell were getting the E Ticket Ride........:)

 

Since the 1950s, E Ticket (or E ticket ride) has referred to an unusually thrilling,

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_ticket

 

Magic Kingdom E-Ride Nights (formerly E-Ticket Express)

from

http://www.wdisneyw.co.uk/eticket.html