Jenal2 Posted March 19, 2018 #151 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I would say to the person who is moaning about why not flip flops and tank tops, that some sort of covering on your feet and arm pits will alleviate someone's stink factor. No beach wear cannot be allowed because wet stuff would dampen or damage the seats for the next guest. BUt I say this, if someone wearing very nice shorts in the dining room offends you then you got way to many snotty first world problems for me to associate with you! Please get over yourself!! Thanks for the response. I don’t recall asking you to associate with me but I will just to have get over the fact that you are unwilling to do so. I do find it amusing that people like you get so worked up and apparently believe that I am not permitted to give my opinion on the lack of dress code in the MDR, however it is perfectly fine for you to attack me and tell me what I should and shouldn’t post on this forum. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2bell Posted March 19, 2018 #152 Share Posted March 19, 2018 We like to dress up for dinner. My husband rents a tux from the ship so he doesn’t have to pack a suit. I wear an evening gown on formal nights. We just took four kids from 20-26 with us on a cruise. They all dressed up every night and actually really enjoyed dinner. I wore a dress every night for dinner. I know people say they don’t like to dress up on vacation. Then don’t go the the MDR. Why does the ship need to stop enforcing their dress code for them? They have other options. I wish we had a huge "LIKE" button. I'm with you on this and I really don't understand the "I'm the center of the universe" attitude these days. On a cruise last week, my wife and I decided the first night not to dress up for the rest of the cruise so we didn't go to the MDR out of respect for those that did dress up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TominNC Posted March 19, 2018 #153 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I wish we had a huge "LIKE" button. I'm with you on this and I really don't understand the "I'm the center of the universe" attitude these days. On a cruise last week, my wife and I decided the first night not to dress up for the rest of the cruise so we didn't go to the MDR out of respect for those that did dress up. Now that's ridiculous. Just my opinion, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted March 20, 2018 #154 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Then you need to tell the Chef's because the Main Dining Room is FAR from fine dining. Maybe you would be more comfy in Chops or Giovanni's. The dress suggestion for Chops and Giovanni's is smart casual so I don’t think they would be more comfy at those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffy116 Posted March 20, 2018 #155 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I've never seen such a hot subject as the way people dress in the dining room. It eclipses the smell of smoke from the casino and why you should or shouldn't wear a lanyard. I first cruised when the waiters wore white gloves and you were required to wear a long evening gown. The waiter also lit my cigarette for me and lanyards didn't even exist. Times have changed. The price of a cruise today on a ship like the Allure is less than the price we paid on our first cruise where you could literally sit on the toilet to take your shower before getting into a tux and long gown for dinner. I don't feel the least bit shamed or embarrassed when I get on the elevator with someone in a long gown or tux and they do their best to attempt to look down their nose at me in my slacks and blouse. I own long gowns, and I choose not to bring them on the cruise. We are family of 3 generations who cruise once a year together. We have dinner together each evening, enjoy a good meal that we don't have to cook or clean up and that I really don't have any complaints about. You know the dress code is "suggested" not required and you've seen people in the dining room and that they are not going to be sent away if they don't meet your particular standards before you booked the cruise and before you enter the dining room to go to your table. Live and let live, for crying out loud. Eat the food, talk about your stock portfolio, complain about the poor selection of wine, turn your nose up in the air at the way others are dressed. The cruise line isn't going to change the dress code back to required. The vast majority of the people approve of the relaxed dress code and the cruise line has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 20, 2018 #156 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Thanks for the response. I don’t recall asking you to associate with me but I will just to have get over the fact that you are unwilling to do so. I do find it amusing that people like you get so worked up and apparently believe that I am not permitted to give my opinion on the lack of dress code in the MDR, however it is perfectly fine for you to attack me and tell me what I should and shouldn’t post on this forum. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad using Forums If we are sat together I’ll welcome you, but if my jeans and polo don’t work for you, you can move to another table. You should be able to enjoy yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted March 20, 2018 #157 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I've never seen such a hot subject as the way people dress in the dining room. It eclipses the smell of smoke from the casino and why you should or shouldn't wear a lanyard. I first cruised when the waiters wore white gloves and you were required to wear a long evening gown. The waiter also lit my cigarette for me and lanyards didn't even exist. Times have changed. The price of a cruise today on a ship like the Allure is less than the price we paid on our first cruise where you could literally sit on the toilet to take your shower before getting into a tux and long gown for dinner. I don't feel the least bit ashamed or embarrassed when I get on the elevator with someone in a long gown or tux and they do their best to attempt to look down their nose at me in my slacks and blouse. I own long gowns, and I choose not to bring them on the cruise. We are family of 3 generations who cruise once a year together. We have dinner together each evening, enjoy a good meal that we don't have to cook or clean up and that I really don't have any complaints about. You know the dress code is "suggested" not required and you've seen people in the dining room and that they are not going to be sent away if they don't meet your particular standards before you booked the cruise and before you enter the dining room to go to your table. Live and let live, for crying out loud. Eat the food, talk about your stock portfolio, complain about the poor selection of wine, turn your nose up in the air at the way others are dressed. The cruise line isn't going to change the dress code back to required. The vast majority of the people approve of the relaxed dress code and the cruise line has moved on. Wow. :eek: Interesting cruise history lesson. ;) What year was that? Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2bell Posted March 20, 2018 #158 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Now that's ridiculous. Just my opinion, of course. Thanks for proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 20, 2018 #159 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Thanks for proving my point. What was your point? Seems limiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2bell Posted March 20, 2018 #160 Share Posted March 20, 2018 What was your point? Seems limiting "I'm the center of the universe". Kind of like trying to justify eating while standing in the buffet line...or forcing your way into the elevator before people have a chance to exit...etc,. It's all about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 20, 2018 #161 Share Posted March 20, 2018 "I'm the center of the universe". Kind of like trying to justify eating while standing in the buffet line...or forcing your way into the elevator before people have a chance to exit...etc,. It's all about me. That was the point you were trying to make? It doesn't make any sense. One thing negatively impacts someone else directly, the other has no impact on anyone. I thought you were making a point by not using the service and food you paid for already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2bell Posted March 20, 2018 #162 Share Posted March 20, 2018 That was the point you were trying to make? It doesn't make any sense. One thing negatively impacts someone else directly, the other has no impact on anyone. I thought you were making a point by not using the service and food you paid for already The entire dress up issue has little to do with food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 20, 2018 #163 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The entire dress up issue has little to do with food. Well I'll agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenal2 Posted March 20, 2018 #164 Share Posted March 20, 2018 If we are sat together I’ll welcome you, but if my jeans and polo don’t work for you, you can move to another table. You should be able to enjoy yourself As I have said over and over again, what you wear is not going to affect my enjoyment. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 20, 2018 #165 Share Posted March 20, 2018 As I have said over and over again, what you wear is not going to affect my enjoyment. Sent from my iPad using Forums I don't believe that statement. If what I wear isn't going to impact your enjoyment one way or the other, not sure the reason for your posts the previous day. Seems like you'd enjoy your evening more if we showed up in tuxes and gowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cot427 Posted March 20, 2018 #166 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I think we should start dressing to match the quality of food in the MDR. So baggy, ripped shorts and a tank should be fine, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenal2 Posted March 20, 2018 #167 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I don't believe that statement. If what I wear isn't going to impact your enjoyment one way or the other, not sure the reason for your posts the previous day. Seems like you'd enjoy your evening more if we showed up in tuxes and gowns. I guess you are a mind reader then. I posted my opinion on the lack of dress code. Period. Can you see the future also? If so I’d like to bring you to the casino with me... Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperatelyseekingtony Posted March 20, 2018 #168 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I've never seen such a hot subject as the way people dress in the dining room. It eclipses the smell of smoke from the casino and why you should or shouldn't wear a lanyard. I first cruised when the waiters wore white gloves and you were required to wear a long evening gown. The waiter also lit my cigarette for me and lanyards didn't even exist. Times have changed. The price of a cruise today on a ship like the Allure is less than the price we paid on our first cruise where you could literally sit on the toilet to take your shower before getting into a tux and long gown for dinner. I don't feel the least bit shamed or embarrassed when I get on the elevator with someone in a long gown or tux and they do their best to attempt to look down their nose at me in my slacks and blouse. I own long gowns, and I choose not to bring them on the cruise. We are family of 3 generations who cruise once a year together. We have dinner together each evening, enjoy a good meal that we don't have to cook or clean up and that I really don't have any complaints about. You know the dress code is "suggested" not required and you've seen people in the dining room and that they are not going to be sent away if they don't meet your particular standards before you booked the cruise and before you enter the dining room to go to your table. Live and let live, for crying out loud. Eat the food, talk about your stock portfolio, complain about the poor selection of wine, turn your nose up in the air at the way others are dressed. The cruise line isn't going to change the dress code back to required. The vast majority of the people approve of the relaxed dress code and the cruise line has moved on.Very well said Material Boy 305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestgal Posted March 20, 2018 #169 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just to ask....can kids , young men 12 years of age where nice shorts and a polo to dinner ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 20, 2018 #170 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just to ask....can kids , young men 12 years of age where nice shorts and a polo to dinner ? No problem, as long as the shorts are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerja Posted March 20, 2018 #171 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just to ask....can kids , young men 12 years of age where nice shorts and a polo to dinner ?I have packed a couple pair of dress shorts for my son. But I also have a couple pairs of nice golf pants for him. I am excited for him to dress up a little. He lives in athletic shorts, pants, and t-shirts. Sent from my LG-LS993 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted March 20, 2018 #172 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Hmm Here I have had it wrong all along. I thought the food made the meal? Silly me!! Really?? Does a steak taste different when wearing long pants? Really? Does someone wearing a nice pair of shorts and a shirt affect the taste of your meal? Really Are you truly going to let someone wearing a pair of pants 12-14 inches shorter than yours affect your cruise?? Really? How pathetic does a person have to be to allow this to happen because of the length of a pair of pants?? I think it is great for people to dress up if they want, including kids, BUT something tells me their meal would have tasted the same either way. And as another poster said(and I have as well), the MDR food quality truly does not require dressing up if one does not want to.PLease get over yourself, no one is that important!! Have a wonderful day and a better next cruise :-) Dude - I think the original poster was having some fun at the expense of the fashion police. It was a parody of another post who claimed their adult "kids" actually enjoyed their meal because they dressed up. (Look at his other posts - he's on your side) Would I be allowed for dinner in the MDR if I wore this? Having put on a few pounds around the gut, I would feel more comfortable wearing this for dinner. Maybe change to black socks, and black leather shoes? Someone mentioned eating at McDonald”s. I actually like eating at Denny’s for Chicken Fried Steak, mashed potatoes, and cornbread all smothered with white country gravy. My all time favorite. Hope I can get me some of that on the cruise. Edited March 20, 2018 by Kingofcool1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rala Posted March 20, 2018 #173 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Shirt and tie (no jacket) screams Assistant Store Manager Sport coat and polo (no tie) looks more upscale to me. More "resort casual" Just my opinion. FWIW, mine , too :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckfred Posted March 20, 2018 #174 Share Posted March 20, 2018 A. It's just not a formal night, unless there is at least one man in a dinner jacket and kilt. Depending on the cruise, I've seen as many as five men in kilts. B. I wish RC would get rid of smart casual. The idea of a sport coat and tie is not casual. When it came to high school dances, homecoming and Valentine's were semi-formal (coat and tie, suit or sport coat for boys and cocktail dresses for girls), while prom was formal (tuxes and evening gowns). C. Perhaps RC should go with casual, business casual, and business formal. Casual is casual. Business casual is what one should wear to an office, a shirt with a collar and Dockers. (Don't get me started on people who think ripped jeans and a 10-year-old concert shirt is business casual.) Business formal is coat and tie. Depending on the office it might be a suit, or simply a sport coat. D. I did notice in London that business casual is dressier than in the U.S. I saw a lot of men on the Tube during morning rush wearing suits with no ties, or wearing the vest and pants of a 3-piece suit with a tie, but not coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 20, 2018 #175 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I guess you are a mind reader then. I posted my opinion on the lack of dress code. Period. Can you see the future also? If so I’d like to bring you to the casino with me... Sent from my iPad using Forums I’m not a mind reader, I just can tell when someone’s message is disingenuous. You say someone dressing down won’t impact your dinner, the correlation is someone dressing up won’t impact it either, the reality is you’d feel that enhances your experience. It’s not a bad thing. I was giving you benefit of the doubt and helping you make your case but if you just want to be snarky go right ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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