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Juneau Alaska Assembly is working on limiting the number of cruise ships.


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Juneau is the latest port to start working on a plan to limit the number of cruise ships in port on any given day.  They are looking at setting a rather high limit of 5 ships.  Which allows most scheduled port visits for next season.  There are a few days where 6 ships are  scheduled.  There is some pushing for a lower limit.

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Wasn't that long ago that the SE Alaska's popular cruise ports were crying about covid and the ships being gone, the tourism revenue tanking, all as they were lobbying the fed for exemptions to the PVSA and other handouts.

 

Oh, how the turns have tabled.

 

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https://www.cruisehive.com/popular-alaskan-port-seeking-to-limit-cruise-ship-visits/93569

 

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3 hours ago, Outerdog said:

Wasn't that long ago that the SE Alaska's popular cruise ports were crying about covid and the ships being gone, the tourism revenue tanking, all as they were lobbying the fed for exemptions to the PVSA and other handouts.

 

Oh, how the turns have tabled.

 

Also, source: 

 

https://www.cruisehive.com/popular-alaskan-port-seeking-to-limit-cruise-ship-visits/93569

 

Just goes to show you that even the ports that consider themselves to be very dependent upon cruise ship traffic still will have limits as the numbers of ships and passengers continue to grow.

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3 hours ago, ldtr said:

Just goes to show you that even the ports that consider themselves to be very dependent upon cruise ship traffic still will have limits as the numbers of ships and passengers continue to grow.

 

Since many of the ships now on the Alaska route are the largest in various companies' fleets, less ships can still mean more passengers than in the past.

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11 hours ago, ldtr said:

Juneau is the latest port to start working on a plan to limit the number of cruise ships in port on any given day.  They are looking at setting a rather high limit of 5 ships.  Which allows most scheduled port visits for next season.  There are a few days where 6 ships are  scheduled.  There is some pushing for a lower limit.

I can completely understand city officials desire to do this. There does come a point where a port city is simply overwhelmed to the point where even the tourist have a bad experience. The infrastructures of many small ports and cities simply can’t handle that. 
Six ships carrying at least 2,000 (maybe more like 3,000-3,500) passengers all arriving and departing at essentially the same time would be a cluster for everyone and make most say they would never want to return. I sure wouldn’t want to. 
If they’re seeing days where there’s 1,2 or 3 ships and others within 5-6 why wouldn’t they want to ask the cruise lines to make changes. 

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11 hours ago, Outerdog said:

Wasn't that long ago that the SE Alaska's popular cruise ports were crying about covid and the ships being gone, the tourism revenue tanking, all as they were lobbying the fed for exemptions to the PVSA and other handouts.

 

Oh, how the turns have tabled.

 

I don't see any inconsistency or hypocrisy given what was contained in the first post.  Nothing wrong with returning to status quo ante and wanting to keep it there. 

 

11 hours ago, ldtr said:

They are looking at setting a rather high limit of 5 ships.  Which allows most scheduled port visits for next season.  There are a few days where 6 ships are  scheduled. 

 

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While I understand their desire to do this... I think they're better off looking at ship capacity verse number of ships. Some of the ships are much smaller than industry standards because they're Alaska specific. I appreciate this move in I agree that too many people is an issue in a port. When the NCL Jewel sails into Juneau on June 1 - she's the 4th ship of the day and two are almost 3,000 passenger ships and other two are 2,100-2,400 passenger ships - So that means almost 10,000 tourists for the day. WOW! (June 2 & 3 each have 6 ships!)

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How much of this is trying to reduce the number of ships and how much is it the shortages of both staff and supplies in the hospitality industry post covid? 
NCL have already opened up 2 new “ports” at Ward Cove and Icy Strait Point  and they switched to ISP when the landslide reduced dock capacity at Skagway last year. As long as demand for Alaskan cruises remains high the cruiselines will figure out ways to keep it going even if they have to be more creative with alternative ports. 

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