Rare BlerkOne Posted November 7, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 7, 2020 https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-mardi-gras-cruise-ship-departs-on-second-round-of-sea-trials/43190?fbclid=IwAR3lYifZgAtU2tjfnR2hmq2l3jSGAGKHzKUkUZHy09KAlFSqH5vO9_BNKig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneman69 Posted November 7, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Thanks for the link. Nice to see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMRPHRN Posted November 9, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 9, 2020 So, CCL hasn't taken posession of the ship yet? Don't they need to get to US waters soon so they can fulfill all those CDC requirements before February 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 10, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, GMRPHRN said: So, CCL hasn't taken posession of the ship yet? Don't they need to get to US waters soon so they can fulfill all those CDC requirements before February 6? Heck no. and doubtful. Not sure the CDC suggestions apply to new builds, but if so, Carnival would maybe get the shipbuilder to certify before they take possession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMRPHRN Posted November 10, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Heck no. and doubtful. Not sure the CDC suggestions apply to new builds, but if so, Carnival would maybe get the shipbuilder to certify before they take possession. Well I am going to hold on to that with lots of hope! did I mention I need a vacation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naxer Posted November 10, 2020 #6 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) I'll take that as good news. Things are moving along. I'm booked on the Mardi Gras for November 2021, and we're just a few weeks away from 2021 and better times. At least that's what I'm rooting for. Edited November 10, 2020 by naxer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 10, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 hours ago, BlerkOne said: Heck no. and doubtful. Not sure the CDC suggestions apply to new builds, but if so, Carnival would maybe get the shipbuilder to certify before they take possession. Yes, the CDC requirements (not suggestions) apply to all ships, whether new or not, and not sure what the shipyard could "certify" towards those requirements. Most have to do with operations, which the yard has nothing to do with, and those that require structural changes have come about so recently, that change orders would not likely have been possible to implement in construction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 10, 2020 Author #8 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Yes, the CDC requirements (not suggestions) apply to all ships, whether new or not, and not sure what the shipyard could "certify" towards those requirements. Most have to do with operations, which the yard has nothing to do with, and those that require structural changes have come about so recently, that change orders would not likely have been possible to implement in construction. The CDC suggestions don't apply to ships not in the US, but the judge's order would apply the ship if it were to come into the US and the ship builder could certify that any environmental concerns related to the ship were met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 10, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BlerkOne said: The CDC suggestions don't apply to ships not in the US, but the judge's order would apply the ship if it were to come into the US and the ship builder could certify that any environmental concerns related to the ship were met. Quite aware the CDC requirements don't apply outside the US, but the ship is coming to the US. You brought up the CDC, and not the judge. As for the judge's requirement for certification, she does not care what the shipyard says it has installed on the ship. The judge wants the CEO to certify, so that he is legally responsible for any inaccurate statements, and that certification goes way beyond what equipment is installed by the shipyard. Again, the vast majority of problems come from operations. And, as the environmental concerns were found as part of port state control, the judge has the jurisdiction to ensure that the laws are complied with anywhere in the world. Edited November 10, 2020 by chengkp75 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 11, 2020 Author #10 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Quite aware the CDC requirements don't apply outside the US, but the ship is coming to the US. You brought up the CDC, and not the judge. Okay. The CDC suggestions are subject to change. The ship isn't due to sail in the US until February. By then, the US will have one or more vaccines and a new President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouche Posted November 12, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 12, 2020 My biggest take from the article was this...."Hopefully, Mardi Gras won’t be delayed again". Only time will tell, my husband and I are on the first sailing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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