Tinknock50 Posted November 11, 2006 #151 Share Posted November 11, 2006 From the Press release, now on HAL's website:(Click Here For All Of It) I'm sorry, I just find it fake and artificial. I wonder what the Dutch think about the name? I think you hit the nail on the head with "artificial". I think that annoys me as much as its lack of tradition. Completely made up name. Although, as a practical matter, as long as I continue to cruise in the years ahead I will probably end up on one of this new class of ship. I hope I like its layout.:) I am hoping they have a more open feel than the Vista class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted November 11, 2006 #152 Share Posted November 11, 2006 The Maiden Voyage of the Noordam was wonderful. The ship was, actually, finished -- except for some relatively "minor" adjustments. Of course, they had the crossing before the Maiden cruise to do a lot of training and to get things really "ship shape and Bristol fashioned." Unfortunately, they won't have such a crossing prior to the Maiden Voyage of the E-dam in order to get her ready, so I find myself wondering if she will be as well-readied as was the Noordam. The Noordam was not booked solid for her maiden voyage. She'll at least have the trip from Fincantieri at Monfalcone to Rotterdam - That'll take at least as long as a five day Atlantic crossing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ine Posted November 11, 2006 #153 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I really cannot believe the name Eurodam is for real, it sounds like a joke, made by someone without a sense of humor or fantasy!!! Fact is there are still a a lot of europeans not that happy with the Euro, that name...pronounced in a little different way...sounds again like a joke. There are that many beautiful old cities in NL and in HAL's history with their names ending on dam the choice was wide enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougnewmanatsea Posted November 11, 2006 #154 Share Posted November 11, 2006 By comparison, I'm not so excited about the Maiden Voyage itinerary It's a very odd itinerary for a Baltic cruise. One day in St. Petersburg?! Now, I have already been to St. Petersburg so this would not bother me so much but if one is going there for the first time one really must have an overnight. I would like to go to Hamburg and Gdansk neither of which I have ever been to (but who knows, perhaps I will have by the time summer 2008 rolls around). Last year I was booked on a CENTURY cruise that was original a "normal" Baltic itinerary but later was re-scheduled to have only one day in St. Petersburg. We promptly cancelled and re-booked on ROTTERDAM... A little more expensive but worth it! The maiden voyage would be fun though. I think that's one you do more for the experience of it than anything. In my case it certainly would be - were I looking for another Baltic cruise (which I'm not - I love that area but there are so many other places to go before I return there) I would not choose that itinerary. But a maiden voyage would be fun so I would consider doing it on that count. On the other hand, that transatlantic does look fantastic! Recognizing that sea-state and weather is always a crapshoot, the roughest trans-Atlantic we have been on (out of 6) was a late August 02 crossing, on Golden Princess. I have a habit of encountering bad weather where it normally shouldn't be! e.g. One of the biggest storms I've been in was in the Caribbean in February - about as far from hurricane season as one can get! On the other hand this past January crossing the Atlantic it was warm and mostly sunny and flat. We had one night of reasonably "lively" weather (not a real storm, just enough to make one hold on to the handrails and have them close the deadlights on the Five Deck portholes) but that was it. It looks like I will have to sit out this year's January QE2 crossing (:( ) but I do hope to do the 2008 Tandem with QUEEN VICTORIA (aboard QE2 of course, not "that new thing" ;) ) so maybe I will be "lucky" and hit some bad weather then! It would be interesting to see how a Vista-class ship is in bad weather... I suspect like most new ships, probably neither notably bad nor notably good. QE2 is still the best-riding ship out there IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted November 11, 2006 #155 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I really cannot believe the name Eurodam is for real, it sounds like a joke, made by someone without a sense of humor or fantasy!!! Fact is there are still a a lot of europeans not that happy with the Euro, that name...pronounced in a little different way...sounds again like a joke. There are that many beautiful old cities in NL and in HAL's history with their names ending on dam the choice was wide enough. Goeie avond Ine, rustig aan, he!:) I'm sorry, I just find it fake and artificial. I wonder what the Dutch think about the name? There's your answer from one of them, Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ine Posted November 11, 2006 #156 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Did you check your mail John???? Today...Sint Maarten, de koeien dragen staarten etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted November 11, 2006 #157 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Did you check your mail John????Today...Sint Maarten, de koeien dragen staarten etc.... Nope, not for a couple of days but I will! Say hi to Ton! (hate it when the cows do that!);) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted November 11, 2006 #158 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Doug, I REALLY enjoyed the Maiden Voyage of the Noordam. It, in and of itself, really was an "experience." It wasn't just all the other CCers I met aboard -- and that WAS great -- it was also the sense of being at the beginning of something special. And, the crew were fantastic, with the attention to detail being amazing. Yes, there were problems ... but they were address QUICKLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bepsf Posted November 11, 2006 #159 Share Posted November 11, 2006 She'll at least have the trip from Fincantieri at Monfalcone to Rotterdam - That'll take at least as long as a five day Atlantic crossing ...except that all HAL newbuilds since Veendam are from the Fincantieri yard in Marghera (Venice). Princess and Carnival newbuilds come from Monfalcone (across the Gulf from Trieste). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Ruys Posted November 11, 2006 #160 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I don't like the name EURODAM either even if the EUROMAST is a symbol of the city of Rotterdam, the original home of HAL. I wouldn't have wanted her called EDAM - too "cheesy" for me, nor LEERDAM - again, the image of a leering old timer. But neither is as bad as the obvious nickname this babe will have - URINEDAM...which might fit along with the PRIDONDAM, SATANDAM and MAD SAM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem Ruys Posted November 11, 2006 #161 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I don't like the name EURODAM either even if the EUROMAST is a symbol of the city of Rotterdam, the original home of HAL. I wouldn't have wanted her called EDAM - too "cheesy" for me, nor LEERDAM - again, the image of a leering old timer. But neither is as bad as the obvious nickname this babe will have - URINEDAM...then again fit along with the nickanmes PRISONDAM, ROTTENDAM. SATANDAM and MAD SAM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted November 11, 2006 #162 Share Posted November 11, 2006 :) Welcome Willem. You sure do have a way with words and twists on names. Funny. Pull up a deck chair and stay a while. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted November 12, 2006 #163 Share Posted November 12, 2006 ...except that all HAL newbuilds since Veendam are from the Fincantieri yard in Marghera (Venice). Princess and Carnival newbuilds come from Monfalcone (across the Gulf from Trieste). Thanks for setting me straight, dude!;) But she will still have about the same distance to get to Rotterdam to work out some of the early kinks Welkom Willem; did you know they named a ship after you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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