Has Europa World Class Shrunk?

[London-Calling]

 

 

 

[Two Wheels Only]

153,516GT? The exact same gross tonnage as Seaside/Seaview?

 

 

Is today April 1st?😜

[sidari]

205,000 tons I believe.

Edited December 8, 2021 by sidari

[London-Calling]

The internet give figures of 205,000 and 153,000. Do we have a definitive answer?

[sidari]

205,000 will be Gross tonnage, no idea where the lower one came from.

[Nunagoras]

Unless something has changed on the last 2 years... It is now too late to make such a decision like that for a ship that is way under construction!... Maybe: Someone has confused actual tonnage with gross tonnage, and even at that they did their accounting in a very sad matter, to say the least!... Today is not all fools day, or is it???!!!...

 

Now: Another question is on whether the World 2, 3 and 4 will be made of the same prototype or replaced by what seems to be a Fantasia+ one at 153 gross tonnes? That only time will tell, and that might to be exactly true. I believe the world Europa to be a class of its own on the current post pandemic far low market situation. that way they'd to secure the very valuable shipyard slots, while bringing a commercially far more realistic class of ships, maybe with a 5th one on the making to compensate at the contract's maturity.

 

Have a nice day!...

Edited December 11, 2021 by Nunagoras

[ocdb8r]

On 12/11/2021 at 4:05 PM, sidari said:

205,000 will be Gross tonnage, no idea where the lower one came from.

I think MSC has flip-flopped on this a couple of times.  Currently the website says 205k gross tonnes.  However, it wasn't always that way....

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20210531133839/https://www.msccruisesusa.com/cruise/ships/msc-world-europa

 

Scroll all the way to the bottom.

 

MSC IT STRIKES AGAIN!

Edited December 13, 2021 by ocdb8r

[London-Calling]

Thanks ocdb6r, so which figure is correct?

 

Different MSC web sites have different figures!

[ocdb8r]

On 12/19/2021 at 12:24 AM, London-Calling said:

Thanks ocdb6r, so which figure is correct?

 

Different MSC web sites have different figures!

I believe the larger number is correct as they've corrected it in most places on their websites.  That, combined with the fact the smaller number just happened to be identical to the Seashore, leads me to believe whomever in MSC IT added the "New Ship" left the old numbers from the last new ship (which happened to be Seashore).

[karmamule]

On 1/2/2022 at 3:18 PM, ocdb8r said:

I believe the larger number is correct as they've corrected it in most places on their websites.  That, combined with the fact the smaller number just happened to be identical to the Seashore, leads me to believe whomever in MSC IT added the "New Ship" left the old numbers from the last new ship (which happened to be Seashore).

 

Except MSC Seashore's size is 169,400 in gross tonnage on both the archived and current site. I do agree the smaller size is a mistake, but it's not from copy/pasting the Seashore's value. The SeaSIDE and SeaVIEW have that size so maybe copy/paste from one of them.

[London-Calling]

This whole story appears to be "Fake News". Europa is around 205, 000 GT.

 

Mind you Wikipedia and MSC's own web site had it wrong!

Edited February 6, 2022 by London-Calling