Dream- toned down?

[marinearchit]

Looking at the few renderings, does anybody else think the Dream's interiors look toned down compared to other Carnival ships? Personally, I think she looks great.

 

I haven't actually saild Carnival, only seen virtual tours, pictures, etc. But, just wondering if any Carnival cruisers noticed this.

[*Mach*]

Looking at the few renderings, does anybody else think the Dream's interiors look toned down compared to other Carnival ships? Personally, I think she looks great.

 

I haven't actually saild Carnival, only seen virtual tours, pictures, etc. But, just wondering if any Carnival cruisers noticed this.

 

 

She actually is toned down... Joe Farcus departed from the norm for the Dream. Normally, he develops a 'central theme' that he then spreads throughout the ship... one public room after another.

In the case of the Dream he's giving each space it's own distinctive look.

[Wennfred]

I haven't had the time to check out the pictures because I have to get to bed soon but one thing I did notice in the deck plan is that Deck 5 is once again the only deck you can walk from bow to stern. Deck 4 you have to manuver around or go through the dining room like on the other ships.

 

Well, I like both Eastern and Western trips, been to them before but Costa Maya and Belize would be cool to go again but then again I want to check out Maho Beach in St. Maarten, oh well maybe a B2B cruise would fix that.

 

 

Fred

[AdrenalineRush]

Farcus and toned down?? Dont count on it :) He doesnt know how to tone it down and Carnival loves it that way.

 

Not sure one can even say from the pictures I have seen, nothing but the outside cafes have been "rendered" artistically and those dont always end up looking the same way.

 

Lets wait until we see the interior rooms, thats when Farcus gets carried away.

[cruising together]

where are the pictures?

[*Mach*]

I haven't had the time to check out the pictures because I have to get to bed soon but one thing I did notice in the deck plan is that Deck 5 is once again the only deck you can walk from bow to stern. Deck 4 you have to manuver around or go through the dining room like on the other ships.

 

Well, I like both Eastern and Western trips, been to them before but Costa Maya and Belize would be cool to go again but then again I want to check out Maho Beach in St. Maarten, oh well maybe a B2B cruise would fix that.

 

 

Fred

 

 

Hey, Fred... take another look at deck 4. There's actually a promenade that runs on the starboard side, the length of the ship, and takes you directly to the aft restaurant with no detours...

[AdrenalineRush]

where are the pictures?

 

 

pics

 

 

[david08]

Where are these pictures coming from??

 

Keep them coming!

[Wennfred]

[Flip2cruise]

Where are these pictures coming from??

 

Keep them coming!

 

 

http://carnival-news.com/2008/06/23/design-itinerary-details-unveiled-for-new-130000-ton-carnival-dream-largest-fun-ship-ever-constructed/

[cruising together]

thanks guys

[DarthGrady]

I gotta tell ya, I just got done looking at the deck plans and I was getting a little dissapointed until I got to Promenade deck. Then the differences from the Conquest class became much more apparent. (Even though the RCI folks will call copyright infringement on the cantilevered hot tubs!)

 

I really dig the exterior wrap around promenade, totally harkens back the ocean liner days. I think you hit the nail on the head Mach when you said that Carnival likes to draw folks out to the sea, rather than keep them inside. Those exterior cafes are a nice touch too.

 

I like that they arent enclosing the aft pool anymore. Makes the view much better. Thats what I always liked about the Verandah deck aft pools on the Fantasy class ships.

 

The placement of the golf and basketball areas seem to make more sense. The winds will be alot less in the middle, always a game spoiler on the Fantasy class.

 

The waterpark looks like it will be sweet. It appears that one of the slides empties into on of those "toilet bowl" things like you see at land based waterparks. Odd though, that the spray park is at a different location than the slides.

 

Looks like the spa layout (hope the Thalasso pool is free!) and the layout of the aft cabaret lounge comes directly from Splendor. As does the Lido deck layout and placement of the Supper Club.

 

This is all very exciting!

[cruising together]

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[david08]

Im guessing there wont be to much information on this cabins since all of this info was released today

[kkorman]

Not much of a view down at the ocean. I liked the toned down though.

[*Mach*]

I gotta tell ya, I just got done looking at the deck plans and I was getting a little dissapointed until I got to Promenade deck. Then the differences from the Conquest class became much more apparent. (Even though the RCI folks will call copyright infringement on the cantilevered hot tubs!)

 

I really dig the exterior wrap around promenade, totally harkens back the ocean liner days. I think you hit the nail on the head Mach when you said that Carnival likes to draw folks out to the sea, rather than keep them inside. Those exterior cafes are a nice touch too.

 

I like that they arent enclosing the aft pool anymore. Makes the view much better. Thats what I always liked about the Verandah deck aft pools on the Fantasy class ships.

 

The placement of the golf and basketball areas seem to make more sense. The winds will be alot less in the middle, always a game spoiler on the Fantasy class.

 

The waterpark looks like it will be sweet. It appears that one of the slides empties into on of those "toilet bowl" things like you see at land based waterparks. Odd though, that the spray park is at a different location than the slides.

 

Looks like the spa layout (hope the Thalasso pool is free!) and the layout of the aft cabaret lounge comes directly from Splendor. As does the Lido deck layout and placement of the Supper Club.

 

This is all very exciting!

 

In one of the other threads regarding the Oasis someone mentioned that RCI might be appealing to the new cruising family, a family that might be more at home at a theme park or a mall and I believe that to be correct. Keeping that in mind, I also believe that without the romance of the sea RCI built a vessel that won't have any, or very few, return passengers.

What makes us sail? What brings us back to ships time and time again? The wonderful shopping on board? No. The superior latte that you got in a brand name café? No. The fact that your ship looks like the main street in your home town? No. It's the sea. The sea brings us back. The sea is the hook. The sea is the main character in this amazing drama.

The Dream invites you to linger with sea views. It invites you to smell salt air and perhaps even feel the spray on your face from a Cove balcony.

Carnival, in my opinion, 'gets it'. They understand why we cruise not just how to get us on a ship.

From everything I've seen, the Dream is a spot on accomplishment. I'm stunned and thrilled...

[CanTex]

I gotta tell ya, I just got done looking at the deck plans and I was getting a little dissapointed until I got to Promenade deck. Then the differences from the Conquest class became much more apparent. (Even though the RCI folks will call copyright infringement on the cantilevered hot tubs!)

 

I really dig the exterior wrap around promenade, totally harkens back the ocean liner days. I think you hit the nail on the head Mach when you said that Carnival likes to draw folks out to the sea, rather than keep them inside. Those exterior cafes are a nice touch too.

 

I like that they arent enclosing the aft pool anymore. Makes the view much better. Thats what I always liked about the Verandah deck aft pools on the Fantasy class ships.

 

The placement of the golf and basketball areas seem to make more sense. The winds will be alot less in the middle, always a game spoiler on the Fantasy class.

 

The waterpark looks like it will be sweet. It appears that one of the slides empties into on of those "toilet bowl" things like you see at land based waterparks. Odd though, that the spray park is at a different location than the slides.

 

Looks like the spa layout (hope the Thalasso pool is free!) and the layout of the aft cabaret lounge comes directly from Splendor. As does the Lido deck layout and placement of the Supper Club.

 

This is all very exciting!

The indoor/outdoor Promenade deck cafes are really going to change things up, bringing a lot more people to deck 5. I think that will be a great place to be in the late evenings... food and drink options close to the dance clubs and casino.

 

Note in addition to the 4 cantilievered spa tubs on deck 5, there are two adjacent to the railings on the Panorama deck.

 

I really like how with deck 4 there is an interior promenade so there's another lower public deck where you can go the length of the ship around the dining rooms. Now the whiners will only have deck 3 to complain about being broken up by the galley.

 

I also like the open aft pool area -- brings back one of the nicest features from the Fantasy class.

[HighlandCruzer]

In one of the other threads regarding the Oasis someone mentioned that RCI might be appealing to the new cruising family, a family that might be more at home at a theme park or a mall and I believe that to be correct. Keeping that in mind, I also believe that without the romance of the sea RCI built a vessel that won't have any, or very few, return passengers.

What makes us sail? What brings us back to ships time and time again? The wonderful shopping on board? No. The superior latte that you got in a brand name café? No. The fact that your ship looks like the main street in your home town? No. It's the sea. The sea brings us back. The sea is the hook. The sea is the main character in this amazing drama.

The Dream invites you to linger with sea views. It invites you to smell salt air and perhaps even feel the spray on your face from a Cove balcony.

Carnival, in my opinion, 'gets it'. They understand why we cruise not just how to get us on a ship.

From everything I've seen, the Dream is a spot on accomplishment. I'm stunned and thrilled...

 

I just don't see the hype generated by this ship. It's just a super-sized version of the Conquest with a few more bells and whistles due to its bigger size. You say Carnival "invites you to linger with sea views and smell the salt air." Maybe it does, but some of the ships "highlights" have been staples on other cruise lines across over a half-dozen or more ships. A "wrap around promenade?" RCCL has had these for God knows how long, and made even better since 1999 on their voyager-class vessels. Cantilevered whirlpools? Do I even need to say it?

 

Not to mention how crowded the Dream is going to be, taking the same amount of guests that the 155,000 ton Freedom of the Seas holds and squeezing them into a smaller 128,000 ton ship. Trust me, that extra 27,000+ tons really helps control those crowds.

 

Oasis, you know the ship you accuse of taking away the sea from its guests, will take the love of water and the sea to new heights (not to mention 18 decks of fun).

 

Where else could you possibly get a commanding view of the sea like this?

 

You have to realize that Oasis doesn't in any way take the sea away from anyone. That's absurd. The ship's top decks 13-18 will hold some of the most impressive sea views to be found anywhere on any ship sailing. The ship's promenade will still be able to take you around the ship (a new Carnival "feature") and also to the bow of the ship where you will have to go if you want a real exhilarating look at the sea.

 

 

All the things you cite, the shopping, cafes, the main street (royal promenade), all have that certain je ne sais quoi that makes it special. Zip-lining down Boardwalk, surfing on the flowriders, relaxing in the cantilevered whirlpools (I guess Carnival thought they were a good idea too), having a romantic dinner under the stars at Central Park, or maybe a drink with friends in the impressive, not to mention cool, Rising Tide bar or maybe entertain some friends from your Loft Suite overlooking the ocean from Deck 17? You might think they're gimmicky, but for many of us looking at this ship, those types of things are what we find exciting and a nice change from the simple and redundant "4 pools, 15 bars, 4 lounges" type of fun.

 

This post is in no way to bash Carnival, as I understand we all have our preferred cruise line, but your generalizations on the Oasis are way off the mark. When it debuts next year, I have no doubt that it will have so many of its passengers saying "Oh-My-God!" or "Wow! That's amazing!" The ship will be successful just like every other one has before it. It will debut with the most features, innovations, and sea views than any other ship afloat.

[*Mach*]

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Oasis, you know the ship you accuse of taking away the sea from its guests, will take the love of water and the sea to new heights (not to mention 18 decks of fun).

 

 

 

 

 

You have one feature to support your point... the Amphitheater. I've already said, in another thread, that I really like this feature.

There is no 'je ne sais quoi' in a shopping mall and a burger stand, or at least there isn't for me. And that, after all, is the point. It's not there for ME. I'm expressing my opinion and you're expressing yours.

I won't sail on the Oasis of the Seas. I don't need a mall, I don't need a zip line (and tell me that's not a gimmick... along with the silliness of an ice skating rink...) I don't need a rock wall. I need MY experience of the sea, MY experience of a cruise. Bottom line... Carnival does this for me.

[nolaAlive]

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Where else could you possibly get a commanding view of the sea like this?

 

 

If they got rid of the damn theater people really could see the water.

 

[HighlandCruzer]

If they got rid of the damn theater people really could see the water.

 

 

Actually the theater doubles as a place to sunbathe and swim during the day, as the performance pool will turn into the world's largest pool at sea during the day for guest use at depths up to 18ft. and a system that allows the depth to change by raising or lowering the bottom. There are also bridges and paths behind the stage and pool for guests as well.

 

It's all about multi-functional space. Just like the "ice rink" that Mach called silly. If he actually sailed on the ship, he would know that Studio B actually has a floor that can cover the ice for use during larger events. It was used on the Voyager to host many activities such as Quest and Country night where our captain got out his guitar and put on a show for us Texans :)

 

Back on topic, my main point is that Carnival really had an opportunity to design and invent some really cool and interesting things here. They instead stuck with a formula that has done well for them in the past, and that's ok, but I don't see one thing on the Dream which you would want to highlight in the news or on a commercial as groundbreaking. The Dream will launch with little fanfare, but the Oasis will have the world watching. I'm just dissapointed.

[nolaAlive]

No need to be disappointed. RCCL will just have to try harder next time, that's all.

 

What's Oasis?

[CanTex]

Actually the theater doubles as a place to sunbathe and swim during the day, as the performance pool will turn into the world's largest pool at sea during the day for guest use at depths up to 18ft. and a system that allows the depth to change by raising or lowering the bottom. There are also bridges and paths behind the stage and pool for guests as well.

 

It's all about multi-functional space. Just like the "ice rink" that Mach called silly. If he actually sailed on the ship, he would know that Studio B actually has a floor that can cover the ice for use during larger events. It was used on the Voyager to host many activities such as Quest and Country night where our captain got out his guitar and put on a show for us Texans :)

 

Back on topic, my main point is that Carnival really had an opportunity to design and invent some really cool and interesting things here. They instead stuck with a formula that has done well for them in the past, and that's ok, but I don't see one thing on the Dream which you would want to highlight in the news or on a commercial as groundbreaking. The Dream will launch with little fanfare, but the Oasis will have the world watching. I'm just dissapointed.

If the price to pay for Oasis is all the sneaky cutbacks on RCI (go look at the "Cost-cutting measures on RCCL ships" thread in the RCI forum), then I'd rather take the more modest innovations that Carnival is offering. I'll still probably go at least once on Oasis or Allure, but once will likely be enough for me.

[HighlandCruzer]

What's Oasis?

 

 

PR Newswire

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080623/clm096.html?.v=69

 

Miami Herald

http://www.miamiherald.com/breaking_business/story/577944.html

 

Yahoo! Finance

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080618/clw051.html?.v=101

 

New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/travel/22COMroyal.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

 

USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruises/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=51507930.blog&csp=34

 

MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25331750/page/2/

 

Sun-Sentinel

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/sfl-flzcruise0619sbjun19,0,5570792.story?track=rss

 

Channel 4 (UK)

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/cruise+liner+will+have+tree+view/2291692

 

e-Travel Blackboard (Austrailia)

http://www.etravelblackboard.com/showarticle.asp?id=79083&nav=5

 

UK Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/cruises/2154393/Giant-cruise-liner-Oasis-of-the-Seas-to-have-world's-first-bar-in-a-lift.html

 

Daily Mail (UK)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027681/Pictured-The-state-art-luxuries-aboard-worlds-largest-cruise-ship.html

[HighlandCruzer]

If the price to pay for Oasis is all the sneaky cutbacks on RCI (go look at the "Cost-cutting measures on RCCL ships" thread in the RCI forum), then I'd rather take the more modest innovations that Carnival is offering. I'll still probably go at least once on Oasis or Allure, but once will likely be enough for me.

 

I read that thread and it's subjective, just like all of our opinions. Fortunately, I'm blessed to not have to worry about money so the "nickel and dime" complaints are moot for me. However, it hasn't stopped many people from sailing the ships as the demand is still high.