cruisegirl06 Posted October 25, 2022 #1 Share Posted October 25, 2022 We’re sailing a cruise with standards protocols. From what I read here, there is no testing required regardless of vaccination status - am I interpreting this correctly? I haven’t read anything about them changing requirements so this seemed odd… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted October 25, 2022 #2 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Wow! I just checked our upcoming HAL cruise in December, and it says the same thing! Looks like they changed protocol again, as of yesterday. 🥰 Health Protocols Standard Protocols This specific booking and/or voyage follows our COVID-19 Standard Protocols for vaccination and testing requirements for cruising. Vaccination Requirements We highly recommend all guests be up to date on their vaccination status. Vaccinations, however, are not required. Testing Requirements Guests are not required to take a COVID-19 test prior to embarkation. Please upload all required documentation to the VeriFLY app for a quick and seamless embarkation process. As a reminder, it is the guest's responsibility to understand and meet all government requirements for documentation and entry, including COVID-19 vaccination, of the countries they will visit during the cruise, including embarkation and disembarkation ports. We encourage guests to visit the countries' websites to review their requirements. Global COVID-19 regulations and protocols are continuously changing and we may revise or modify these requirements (effective immediately) to evolve in line with the latest practices at any time. Please check back regularly for any updates. These protocols only apply to the specific booking number or voyage entered. As of October 24, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Banditswife Posted October 25, 2022 #3 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I can see why cruise lines are eliminating need for testing. Pre cruise testing wasn't truly working. We were on a longer, 17, day cruise where we were required to be vaxed, boosted & pre cruise tested. Then were given a 2nd test in the terminal in addition to the test everyone was required to take prior to embarkation day. We had a really bad outbreak of Covid on that cruise, seemed like there were red bags outside of cabins along every hallway. And rumors were flying about the number of cases onboard. I have also heard/read about other outbreaks even though they were tested & vaxed. My sister's whole family ended up with covid after a cruise- they were all vaxed & tested. So the tests were not really helping to eliminate outbreaks. Using good common sense & protecting yourself is more helpful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted October 25, 2022 #4 Share Posted October 25, 2022 This thread is about HAL's evolving health protocols. HAL is saying that for some specific sailings, vaccinations are not required, and guests are not required to take a COVID-19 test prior to embarkation. I'm going to assume that they're okay with those protocols. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habitatnal Posted October 25, 2022 #5 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Does this mean that if you are on a standard sailing regardless of vaccination status, that all you need to bring to the port are your travel documents? (No test or vaccination card.) Is the VeriFLY line going away at the port since there is no reason to use VeriFLY? I wish this protocol change was communicated better and clearer. I’m surprised that now Holland America has looser protocols than Carnival. I thought Holland America would be one of the last cruise lines to change their protocols. Edited October 25, 2022 by habitatnal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Banditswife Posted October 25, 2022 #6 Share Posted October 25, 2022 The HAL website does make it easy to determine if you need to be tested prior to your specific cruise. You just enter your boarding #. I am sure there are still countries that require testing &/or vaccines prior to entering. So kudos to HAL for making it easy to figure out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDARCH Posted October 25, 2022 #7 Share Posted October 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, Banditswife said: So kudos to HAL for making it easy to figure out. Yes...kudos to HAL...it is a great tool. Just checked this again for my journey staring in 10 days 8 hours 4 minutes. Last week it was testing not required if vax'd. It is now: We highly recommend all guests be up to date on their vaccination status. Vaccinations, however, are not required. Guests are not required to take a COVID-19 test prior to embarkation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida_gal_50 Posted October 26, 2022 #8 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Why do they bother with the “highly recommend” ? Too many people on here read that as optional 🙄. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdw1972 Posted October 26, 2022 #9 Share Posted October 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, Florida_gal_50 said: Why do they bother with the “highly recommend” ? Too many people on here read that as optional 🙄. Because if it's not required, it's optional. It's up to the passenger to decide whether to do it or not - very simple. Sue/WDW1972 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted October 26, 2022 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Florida_gal_50 said: Why do they bother with the “highly recommend” ? Too many people on here read that as optional 🙄. Only the ones who understand that "not required" means that it is optional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida_gal_50 Posted October 26, 2022 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Maybe to two of you can google highly recommend. It’s not what the passenger decides 🙄. I’m not surprised in the least though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted October 26, 2022 #12 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Florida_gal_50 said: Maybe to two of you can google highly recommend. It’s not what the passenger decides 🙄. I’m not surprised in the least though. If the waiter highly recommends the fish, you're still free to order the chickie. We have options. No astonishment necessary. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nang Posted October 26, 2022 #13 Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Florida_gal_50 said: Why do they bother with the “highly recommend” ? Too many people on here read that as optional 🙄. Still playing from the same old song book I see. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida_gal_50 Posted October 26, 2022 #14 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nang said: Still playing from the same old song book I see. Just like you right 😂? Edited October 26, 2022 by Florida_gal_50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FlaMariner Posted October 26, 2022 #15 Share Posted October 26, 2022 We are now FREE TO CHOOSE....which is how interpret "highly recommended" Yahoo! Verify deleted. Cruising in November with no more foolishness! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Crazy For Cats Posted October 26, 2022 #16 Share Posted October 26, 2022 @cruisegirl06 thanks for starting this thread. I missed the change in protocols. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbecca Posted October 26, 2022 #17 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Got excited for a minute but checked and disappointingly ours is still enhanced! (19 Nov Oosterdam). Without HAL providing at port, it’s even more of a pain for non US citizens to organise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nang Posted October 27, 2022 #18 Share Posted October 27, 2022 18 hours ago, Florida_gal_50 said: Just like you right 😂? touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Banditswife Posted October 28, 2022 #19 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I believe HAL & other lines are allowing us to make our own decisions about vax & testing when they can. Vaxed & unvaxed can walk into local Walmart w/o being tested & mask free. It is up to us to protect ourselves in whatever way we see fit. In US we can enter most businesses w/o masks & w/o showing vax record. Only place I've been required to wear a mask lately is a Dr office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imescaping Posted November 3, 2022 #20 Share Posted November 3, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 4:12 PM, Banditswife said: The HAL website does make it easy to determine if you need to be tested prior to your specific cruise. You just enter your boarding #. I am sure there are still countries that require testing &/or vaccines prior to entering. So kudos to HAL for making it easy to figure out. On the HAL website it says if you haven’t booked yet you can Get the info by “voyage number”. Anyone know how I find out the voyage number for a particular cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Banditswife Posted November 3, 2022 #21 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, imescaping said: On the HAL website it says if you haven’t booked yet you can Get the info by “voyage number”. Anyone know how I find out the voyage number for a particular cruise? I am not sure how to figure out the voyage #, sorry. The voyage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mightycruisequeen Posted November 4, 2022 #22 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Banditswife said: I am not sure how to figure out the voyage #, sorry. The voyage Try this; you only need to know the ship & date & # of days: https://book2.hollandamerica.com/protocols/?voyage=all It's good for all 2022 sailings. Edited November 4, 2022 by mightycruisequeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted November 4, 2022 #23 Share Posted November 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, mightycruisequeen said: Try this; you only need to know the ship & date & # of days: https://book2.hollandamerica.com/protocols/?voyage=all It's good for all 2022 sailings. This is a good source but don’t try to make sense of the 2023 protocols from this table, they make absolutely no sense. Wait a few weeks for 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAKcruiser Posted November 5, 2022 #24 Share Posted November 5, 2022 The voyage number is listed on the top left side of the cruise confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicadas Posted November 8, 2022 #25 Share Posted November 8, 2022 We're going on the 22-day South America & Antarctica cruise in December, and we still have to get tested, which is going to be difficult considering how long our flights are to reach Buenos Aires. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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