cruising4u Posted July 31, 2007 #1 Share Posted July 31, 2007 We are cruising in Dec. 2007, one of my children which is 16 does not have a passport. If we miss the boat by some weird chance, will she be able to fly to the next port w/out a passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue L Posted July 31, 2007 #2 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Get the passport plenty of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakincakes Posted July 31, 2007 #3 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I agree..get the passport.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted July 31, 2007 #4 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Apply now! ;) *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethCarp Posted July 31, 2007 #5 Share Posted July 31, 2007 If it's Key West there will be no problem. But any foreign port she will not be allowed. Just get the passport. Today. And you should probably expedite it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted July 31, 2007 #6 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yes--she will be able to fly home. The U.S. has protocols in place for this situation. True--it may take a bit longer to do, but it IS doable. Don't worry! And DON'T MISS THE SHIP!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isujim Posted July 31, 2007 #7 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Even with the delays you should have time. Best insurance is to get the passport done now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFCruiser Posted July 31, 2007 #8 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yeah definately get the passport. I got mine two years ago and it took me about 5 weeks to recieve it. So have her apply for it, you have plenty of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katiel53 Posted July 31, 2007 #9 Share Posted July 31, 2007 We are cruising in Dec. 2007, one of my children which is 16 does not have a passport. If we miss the boat by some weird chance, will she be able to fly to the next port w/out a passport? I guess it would depend on the port. For example, to fly to the Caribbean, Canada or Mexico, you need a passport. So, if you missed the ship in the US, wanted to fly to Mexico, if you were even allowed to with the Jones, your child wouldn't be able to fly because of no passport. The ship's do have some kind of provision for people to fly back to the US in emergent conditions from these locations if there is no passport. I would definitely get a passport. The peace of mind alone is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-snoopy Posted July 31, 2007 #10 Share Posted July 31, 2007 We are cruising in Dec. 2007, one of my children which is 16 does not have a passport. If we miss the boat by some weird chance, will she be able to fly to the next port w/out a passport? Okay--first of all, the requirement of a PP is based on the destination. Depending on where your first port-of-call is, that country's policy would dictate whether you need a PP or not. As of the current policies for returning to the U.S.: Before January 1, 2008 (e.g. you are covered), all U.S. citizens will be able to return by sea travel without a PP (BC or naturalization papers proving U.S. citizenship and photo ID are all that are required). After January 1, 2008, PP will be required to re-enter the U.S. via sea travel. Effective already, you are required to have a PP to re-enter the U.S. by air travel. However, the PP office has a special policy in place right now due to the backlog of PP applications and the long delay in getting PP issued. The policy states that as long as you have applied for a PP and the application has been received and is being processed, then with proof of application, you will be able to re-enter the U.S. by air. The proof of receipt and processing is to go to the PP office web-site ( http://travel.state.gov/passport/about/npic/npic_898.html ) and there is a link to check on your application. You can print out the form that is returned and this will be proof of application that will enable you to re-enter the U.S. via air through January 1, 2008 without a PP. As I said at the top, this only covers returning to the U.S. For travel either by air or by sea to foreign countries, each country determines their own PP requirements. I would check out the information on travel.state.gov about entering that country to see if there are any special requirements for travel to that country. Sometimes countries make exceptions for sea travel such as by a cruise vs standard travel in. Most of the Caribbean countries are very easy-going with U.S. citizens entering their country. Most of the time, the U.S is much stricter about re-entry than the foreign countries are for entrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texancruzer Posted July 31, 2007 #11 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Okay--first of all, the requirement of a PP is based on the destination. Depending on where your first port-of-call is, that country's policy would dictate whether you need a PP or not. As of the current policies for returning to the U.S.: Before January 1, 2008 (e.g. you are covered), all U.S. citizens will be able to return by sea travel without a PP (BC or naturalization papers proving U.S. citizenship and photo ID are all that are required). After January 1, 2008, PP will be required to re-enter the U.S. via sea travel. Effective already, you are required to have a PP to re-enter the U.S. by air travel. However, the PP office has a special policy in place right now due to the backlog of PP applications and the long delay in getting PP issued. The policy states that as long as you have applied for a PP and the application has been received and is being processed, then with proof of application, you will be able to re-enter the U.S. by air. The proof of receipt and processing is to go to the PP office web-site ( http://travel.state.gov/passport/about/npic/npic_898.html ) and there is a link to check on your application. You can print out the form that is returned and this will be proof of application that will enable you to re-enter the U.S. via air through January 1, 2008 without a PP. As I said at the top, this only covers returning to the U.S. For travel either by air or by sea to foreign countries, each country determines their own PP requirements. I would check out the information on travel.state.gov about entering that country to see if there are any special requirements for travel to that country. Sometimes countries make exceptions for sea travel such as by a cruise vs standard travel in. Most of the Caribbean countries are very easy-going with U.S. citizens entering their country. Most of the time, the U.S is much stricter about re-entry than the foreign countries are for entrance. GOOD GRIEF...... there is still plenty of time to get her a passport - bite the bullet and apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinmom38 Posted July 31, 2007 #12 Share Posted July 31, 2007 DO IT !!!!!!:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrp96 Posted August 1, 2007 #13 Share Posted August 1, 2007 If it's Key West there will be no problem. If the next port is Key West, she wouldn't be allowed to board anyways because it would be a violation of the Passenger Services Act, unless the ship is going to Aruba. Get the passport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypo Posted August 1, 2007 #14 Share Posted August 1, 2007 If you do apply for the passport, make sure to have another certified copy of her birth certificate on hand, before you send the passport application (with a certified birth certificate). It would be really bad to have the date of your cruise arrive, with no passport in hand, and the only copy of the birth certificate is the one you sent with the passport application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysgrandma Posted August 1, 2007 #15 Share Posted August 1, 2007 If you do apply for the passport, make sure to have another certified copy of her birth certificate on hand, before you send the passport application (with a certified birth certificate). It would be really bad to have the date of your cruise arrive, with no passport in hand, and the only copy of the birth certificate is the one you sent with the passport application. You can easily obtain another copy of the birth certificate, either from going locally to your town hall or using VitalChek.com It seems people are getting their passports faster - if OP applies now, they shouldn't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Pedro Posted August 1, 2007 #16 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Okay--first of all, the requirement of a PP is based on the destination. Depending on where your first port-of-call is, that country's policy would dictate whether you need a PP or not. As of the current policies for returning to the U.S.: Before January 1, 2008 (e.g. you are covered), all U.S. citizens will be able to return by sea travel without a PP (BC or naturalization papers proving U.S. citizenship and photo ID are all that are required). After January 1, 2008, PP will be required to re-enter the U.S. via sea travel. Effective already, you are required to have a PP to re-enter the U.S. by air travel. However, the PP office has a special policy in place right now due to the backlog of PP applications and the long delay in getting PP issued. The policy states that as long as you have applied for a PP and the application has been received and is being processed, then with proof of application, you will be able to re-enter the U.S. by air. The proof of receipt and processing is to go to the PP office web-site ( http://travel.state.gov/passport/about/npic/npic_898.html ) and there is a link to check on your application. You can print out the form that is returned and this will be proof of application that will enable you to re-enter the U.S. via air through January 1, 2008 without a PP. As I said at the top, this only covers returning to the U.S. For travel either by air or by sea to foreign countries, each country determines their own PP requirements. I would check out the information on travel.state.gov about entering that country to see if there are any special requirements for travel to that country. Sometimes countries make exceptions for sea travel such as by a cruise vs standard travel in. Most of the Caribbean countries are very easy-going with U.S. citizens entering their country. Most of the time, the U.S is much stricter about re-entry than the foreign countries are for entrance. Not true! Currently this provision expires September 30, 2007. Those who have advised you to get your child's passport now have given you good advise. It is true that the Customs & Immigration Service can waive the passport requirements on an individual basis but you can expect to experience some red tape. One of the biggest challenges may be conviencing an airlines to let you on one of their airplanes. They don't want to be stuck with you in case immigration denies you entry into another country or back into the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28Fireman Posted August 1, 2007 #17 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Many people do not realize this. At age 15 or younger, one can travel with a birth certificate only. At age 16 or older, one traveling with a birth certificate needs a government-issued Photo ID (i.e. Driver's License) in addition to the birth certificate. If you live in a state where the driving age is not 16, this may be a problem. This is required and has been required for sea travel. It is on RCI's website if you look closely: http://www.royalcaribbean.com/beforeyouboard/passportGuidelines.do;jsessionid=0000scou9MCowQSuJCJjeTB6vk2:10ktmerri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtreebar Posted August 1, 2007 #18 Share Posted August 1, 2007 get it now and be done with it, and you will never need anything else but the passport!!! unless you want to risk thousands of dollars on a trip, over spending less than a hundred bucks do what you need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreewayFortune Posted August 1, 2007 #19 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Yes definately get the passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted August 1, 2007 #20 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Many people do not realize this. At age 15 or younger, one can travel with a birth certificate only. At age 16 or older, one traveling with a birth certificate needs a government-issued Photo ID (i.e. Driver's License) in addition to the birth certificate. If you live in a state where the driving age is not 16, this may be a problem. This is required and has been required for sea travel. It is on RCI's website if you look closely: http://www.royalcaribbean.com/beforeyouboard/passportGuidelines.do;jsessionid=0000scou9MCowQSuJCJjeTB6vk2:10ktmerri This is only addressing what RCI requires to get on the ship. The OP question was related to flying, which currently is an entirely different set of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbieGee Posted August 1, 2007 #21 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hmmm, friend is going with me on the 3 night cruise to Bahamas and Coco Kay. She believes she needs only a picture ID and her birth cert for this. True or not true? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer1966 Posted August 1, 2007 #22 Share Posted August 1, 2007 We are cruising in Dec. 2007, one of my children which is 16 does not have a passport. If we miss the boat by some weird chance, will she be able to fly to the next port w/out a passport? as others have already stated, get it now. Missing the ship is a big problem and then additional costs as well...take it from me...!!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Pedro Posted August 1, 2007 #23 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hmmm, friend is going with me on the 3 night cruise to Bahamas and Coco Kay. She believes she needs only a picture ID and her birth cert for this. True or not true? :eek: Yes and No. You didn't say when you were going on the cruise. If the cruise is in 2008 she will need a passport. If the cruise is completed in 2007 a birth certificate and government issued picture ID will get her aboard the ship. But, even in 2007, if for any reason such as a family/medical emergency or missing the ship causes a need air transportation she will need a passport. There many very helpful people on these boards but rules concerning travel change often. For the very latest and most accurate travel information we suggest that you visit www.travel.state.gov as well as www.tsa.gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbieGee Posted August 1, 2007 #24 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Yes and No. You didn't say when you were going on the cruise. If the cruise is in 2008 she will need a passport. If the cruise is completed in 2007 a birth certificate and government issued picture ID will get her aboard the ship. But, even in 2007, if for any reason such as a family/medical emergency or missing the ship causes a need air transportation she will need a passport. There many very helpful people on these boards but rules concerning travel change often. For the very latest and most accurate travel information we suggest that you visit www.travel.state.gov as well as www.tsa.gov. Our cruise will be Oct 26-29. Getting on board is one thing, but getting through customs when we return is the issue I worry about. So, will her birth cert. and a picture ID hold up coming back into Port Canaveral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Pedro Posted August 1, 2007 #25 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Our cruise will be Oct 26-29. Getting on board is one thing, but getting through customs when we return is the issue I worry about. So, will her birth cert. and a picture ID hold up coming back into Port Canaveral? If the birth certificate is a state issued certified copy there should not be any problem. Her travel documents will probably receive greater scrutiny from the cruise line than they will from the Customs and Immigration Service. Just be sure to safeguard the documents while you are on the cruise. We always keep ours in ths safe so we know where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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