cruisinjerseygirl Posted January 29, 2008 #1 Share Posted January 29, 2008 In my 30 years on this earth I have seen so many things happen with technoligy...the internet, cell phones, just about everything is different...wondering how things will be different in the cruising industry or the cruises and ships itself 30 years from now...what are your thoughts? What do you think or want them to do differently or add or think would be cool if it happened? Who knows what the world and technology will be by then but we can only wonder and think.... I honestly would love to hear everyone's opinions about how different Carnival can or will be by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Cassian Posted January 29, 2008 #2 Share Posted January 29, 2008 In 30 years everyone in the world will be members of this super CC message board and someone planning a CC cruise or roll call event will casually suggest that if everyone pitched in a few bucks they could just buy Carnival Cruise lines.... Hmmm :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phroggie Posted January 29, 2008 #3 Share Posted January 29, 2008 What do you think or want them to do differently or add or think would be cool if it happened? Who knows what the world and technology will be by then but we can only wonder and think.... I honestly would love to hear everyone's opinions about how different Carnival can or will be by then Replace the Diesel engines with photovoltaics. It will require something very innovative like each ship accompanied by a fleet (several dozen?) of robotic ships completely covered with photovoltaic panels providing the "real" ship with power. To give some idea of the amount of area needed, assume you're going to average, at best, no more than 0.1 to 0.15 kW per square meter. (That's average for day and night, for the year for the United States' latitude. YMMV closer to or farther from the equator.) I believe a Spirit class ship requires about 35,000kW just for propulsion. Obviously a lot of technological and logistical problems on which we can only speculate would have to be solved first. The payoff though is free fuel with no "carbon footprint." But I think the distance from here to there is a lot less than it was from Kitty Hawk to the 787 Dreamliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinggartk Posted January 29, 2008 #4 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Replace the Diesel engines with photovoltaics. It will require something very innovative like each ship accompanied by a fleet (several dozen?) of robotic ships completely covered with photovoltaic panels providing the "real" ship with power. To give some idea of the amount of area needed, assume you're going to average, at best, no more than 0.1 to 0.15 kW per square meter. (That's average for day and night, for the year for the United States' latitude. YMMV closer to or farther from the equator.) I believe a Spirit class ship requires about 35,000kW just for propulsion. Obviously a lot of technological and logistical problems on which we can only speculate would have to be solved first. The payoff though is free fuel with no "carbon footprint." But I think the distance from here to there is a lot less than it was from Kitty Hawk to the 787 Dreamliner. How long do you think it will be before we see our first 300,000 ton Cruise Ship? I bet not 30 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted January 29, 2008 #5 Share Posted January 29, 2008 In my 30 years on this earth I have seen so many things happen with technoligy...the internet, cell phones, just about everything is different...wondering how things will be different in the cruising industry or the cruises and ships itself 30 years from now...what are your thoughts? What do you think or want them to do differently or add or think would be cool if it happened? Who knows what the world and technology will be by then but we can only wonder and think.... I honestly would love to hear everyone's opinions about how different Carnival can or will be by then I think you should do a search on "history of the internet"...been around since before you were born. Nuclear cruise ships get my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvindia Posted January 29, 2008 #6 Share Posted January 29, 2008 In my 30 years on this earth.... you are still a spring chick :D i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinggartk Posted January 29, 2008 #7 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think you should do a search on "history of the internet"...been around since before you were born. Nuclear cruise ships get my vote. Techincally you are correct...but only the Military and colleges had access before about 15 years ago. Aren't you Glad we have such a visionary among us (Al Gore) to invent such a wonderful idea as the internet?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ClevelandRocks- Posted January 29, 2008 #8 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Nuclear cruise ships get my vote. Where will we store the spent fuel..............your yard??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted January 29, 2008 #9 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Techincally you are correct...but only the Military and colleges had access before about 15 years ago. Aren't you Glad we have such a visionary among us (Al Gore) to invent such a wonderful idea as the internet?:rolleyes: Yes...I know...i work for the organization who "invented" it.:rolleyes: Al Gore is an idiot.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted January 29, 2008 #10 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Where will we store the spent fuel..............your yard??? I can think of several places where they would be out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbearit Posted January 29, 2008 #11 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'm sure that in the next 30 years the propulsion systems will be so different from what we have now that something like solar power or something similar will not be as big a hurdle. I read the article on the first page of CC yesterday about "green" cruises. Personally I was a little disappointed that so few cruise lines are doing anything more than the absolute minimum. If we can't count on them to do all they can with the technology today, how an we count on them for alternate forms of fuel? 30 years...that's so cute! :D Just a little fun pokin Jersey don't get mad! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorseFarmer Posted January 29, 2008 #12 Share Posted January 29, 2008 In 30 years I will be ready to sell my Carnival apartment and check into the Carnival Old Folks Home. :D And I'm Totally serious. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserGuy1234 Posted January 29, 2008 #13 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Where will we store the spent fuel..............your yard??? fusion technology is not like fission of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ClevelandRocks- Posted January 29, 2008 #14 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I can think of several places where they would be out of the way. And transporting it there??? I spent several years building and doing the 1st + 2cnd refuel at PNPP. In fact, I've got a good pair of Redwings and Levis in a 55 gallon barrel filled with concrete still there. I got sent home in January in a white paper suit. When the fuel pool fills up, game over! But hey, the guys at the union hall will make another fortune pumping it fulla concrete. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinjerseygirl Posted January 29, 2008 Author #15 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Wow what hostility...just wondering what everyone thout it would be like...and yes I knew that the internet was around before I was born...but with the way the world is now it is extremely different from what it was 20 years ago that was the point I was trying to make! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempa Posted January 29, 2008 #16 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Faster and more fuel efficient engines. More advanced hull design and composite materials. Bigger ships (duh). Full wall surround flat screen TVs creating any mood you want in your cabin. Biometrics documentation and money will make checking in and out much easier. Iris scan or face recognition for boarding. Computerized menu tables where you can see your food before you order it and make any mix and match choices. Easy system to order tours, spa treatments, and room service from your cabin. Better and cheaper ship to shore communication: telephones, internet. Kids will still crowd the adult hot tubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froufie Posted January 29, 2008 #17 Share Posted January 29, 2008 More tv stations/satellite that is NOT out of Denver Hot meals delivered via room service Pre-ordering specialty dinner items via in cabin tv system A special deck chair in my choice of location with my name on it :) ...and definitely the Carnival Cruiselines Retirement Home at Sea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted January 29, 2008 #18 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Aren't you Glad we have such a visionary among us (Al Gore) to invent such a wonderful idea as the internet?:rolleyes: Someone should give him an Oscar or a Nobel award:p oh I forgot they did:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted January 29, 2008 #19 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Actually if you compare the cruise industry to the airline industry, 30 years from now the cruising experience might not be as good. The capacity might increase, technology might increase in terms of fuel savings and navigating storms. But many folks would rather have the airline experience of 30 years ago compared to todays experience. We might just look back 10,20,or 30 years from now and say those were the good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ClevelandRocks- Posted January 29, 2008 #20 Share Posted January 29, 2008 We might just look back 10,20,or 30 years from now and say those were the good old days. Ugh-Oh, sign of old age! I do that now, if fact, the older I get, the better I was. But, you make a good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 30, 2008 #21 Share Posted January 30, 2008 30 Years from now.....:rolleyes: We sit down in the main dining room (specialty dining was eliminated) for a nice quiet meal and are given excellent hot food and great service. The wait staff keeps our food coming, our drinks full, changes our silverware, and even keeps removing the crumbs off the table cloth. Due to a great new computer system, when we get on the Cruise, one of our first stops is NOT the Matre'D to get our seating times, table assignment, dining room assignment, etc. corrected to what we originally asked for like we have each of the four times we have cruise C. I am not disturbed while reading my book because the crew is rearranging furniture to set up photographers and we are not stuck in crowds trying to get around them because the ship builders have finally built them their very own studio on the ship! We sit with a bunch of great people at dinner with no surprises because we filled out a 40 questions survey upon booking detailing what type of people we are as well as the type of people we do and do not want to sit with. Their new computer matches everyone up perfectly. We have no surprises on the cruise ship about the crowd that is sailing becasue all cruise lines must disclose to everyone groups over 20 people going on the cruise and give you the option to cancel with a full refund. All group are required to register. Cruise ships are now the places to be for entertainers! There is first class talent everywhere on the ship and not a bunch of near famous retreads who were barely heard of 30 years ago. Kereokee exists on the ship but as a limited novelty for those enthusiests, but is not used as a replacement for the ships entertainment. Casinos have gone 'Retro'. The latest fad is these machines that you stick a coin in, pull a handle, and if you win, a bunch of coins come clinking out! All the Cruise lines have formed together to form their own bank. As such, they now print their own money that is honored around the world. No one has to worry about currency conversions while on a cruise ship. At all ports, you no longer dock or tender. Instead, you 'Tock'. The ship parks over an underwater tunnel system that goes beneath the harbor floor. A docking system with an airlock and an elevator connect to the bottom of the ship. You get on the designated elevators and just hit buttons to go to the bottom. At the bottom, you get on a moving walkway. When you immerge, you are at the port. You can see your ship anchored but their are no dock to harm the landcape or the environment. Still thinking......:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 30, 2008 #22 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Oh, and 30 years from now I will spell a lot better:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fllady61 Posted January 30, 2008 #23 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I forsee a one time only sail and sign card. Once you receive one, you will have to keep it to get on your next cruise. however charging priveliages, and ability to unlock a door will only be activated when you are booked. There will be a microchip in them to help keep track of you on the ship, and no need to show sign and sail cards, just do a thumbprint type signing of your bill. I forsee them giving you a cell phone when you get on board, and all cabins having laptop computers in them for convience. Of course there will still be the minimal charge for them if they are used. the ships will sail much smoother because they will be run more by computers than they are now. It will be like floating on air, not water. Wheelchair users will be more those things that float on air, so they can go above the main crowd, and won't have such a hard time getting on and off the ship in the ports. The casino machines will be different. they will not accept money at all, but will just use your s&s card. Any winnings will go to your bank account, not your sail and sign card. Thus a link from your sail and sign card to your bank account. The captain will be able to tell where every guest is baised on their s&s card microchip. If someone is not on the ship on time, they can turn on a gps unit and find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINEVIEW01 Posted January 30, 2008 #24 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Faster and more fuel efficient engines.More advanced hull design and composite materials. Bigger ships (duh). Full wall surround flat screen TVs creating any mood you want in your cabin. Biometrics documentation and money will make checking in and out much easier. Iris scan or face recognition for boarding. Computerized menu tables where you can see your food before you order it and make any mix and match choices. Easy system to order tours, spa treatments, and room service from your cabin. Better and cheaper ship to shore communication: telephones, internet. Kids will still crowd the adult hot tubs. Loved you response. Keeping in tune to the OP's ? and tone. Cruise Cat loved Yours too!! I didn't see a spelling problem:) fllady61 you got it going on:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted January 30, 2008 #25 Share Posted January 30, 2008 quote=Mikel 1733 But many folks would rather have the airline experience of 30 years ago compared to todays experience. We might just look back 10,20,or 30 years from now and say those were the good old days. Of course this will be the case - it always happens. :) I recall when I was around 12, asking my mother who was talking about when she was young, if 1962 would ever seen like a long time ago. Everything was so modern and we had such fantastic technology - TV's, Princess phones, Sputnik, I couldn't imagine all of this ever seeming old fashioned. Well, I'm now 57 and boy does 1962 seem like another world and in some ways better, even though it really wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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