goosemay Posted April 17, 2019 #1 Share Posted April 17, 2019 It appears as though our cruise next week might be the final trip to Cuba. Prez just banned travel starting May 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 17, 2019 #2 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Will that mean that Armonia can't continue to sail from Miami to Cuba, or is just that Americans can't cruise on her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosemay Posted April 17, 2019 Author #3 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I think MSC is scrambling right now. News just came today. Politics...ugh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted April 17, 2019 #4 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I am always unimpressed with politicians, I'll be even less impressed if they ruin my holiday 🤬 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tymike Posted April 17, 2019 #5 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Really??? I just can't....... I've been looking forward to Cuba for months. Sailing in July (maybe)... Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGJones Posted April 17, 2019 #6 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, tymike said: Really??? I just can't....... I've been looking forward to Cuba for months. Sailing in July (maybe)... Ugh. Yup. Cuba is the only reason I decided to try a cruise. It will be my first. And outrageously expensive to have the star of the show canceled. I’m so bummed. May 27 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tymike Posted April 17, 2019 #7 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Essentially we all know that cruise lines can (and sometimes have to ) change itineraries at any time but I've put in so much time for research on Cuba and I'm not particularly interested in the other stops. Any ideas what might replace it? Once again...UGH!!! Very disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCal Posted April 17, 2019 #8 Share Posted April 17, 2019 We’re booked May 6th and it’s not looking good 😓😓 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tymike Posted April 18, 2019 #9 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Please, please....can this thread just be about the loss of our possible Cuba vacation and not about the cause? There are many forums to do politics. This forum is about cruising. The whole thing just hurts right now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollinge Posted April 18, 2019 #10 Share Posted April 18, 2019 https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article229341009.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberlady34 Posted April 18, 2019 #11 Share Posted April 18, 2019 i cant believe this. i was so looking forward to this cruise in August. i dont know what to do, cancel or wait and see what happens. I dont think i want to go if the substitute different ports but it too late to book something else. Cuba was on my mothers bucket list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobnJaci Posted April 18, 2019 #12 Share Posted April 18, 2019 We have hopes this will change before we leave in Jan of 2020. This embargo is not supported by many other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerynSun_JohnCrighton Posted April 18, 2019 #13 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Oh my! This is new. We leave July 1st and our cruise is fully booked. I don't think we could get out of it... again, entire reason for booking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy999 Posted April 18, 2019 #14 Share Posted April 18, 2019 11 hours ago, LaCal said: We’re booked May 6th and it’s not looking good 😓😓 Yes we are also on that cruise. Called MSC today and they suggested that the cruise would still call at Havana. If UK citizen we were advised we were fine. So at this point the cruise is still scheduled to dock in Havana. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetaro Posted April 18, 2019 #15 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) I don't know if they can just change to another port. It's not like NCL, the Armonia serves a lot of Europeans and they should not be affected in this rule. I don't really want to go to other Carribean islands anyway. The good thing is that I booked reward flights and reward hotels and everything is cancellable. Edited April 18, 2019 by thetaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser man 60 Posted April 18, 2019 #16 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Probably still go and American passengers will have to stay on board if banned by trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridian1 Posted April 18, 2019 #17 Share Posted April 18, 2019 This will be interesting to follow. If the cruise ships still go Cuba may not let the ships dock like they did to one ship back in Feb. The cruise lines are going to have to make a tough decision thats for sure. I have a feeling they are going to change that stop. Imagine the logistical nightmare if only some passengers can disembark while half of the others can not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted April 18, 2019 #18 Share Posted April 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, floridian1 said: This will be interesting to follow. If the cruise ships still go Cuba may not let the ships dock like they did to one ship back in Feb. The cruise lines are going to have to make a tough decision thats for sure. I have a feeling they are going to change that stop. Imagine the logistical nightmare if only some passengers can disembark while half of the others can not. Very difficult decision for the cruise companies, a lot of passengers will be cancelling if the itinerary changes. If non US passengers are allowed to visit, it would make sense to continue and allow the US passenger the choice of cancelling or sailing without disembarking in Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerynSun_JohnCrighton Posted April 18, 2019 #19 Share Posted April 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, CruisingFox27 said: Very difficult decision for the cruise companies, a lot of passengers will be cancelling if the itinerary changes. If non US passengers are allowed to visit, it would make sense to continue and allow the US passenger the choice of cancelling or sailing without disembarking in Cuba. I hope they tell us something soon. Ours is July but we have made final payment...and yes, we are US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted April 18, 2019 #20 Share Posted April 18, 2019 The restriction on individual American tourists is only one part of the restrictions. If they are rolling things back to the way they were before, then carriers (cruiseships, airlines) will not be allowed to provide direct connections between the US and Cuba. And in the meantime, for cruises in the next few months, I really doubt that the US authorities would allow cruises to continue and just trust the cruise line and the Cuban authorities to ensure that Americans stay on board. Even if you stay on board, you still have to pay port taxes to Cuba, and that will once again become illegal if they take away the people-to-people and other licenses that people have been using for Cuban travel. If American tourists stop being able to go to Cuba, I expect they will move the Armonia to another port (for example going back to doing round trips out of Havana) and stop accepting US bookings. I.e. what they were doing a couple of years ago already. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted April 18, 2019 #21 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Another view which may or may nor help: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/2019/04/18/usa-cuba-new-travel-restrictions/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCal Posted April 18, 2019 #22 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, CruisingFox27 said: Another view which may or may nor help: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/2019/04/18/usa-cuba-new-travel-restrictions/ Sounds promising for those who are already booked We cruise to Cuba May 6th and are def Looking forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theEvilQueen2 Posted April 18, 2019 #23 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Whether we get to go to Cuba or not, it's evident this administration has succeeded in instilling fear of booking a Cuban cruise. I was going to cancel my RCL September cruise, but I think I'll hang in there just for spite. I looked for cruises for my same date and as of now they're pretty much sold out... the veranda's I looked at last night are gone. So I'm guessing some people have already switched cruises. I just hope that if they completely change our itinerary instead of refunds, we don't end up with a Nassau-Labadee-Falmouth cruise. Worst itinerary ever and its not like The Empress is so exciting that you can say that the ship is the destination, not the ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted April 18, 2019 #24 Share Posted April 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, LaCal said: Sounds promising for those who are already booked Unfortunately that article is based on nothing more than wishful thinking. The guy they quoted runs a company that sells Cuba travel packages to Americans, so of course he has to appear confident and encourage people to continue booking… Anyone who says dumb stuff like "The 12 general license travel categories will not be eliminated as that would impinge on the constitutional right of Americans for freedom to travel” has pretty much zero credibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdtgb Posted April 18, 2019 #25 Share Posted April 18, 2019 We are heading to Cuba (I think) on the April 29 Armonia sailing. If given the choice and the stop in Cuba was cancelled I would cancel the cruise and book the Seaside for a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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