Glory leaving PC?

[PCcruiser_x]

I've worked in the commercial construction business for 14 years as a project manager and I can tell you Fincantieri has been working for many months (prior to actual construction) obtaining bids from subcontractors and suppliers during the design phase. BUT the actual construction phase of 18 months is fairly accurate and trust me, not ONE supply is ordered and no subcontractors are hired until that signed contract is in Fincantieri's hands. The design phase and the construction phase are two different things - in your original post you referred to "the Dream being under construction for years". I'm assuming you meant "under design for years".

 

 

What you say is basically true. I too am a program manager. I also work in the upfront marketing and design phase. Perhaps I misspoke once. But, from the time that the CEO signs off on a new ship until the delivery is 3 1/2 to 4 years. That is the project and that is my point. There are many phases. They will have an initial schedule that will be modified as the project progresses. In the end they will have a schedule that they believe in and will make an announcement on a firm date. That has not happened yet.

 

As to if Fincantieri would issue a contract to a subcontractor before receive their 3 year contract(yes, I did say 3 years) to design and construct, that depends. If CCL is aware of a long backlong from the engine manufacturer or other supplier, they will either issue the contract early themselves or issue an advanced contract to Fincantieri.

 

I really think that we are splitting hairs. One person said that it takes 18 months to construct the ship and that seems to be accurate. I say that the entire process takes 4 years. Another says that the process starts before the construction phase and that too is accurate.

[CynLovesCrusing]

:mad: FORTHELOVEOFGOD can you guys quit it. This thread is about the moving/non moving of the Glory, not how long it takes to build, construct, think about, look at, smoke, wash, eat, blah blah blah........a frickin new ship. Start your own thread if you want to argue with each other about that.

 

Jeez!!

[fllady61]

Hi, I am very curious. I was planning on booking the Glory in the next few days for next June out of PC. We chose that port for convience of my parents living near Olrando. Were are they thinking of moving her to? That may alter my decision on my cruise. Any info much appreciated.

 

 

first off, she goes in dry dock in September. so if you want to book June you will be ok on glory. Dream is scheduled to come to PC in either late September or early October from what I understood.

 

I believe it was either Miami, or Jax port. since there are few and far ships leaving Jaxport right now. With the Celebration gone, that just leaves the 4,5 day Fasination from there. I understand that one of the ships is going there to replace Celebration.

[chandom]

... With the Celebration gone, that just leaves the 4,5 day Fasination from there. I understand that one of the ships is going there to replace Celebration.

The Fascination is the replacement for the Celebration. Fascination starts sailing from Jax in September 08.

 

Also, from what I understand no ship taller than the Spirit class is able to fit under the Dames Point bridge in Jax.

 

Added:

Not sure if it has started yet or not, but the cruise terminal was going to be rebuilt/relocated to before the bridge.

 

When / if the Glory moves my gut felling is it will be the result of New Orleans getting a larger ship.

[PCcruiser_x]

:mad: FORTHELOVEOFGOD can you guys quit it. This thread is about the moving/non moving of the Glory, not how long it takes to build, construct, think about, look at, smoke, wash, eat, blah blah blah........a frickin new ship. Start your own thread if you want to argue with each other about that.

 

Jeez!!

 

Does everyone understand our new orders? You're not supposed to talk about any ship but Glory and only to the extent of Glory's possible move out of PC.

 

Yawn............. damn I'm bored already!

 

Is basketball over yet?

[Cuizer2]

Does everyone understand our new orders? You're not supposed to talk about any ship but Glory and only to the extent of Glory's possible move out of PC.

 

Yawn............. damn I'm bored already!

 

Is basketball over yet?

 

Well, I was watching the Glory last Saturday, and sure enough, late in the afternoon it left PC. So hopefully Carnival will send another ship to PC to replace the Glory.

[jamon]

Not all of us would be happy if they replaced the Glory with the Dream on 10/17/09, since I have one of the 1a cabins with the two windows, at the 1a price and though I may end up on a newer ship if the Dream takes over, my room would definitly change since these 1a's are now 6b's....

[chandom]

No news on Norfolk. Dream will do a few European cruises I predict and then move to PC and replace the Glory. Glory to Miami....all speculation..of course *g* oh and by the way I am not a him.

And once again you called it.

 

Glory to Miami, with that set I can only assume (like you said) the Triumph will visit NOLA after doing the NE runs.

 

 

Now I feel sorry for all the folk between October to December that get their Glory cruise canned.

[tha sista]

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[bcs819]

unless I jump ship and do NCl, not too thrilled about doing that.

 

 

Don't do it. We did it and it was incredibly disappointing - read my review in my siggy :(

[PCcruiser_x]

http://www.carnival.com/cms/fun/ships/carnival_dream/default.aspx?shipCode=DR/

[MamaParrotHead]

And once again you called it.

 

Glory to Miami, with that set I can only assume (like you said) the Triumph will visit NOLA after doing the NE runs.

 

 

Now I feel sorry for all the folk between October to December that get their Glory cruise canned.

 

Yeah, it bites. But my PVP seems to think we may still be on the Glory, just out of Miami instead of Pt. Canaveral. Any thoughts on that?

[suzyaz]

RCCL's Freedom of the Seas might be moved when RCCL launches its brand new "Oasis of the Seas", their largest ship yet. It would make sense if they are bringing it to sail out of Miami, to move the Freedom of the Seas somewhere else.:D

 

Freedom Of The Seas will be out of Port Canaveral this coming year...2009. Cause we are booking it for Sept. 2009. It's already on Travel Agent Sites.

 

Suzy

[FLCruiser001]

Yeah, it bites. But my PVP seems to think we may still be on the Glory, just out of Miami instead of Pt. Canaveral. Any thoughts on that?

 

We're in the same situation as you folks, and would rather not sail from Miami. Partly because the drive for us to Miami is more than twice the drive for us to Port Canaveral, also because of the problems we have read about Port Miami on this board.

[CynLovesCrusing]

Thanks again Ms. Legend for giving us the heads up about the Glory & Dream changes.

I can't wait to hear what's going to happen next. Anything else you can tell us??

[MamaParrotHead]

We're in the same situation as you folks, and would rather not sail from Miami. Partly because the drive for us to Miami is more than twice the drive for us to Port Canaveral, also because of the problems we have read about Port Miami on this board.

 

 

Yes. We have to bite the bullet with airfare no matter where we sail from, and actually Orlando has better airfare deals than Miami. I'm just impatient and have about 40 other people to answer to and can't figure out for the life of me why Carnival would make the press announcement yet not have the PVP's informed and a "game plan" for us cruising refugees in limbo.:confused:

[Cuizer2]

I'll be keeping my

 

 

on the

 

 

to see if she leaves PC. :)