Biker19 Posted November 19, 2021 #326 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tough as Leather said: When I heard that the Icon was going to be of more gross tonnage (I'm trying not to say bigger), I assumed that it would have open areas in the center similar to the Oasis ships. If the guessing earlier in the thread as to the size of the keel are correct (just wider than Q class but narrower than O class), that's unlikely to happen given the GT rating (at least on the scale of O class). Given the current trend toward a blunt bow, the overall length could also be shorter than O class. And given the likely need to fit into places like NY, the height will also likely be limited to O class or less. For context, the MSC World Europa is 205 k GT and has the same amount of cabins. Edited November 19, 2021 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted November 19, 2021 #327 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Biker19 said: Both the GT and berths could somewhat misleading. Wonder is at 5,700 (so "bigger" than Icon) and while "only" about 230K GT, that excludes the outdoor portion of Boardwalk and Central Park. If that was enclosed, you'd likely be "bigger" than Icon. That’s a very good point you make about the outdoor portion. Hopefully we will find out soon all the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 19, 2021 Author #328 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Tough as Leather said: When I heard that the Icon was going to be of more gross tonnage (I'm trying not to say bigger), I assumed that it would have open areas in the center similar to the Oasis ships. I don't know if I would base an assumption on that, but... you're not necessarily wrong about the Icon being open down the middle like her older sisters in the Oasis-class.😎😎😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted November 19, 2021 #329 Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Ethanol95 said: I can't even begin to imagine physically seeing Icon that much bigger than Oasis class. Oasis is already so big. I hear you on that. Let’s see what comes out hopefully soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted November 19, 2021 #330 Share Posted November 19, 2021 57 minutes ago, Lloyd555 said: I don't know if I would base an assumption on that, but... you're not necessarily wrong about the Icon being open down the middle like her older sisters in the Oasis-class.😎😎😎 Open down the middle and bigger than O class! Hmmmm, I think Lloyd knows/has seen something 😀. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 19, 2021 Author #331 Share Posted November 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, Tall-Cruiser said: Open down the middle and bigger than O class! Hmmmm, I think Lloyd knows/has seen something 😀. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL3XCruise Posted November 21, 2021 #332 Share Posted November 21, 2021 With Royal touting a revolutionary design, I keep thinking back to the World City Phoenix concept from the 80s. At that time the idea of a 250,000GT cruise ship was considered absurd by a lot of folks, but here we are today. The Phoenix's multi tower design offers more sea views from more places, and is generally more outwardly focused than Royal's latest ships. Of course, a lot has changed in the industry and I doubt the design would be practical anymore, but I'd love to see certain concepts brought to a modern ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 23, 2021 Author #333 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) The Costa Toscana departs on December 3rd. Hopefully the shipyard starts shifting things around soon after that. 😄 Building of the Icon could start in the second week of the new year. Edited November 23, 2021 by Lloyd555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted November 23, 2021 #334 Share Posted November 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Lloyd555 said: Visible assembly of the Icon could start in the second week of the new year. Fixed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 30, 2021 Author #335 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Grey Simms asked in the Icon FB group... I've been wondering. Who comes up with the initial design of the cruise ship? The cruise line, the shipyard, a design firm employed by the cruise line? If it's different for each cruise line or individual ship, do we know what the case is for the Icon of the Seas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 30, 2021 Author #336 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Well, this was unexpected. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted November 30, 2021 #337 Share Posted November 30, 2021 What a nice surprise, thank you Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 30, 2021 Author #338 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I was told that the keel section that is still sitting in the hall is for Carnival Jubilee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted November 30, 2021 Author #339 Share Posted November 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, deliver42 said: What a nice surprise, thank you Lloyd. More surprises(?) in video description... Float out Icon of the Seas engine room section at Neptun shipyard Rostock / Germany on November 26, 2021. With over 245.500 GT, this next generation cruise ship will be the largest of the world. The Icon of the Seas is powered by LNG. This floating engine room unit ( FERU ) has a width of 48,50m and will soon be shipped to Meyer shipyard Turku / Finland. Delivery from Meyer Turku shipyard is planned for Q3 2023. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 1, 2021 #340 Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Lloyd555 said: has a width of 48,50m Somehow that doesn't seem right as it would be narrower than Q class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted December 1, 2021 #341 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Biker19 said: Somehow that doesn't seem right as it would be narrower than Q class. i think that is the Beam at the Water Line Oasis is 47 and Quantum 41 at the Waterline. Beam 47 m (154 ft) waterline[1] 60.5 m (198 ft) max beam[1] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough as Leather Posted December 1, 2021 #342 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 11:03 AM, Lloyd555 said: FIRST CERTAIN THING THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE ICON OF THE SEAS <drum roll> The Icon of the Seas will have a curved* bank of elevators. Contain your excitement. Thanks to Edouardo for passing along these screen grabs from a Costa Toscana video he watched. You can see some doorways for the curved elevator banks on the backside of the blocks that we have been admiring. Must admit that at first glance I though they were the balcony doorways for inward facing cabins. *I hope that this is the proper terminology 🙂 As pointed out in the FB group, what looks like the bottom of the elevator shafts. (Lloyd, I am not repeating your 'pits' joke LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 1, 2021 #343 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Tall-Cruiser said: i think that is the Beam at the Water Line It may be but looking at the pic, I just don't get the sense that this is wider than O class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted December 1, 2021 #344 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Biker19 said: It may be but looking at the pic, I just don't get the sense that this is wider than O class. yea it actually looks quite lanky for this block at least compared to Oasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted December 1, 2021 #345 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Biker19 said: It may be but looking at the pic, I just don't get the sense that this is wider than O class. I see your point when you look at it like that and maybe the picture and angle is distorting. Perhaps what we now also need to know is the name of that transport vessel and what it’s max carrying width is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted December 7, 2021 Author #346 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Icon of the Seas FERU📷 @portofrostock Edited December 7, 2021 by Lloyd555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted December 8, 2021 #347 Share Posted December 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Lloyd555 said: Icon of the Seas FERU📷 @portofrostock She looks real wide from this angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted December 13, 2021 Author #348 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Beautiful night shots by Janne-Petteri Kumpulainen More blue hulls. 🙂 From the first photo... that belongs to Carnival Celebration - top deck at stern. This piece, the bridge and the funnel appear to be the last big pieces to be installed. The funnel may not go on until the 3rd week of January. After the pieces are installed using the large crane/portico, then the Celebration can be moved forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted December 21, 2021 Author #349 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) The Icon of the Seas FERU is on its way from Neptun Werft at Rostock, Germany to Meyer Turku in Turku, Finland. 🎥 portofrostock portofrostock__2021.12.21.04.11.35__.mp4 Edited December 21, 2021 by Lloyd555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted December 21, 2021 Author #350 Share Posted December 21, 2021 'The Obj. 0400 FERU of the NB 1400 resp. S. 1400 left the Neptun shipyard in Rostock today. The FERU is destined for Turku and will be towed there by two tugs. This part of the ICON OF THE SEAS already contains two LNG tanks. The FERU is 48.79m wide and 95.60m long.' 📷 portofrostock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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