Non-Perfume Ships?

[joemooch]

Just finished reading the nonsmoking thread...my signature will show our preference having done the Paradise nonsmoking cruise. Carnival (yuk) apparently couldn't support their one ship as nonsmoking.

Just left the Insignia in Valparaiso. Oceania has placed the smoking areas so that one can avoid them. That said one must hold your breath when passing through the Horizons smoking section.

But that's not my point...It's cheap cologne! On separate visits to Polo and Toscana, we were overwhelmed by other guests wearing what my wife called cheap perfume. Fortunately, we were just then reminiscing about the wonderful dinner on one occasion and about to order dessert on the other. One of our dinner partners had allergic reactions to the offensive smell just as he does with cigarette smoke. We were all (staff included) offended by the smell. So what can you do but leave, which we did. We have all experienced this problem. The smoking area is avoidable and posted. You can move seats in the bar, the casino, etc. We mentioned this to the cruise director who was at a loss to solve the problem.

Many colleges and organizations are restricting the use of perfumes. I found several references quoted below:

FRAGRANCES: Many people are allergic to fragrances. Please either wear no perfume or cologne or very little. The person sitting next to you should not be affected by your fragrance.

FROM YOUR INSTRUCTOR: I am allergic to many types of perfume. For the sake of my health and the comfort of your classmates, please show restraint in your use of perfume in the classroom, and please, no perfume in my office. Thank you.

Any comments?

[sfbear]

Oceania has placed the smoking areas so that one can avoid them. That said one must hold your breath when passing through the Horizons smoking section.

 

. . . So what can you do but leave, which we did. We have all experienced this problem. The smoking area is avoidable and posted. You can move seats in the bar, the casino, etc. . . . Any comments?

 

Being a non-smoker, but partnered with a smoker, I can sympathize with those who do not appreciate being around smoke. I also agree with the OP. One place you cannot move seats, etc. is the elevators. Once onboard an elevator you have to suffer through the trip, or get off at the next stop. All this being said, I won't allow perfume or smoke to ruin my cruise experience !!:)

[orchestrapal]

:) Sounds like a great idea.

Unfortunately most people are not aware of how offensive their perfume, expensive or cheap, is.

I work in a totally non-smoking no perfume environment and it would be wonderful to have this on a cruise as well.

[esther e]

Well, of course the fragrance I wear is in good taste!;) However, Eau de Stench is awful! Is it only cheap perfume? My own feeling is that the heavier the fragrance, the worse it smells.

[Brahmama]

I agree with you that people should be very considerate of others and NOT overwhelm them with their perfume!

 

But now to hijack your post! I know that you just got back from the Insignia and I have some questions about the ports. Are you willing to put up with questions now that your cruise is over? Or are you doing a Trip Report?

 

If so, please reply here and I'll ask (just a few) questions for the edification of future cruisers. We leave in less than 2 weeks.

 

Or email me at:

 

Brahmama@yahoo.com

 

Hoping to hear from you,

 

Carol

[Liv4cruzin]

I aired my views on the smoking thread. And like your dinner companion, I also have a pretty nasty reaction to a lot of perfumes. (I wish I could figure out why some perfumes don't trigger a reaction.) It's such a touchy subject. I can understand the individual being oblivious to the offensive strong perfumes (well not really); but you would think that their spouse/partner could easily speak up. If only people would realize that "less is more". Until that day comes, we will continue to sneeze, cough & gasp!

[Leonid]

JoeMooch et al: get a life! The PC crowd is not going to rule the cruise industry! What else would you like to ban. Loud drinkers, women who don't dress the way you want, cruisers who have the audacity to bring children even if the cruise line says "that's not a good idea"! You people don't like what the paying pax. do, find another cruise line!

[camNaud]

The funny thing is smoking and perfumes etc go hand in hand. People are more likely to spray more to cover up the smoky tobacco smell that plagues their clothing when subjected to tobacco smoke. This applies even when they are non smokers.

 

New legislation in Scotland has outlawed smoking in bars, restuarants, cinemas and in fact all public places where people work. The plus point being you can now go out to restuarants / bars etc and not come home stinking of stale smoke. This in turn results (and i can vouch for it) your perfume / after shave etc still being detectable at the end of the night. We no longer have to spary as much of these secents when we all go out now.

 

The health benefits are also a total plus. We no longer have to put up with smoke and we are not spending as much on perfumes and aftershaves. For the record I am an ex smoker (the worst type of smoking critic you can get) lol.

[hondorner]

Interestingly, somewhere around day 24 or our recent 26 day voyage on Regatta, Betsy said to me, "You know, I haven't noticed anyone on the ship using an excessive amount of perfume of cologne." I hadn't thought about it, but only because she was right -- no one had triggered any reaction from us. And, trust me, on a small ship, with those tiny elevators, it would have been apparent if anyone was indulging.

 

Maybe we were just lucky, or maybe Oceania passengers are exceptional, but it was just another reason why it was a pleasant cruise.

[joemooch]

I had a small hope of reaching out to those ~.3% (on this cruise) of travelers or their companions who had no idea of the distress caused by their choice and quantity of fragrance.

Leonid's mention of "loud drinkers, women who don't dress the way you want, cruisers who have the audacity to bring children" reminds me that all of those factors on our cruise were exceptional. Perhaps that's what we expect and pay for on Oceania.

[camNaud]

PS what is everyones favourite scent.

 

I wear Givenchy Gentleman or YSL Opium For Men - both are nice classic scents.

 

Wife loves modern scents like Kenzo Jungle.

[epi_centre]

FYI -

The city of Halifax, Nova Scotia, (Canada) has banned perfumes in public places. Just too many people were becoming sick as a result of reaction to smells.

Our local church here in B.C. has a small sign on the outside requesting that parishioners refrain from perfume in the building.

It's just not that petty any more to ask for air quality.

Barbara

[joemooch]

PS what is everyones favourite scent.

I prefer Mumm's Extra Brut. Dab the cork on the back of the neck...the rest orally.

[Leonid]

epi_centre - Just wondering how Halifax is going to enforce the "no perfume" ban for cruise pax. And exactly what do they define as "perfume?" Down where the ships dock, and we were there in 08/2005, I can't imagine anyone would notice? Again, the PC police are alive and well in "nanny" Canada.

[Leonid]

epi_centre - Just wondering how Halifax is going to enforce the "no perfume" ban for cruise pax. And exactly what do they define as "perfume?" Down where the ships dock, and we were there in 08/2005, I can't imagine anyone would notice? Again, the PC police are alive and well in "nanny" Canada.

[Leonid]

epi_centre - Just wondering how Halifax is going to enforce the "no perfume" ban for cruise pax. And exactly what do they define as "perfume?" Down where the ships dock, and we were there in 08/2005, I can't imagine anyone would notice! Again, the PC police are alive and well in "nanny" Canada.

[Liv4cruzin]

You've more than made your opinion known. Give it a rest!

[Liv4cruzin]

And back to your earlier quote "You people don't like what the paying pax. do, find another cruise line!". It's a universal problem; & there's no escaping it. I had lunch w/ an elderly aunt today; & I reluctantly mentioned that she had on too much perfume. She was so embarrassed; but was glad I told her. She mentioned that as she got older her sense of smell dulled; & she had no idea that she was using too much. That MIGHT be part of the problem w/ some pax.

[camNaud]

I prefer Mumm's Extra Brut. Dab the cork on the back of the neck...the rest orally.

 

Hey joemooch I hope you don't smoke too - I have a feeling you might explode if you 'light up' after drinking that stuff. :eek:

 

 

The city of Halifax, Nova Scotia, (Canada) has banned perfumes in public places. Just too many people were becoming sick as a result of reaction to smells.

 

That's just taking things too far - The No Fun PC Brethern Brigade need to lighten up.

 

Does that mean you get 'fined' or 'jailed' for wearing Channel No5?

 

People have all sort of allergies to all sorts of substances, you just can't go banning things because of section of population are allergic or have a disklike for them.

 

The list would become endless.

 

I'm allergic to 'bulls**t' and I have to put up with it all the time. I think it's time to ban that too.

[Leonid]

CamNaud - my apologies for my previous post...seems you and I are on the same wavelength. I can't wait to see what is next on the agenda for the Canadian PC police. In fact, I can't wait to see what's next here in the States.

[BeBeReader]

My 2 cents: I prefer the clean approach. Shower more; perfume less. If this is PC, so be it. I didn't realize that so many others have the same reaction to heave perfume/after shave that I have. It makes me want to puke. Maybe the next time I will -- all over the smelly person.

[WendyandBarry]

The scent that I use is Head&shoulders and bath&body (Strawberry/Pear) soaps, maybe, if some of the people who use too much perfume bathed once or twice a day, not a week, they wouldn't need that much scent.

 

Barry

[Druke I]

I am more sensitive to perfumes/colognes than tobacco smoke.

 

On our recently completed Nautica cruise, Istanbul to Singapore, I thought the tobacco smoke was very well contained, and rarely noticed it.

 

Unlike Hondorner above, I did note several "ladies" wearing what I would consider excessive fragrance. Most of the time, I could move away - but it got pretty bad in the elevators from time to time. My throat tightens up, and I start sneezing.

 

My wife thinks that most of the offenders have lost some of their sense of smell, and do not know that they might be offending others.

 

Princess has one Maitre 'd that uses cologne to excess - luckily we haven't seen him too often.

[Silvery Seas Cruiser]

PS what is everyones favourite scent.

 

I wear Givenchy Gentleman or YSL Opium For Men - both are nice classic scents.

 

Wife loves modern scents like Kenzo Jungle.

 

YSL's Opium is one that is particularly harmful to me, a life long asthmatic. In fact, most men's colognes and after shaves are too strong for me. They close my lungs down. I had to go to the emergency room after shaking hands with a man who must have bathed in after shave or men's cologne.

 

People just don't realize that perfumes and fragrances that are too strong can be just brutal for those who are susceptible. I don't think it is a matter of cost either. It is a matter of strength. I am bothered by cigarette smoke, but only women's and men's fragrances have sent me to the ER.

[cruznut1111]

Just a couple notes- strictly FYI, no judgements or grief, OK?

 

Allergies aren't a choice. They are instant severe problems. Not trying to spoil anyone's fun; just trying not to die today.

 

Perfumes choose between 200 chemicals, most industrial solvents, some with unknown responses. The law says they have to have a warning lable. The law is not enforced. Favorite chemicals are toluene and benzene. Zylene was voluntarily withdrawn 25 yrs ago when it was discovered to be a cancer causer. Three companies tried to add zylene to their formula in the last few years.

 

Many cigarettes have perfume in them. Many times that bad response isn't to the nicotine, but to the fragrant chemicals in them.

 

If you tried to get all perfume out of your home, it could take months of real effort.

 

To know if you might be in danger, get a piece of painted wood and spray a little perfume every time you put it on your body. If the paint blisters, you're in trouble.

 

As others have said, never let the habits of others interfer with having a wonderful trip.