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Will the Mouse be visiting Fun Ship Freddy?

Mikel1733

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dan40

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Disney corporation is one of the largest entertainment corporations in the world. It is number 2 behind Time Warner on the Fortune 500 for entertinment companies and number 67 overall. In 2007 it had revenues of over $35 billion. Disney may only have 2 cruise ships but it is much larger than Carnival Corporation. Disney could buy Carnival. I find it unlikely in todays credit market but not impossible.

 

 

 

Disney 27 Sep. 2008

Net Tangible Assets $7,744,000,000.

 

CCL 31 Aug. 2008

Net Tangible Assets $15,462,000,000.

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DGP1111

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Carnival shareholders may be interested to learn that Doug Kass of the Street.com has posted his 20 surprises of 2009 and one of the surprises is that Disney will buy out Carnival. Kass stated 60% of his 20 surprises of 2008 were substantially correct. Time will tell I guess.

 

I am officially taking my 2009 salary to Las Vegas and placing the entire thing on the betting table. I'm betting on the '40% chance' that this entire idea (of Kass) is more than a wee bit doofus.

Now to decide on how to spend my definite financial return. Hmmmmm

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aggieastrosfan

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I hope this isn't true, because honestly, if I wanted to take a Disney cruise, I'd book one. All I know is that I have never sailed Disney because their ships have no gambling...I hope they wouldn't try to adopt that policy to Carnival as well.... :mad:

 

I know this whole idea is a very far-fetched longshot at best - but if they ever removed casinos from Carnival ships, you can bet I'd never set foot on one ever again. But I don't even want to consider that a possibility, so I'm calling no way in Hades on this one. :p

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NeptunesGoddess

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You mean the mouse better have a lot of CHEESE!!

 

I hope this isn't true, because honestly, if I wanted to take a Disney cruise, I'd book one. All I know is that I have never sailed Disney because their ships have no gambling...I hope they wouldn't try to adopt that policy to Carnival as well.... :mad:

 

I agree with you there. Although I really really want to take a Disney cruise, my hubby will not do it because they don't have casinos. He really enjoys his Texas Hold 'em and Black Jack on a cruise. I have to admit, I love to sit down at a black jack table myself, but I don't HAVE to have a casino. The only way I am going to get on a Disney Cruise is if I do a "girls getaway cruise".

 

If Disney buys out Carnival, I hope they do not do away with Casinos.

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I could see an agreement between Carnival and Disney for Carnival to operate the Disney Ships. But no way could Disney buy Carnival. Might work the other way tho. Carnival buying Disney?

 

My broker sent me a notice that Carnival Stock was a "Buy" because of advance bookings. It also mentioned that CCL and Carnival LTD. together operate 48% of all passenger cruise Vessels on the Planet. I think if Disney were to buy Carnival, they would then pass Microsoft and be pushing WalMart as the largest company in the world.

 

Ain't gonna happen.

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sam1148

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Could we just put all the CEO's in a "Thunderdome" or Highlander type thing and put on pay per view and let them fight it out until one leaves the victor?

 

Geeze...soon we'll be worse via capitalism than dystopian novels of the 40's and 50's warning about 'one brand of stuff' via communism.

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LemurCat

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Could we just put all the CEO's in a "Thunderdome" or Highlander type thing and put on pay per view and let them fight it out until one leaves the victor?

 

Geeze...soon we'll be worse via capitalism than dystopian novels of the 40's and 50's warning about 'one brand of stuff' via communism.

 

I'm waiting for Wal-Mart and Microsoft to fake an alien invasion ala The Watchmen to bring about world peace, lower prices, and the Vista Revolution. :p

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I've been studying Disney's financial and operational records for the past year, as part of my Business Management degree courses I'm taking. Believe me - I've researched DIS inside and out, and Disney isn't about to buy another cruise line. I'll bet my mouse ears on it. :D

 

As far as CCL buying DIS goes, it's also highly unlikely, since DIS is so diversified. It'd mean selling off assets that are outside of CCL's scope, such as media and motion pictures, and DIS will fight to death to prevent that from ever happening.

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kelz66

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Ok..........how about:

"last year's "possible improbables" proving to be materially on target." Its High Finance jargon Kelz :)

 

 

LMAO....yeah...just a bunch of words that sound good and don't mean much...heheheheh:p

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I've been studying Disney's financial and operational records for the past year, as part of my Business Management degree courses I'm taking. Believe me - I've researched DIS inside and out, and Disney isn't about to buy another cruise line. I'll bet my mouse ears on it. :D

 

As far as CCL buying DIS goes, it's also highly unlikely, since DIS is so diversified. It'd mean selling off assets that are outside of CCL's scope, such as media and motion pictures, and DIS will fight to death to prevent that from ever happening.

 

But, they could easily lift out the Cruise Line division and sell that off, or even spin it off into an independent business. :p

 

Regardless, the mind boggles.

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Wolfie48

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Ok..........how about:

"last year's "possible improbables" proving to be materially on target." Its High Finance jargon Kelz :)

 

Sounds like the kind of logic that got us in the financial situation we are currently in:confused:

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WinnipegCruiser

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The Mouse better have a lot of money!

 

Basically the Mouse has about 1 billion dollars a month surplus to spend.

 

Yes, they have lots of money.

 

The strategy the mouse seems to have is to create the "place to go" and then slowly create what everyone needs in order to go there.

 

For example, for many years there was almost no Disney Hotels. Everyone who went to a Disney Park had to stay in an offsite hotel. Today Disney has many hotels, and they fill them.

 

Other items added to the mouses inventory? Time shares, a complete city (Celebration, FL), cruise ships, Conference Centers, Nascar Racing, Sports Franchises, Television Network...

 

If there were anyway to be profitable in the airline industry, I would expect an airline. (Maybe they just can't get the mouse ears on the plane?)

 

Now I don't believe this rumor. Disney has everything they need in the cruise line they already have. IMO Carnival would bring nothing new to the table.

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beansatw

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Uncle Walt just signed to pay for a huge chunk of building Shanghai Disneyland, and they're expanding Hong Kong Disneyland and Disney's CA Adventure. I really suspect that's where a majority of their cash will be going for a while, instead of buying out another cruiseline.

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dan40

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Uncle Walt just signed to pay for a huge chunk of building Shanghai Disneyland, and they're expanding Hong Kong Disneyland and Disney's CA Adventure. I really suspect that's where a majority of their cash will be going for a while, instead of buying out another cruiseline.

 

 

Disneyland China, built FOR kids,,,,,,,,,,,,BY kids!!!! [Leno]

 

Dan

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I think if Disney were to buy Carnival, they would then pass Microsoft and be pushing WalMart as the largest company in the world.

 

Ain't gonna happen.

 

Close on the Microsoft, but nowhere close on Wal-Mart. Carnival Corp is a $14.65 billion corp; Disney Corp is $35.9 billion for a total of $50.55 billion, which would put them at #141 in Fortune's world wide 500. Microsoft has revenue of $51.1 billion (#136). Wal-Mart, the number 1 company in the world, has revenues of $378 billion.

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G'ma

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Carnival shareholders may be interested to learn that Doug Kass of the Street.com has posted his 20 surprises of 2009 and one of the surprises is that Disney will buy out Carnival. Kass stated 60% of his 20 surprises of 2008 were substantially correct. Time will tell I guess.

 

 

Hmmmmm...this same rumor is circling over on Royal Caribbean forum....that Disney is going to buy them.

 

As for Carnival selling........HA!!!

 

The company is a gold mine.

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