Level of smoke in casinos

[travelplus]

On 11/8/2021 at 5:46 AM, wkucrprez said:

As a smoker and designated  an "elite" level player under Carnival's casino loyalty program, I would consider myself a qualified person to answer your questions and address your concerns. 

 

Let's begin with the primary reason smoking is allowed indoors on the vessel... It's  definitely not out of the goodness of Carnival's heart. Carnival has to listen to the incessant complaints of guests about smoking being allowed in the casino. Why not ban it... it's all about revenue and keeping the revenue generating guests happy...

 

https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-adds-separate-non-smoking-casino-on-three-ships/53411

 

As John Heald says in the article, smokers gamble more than non smokers. Smokers outspend nonsmokers exponentially in casinos! It's the revenue that we smokers generate in the casino that keeps Carnival afloat... and the cost of YOUR vacation down. Do you think cruise lines make profit from cruise fares... absolutely not. Cruise fares extremely low margin, barely break even. Casino revenue is the margin making cash cow for Carnival. Frankly, every passenger on the ship should thank each smoker in the casino... smokers literally make nonsmokers vacation affordable. John Heald even says it. 

 

Why are so few slots designated as non smoking? See above.  Non smokers are cheap. Why would a casino owner  restrict an asset from a guest who will spend more money using it, that's the definition of insanity.  Non smokers should be thankful that non smoking machines and tables are offered as they are not as profitable.

 

What's next..."Why can't "they" gamble for an hour and then go to the smoking area."  The retort could be, "Why can't  simply stay out of the casino since you don't like smoke?" Smokers have no other venue to smoke other than the casino... as a nonsmoker you have the entire ship to not smoke. That seems like a pretty agreeable situation in the nonsmokers favor. It frustrates me that nonsmokers press to take away the one place in society a smoker still can enjoy a cigarette... it's beyond selfish. 

 

That leads me to the "known carcinogen" comment. I have a masters in chemistry, so I consider myself a scientist.  It is beyond ignorant for anyone to consider being exposed to secondhand cigarette smoke on occasion, for a short amount of time a cancer risk. Cancer related to smoking is not acute (short term based) but from chronic (long term) exposure.  Going into a casino a few hours every night during your cruise in no way will increase your risks of developing cancer.  You would have to go 10 hours,  every day for 20 years in n a heavily smoke filled room to start worrying about an increased cancer risk. 

 

The moral of the story is this... On my last cruise in September I had over $13,000 in Sign and Sail charges to the casino. I smoked lots of cigarettes while playing. The casino is going to continue to allow smoking as long as guests like me let our wallets do the talking.

 

#SmokeUmIfUGotUm

#ThankASmoker

 

 

Would alternating times like a Non Smoker time work then followed by Smokers? I have a sensitivity to tobacco so I avoid it as much as possible but it's not to the point of I have to be away. Wearing a mask helps so then maybe it will help in the casino.

 

I studied how Vegas works and you are spot on. Smokers keep the fares down and most of the ship is non smoking.

[evandbob]

Random comments:

 

1) Mardi Gras was low smoke level, was not quite at Celebrity's no smoking casino, but better than the clouds of haze seen and breathed in other Carnival casinos.

 

2) Smoking and drinking and gambling and drug abuse go hand in hand, one activity enhances the effect of the other as prior posters have noted.

 

3)  Having a smoking section next to a non smoking area in a casino is like having a peeing and no pee area in a swimming pool.