Let's just go overboard!

[CUTIEBUGME2]

Carnival is going so overboard with this swine flu; why not create a panic among cruisers. They go and reroute the cruises through middle of June, but why to Nassau ...why not Belize, Jamaica or Grand Cayman...There is NOTHING GREAT about Nassau. Granted it is better than floating around at see doing nothing. Carnival could have come up with a better plan.

My disappointment is because we have a family reunion on this cruise, everyone has been excited and planning, now squash those plans and try to find something else to do in Bahamas...not easy getting EVERYONE to agree on something.

[Cruisin' Ron VA]

There are a lot of logistics involved in rerouting ships.

 

Carnival is not the only cruiseline out there.

 

Other lines have to fight for space at piers in ports too. Carnival does not have a monopoly or the luxury of always deciding when and where their ships can show up. Distance is also a factor.

 

Carnival did not close Mexico. Their government and the CDC were involved in that.

 

Personally I am glad Carnival is looking out for the health of their passengers. Everyone is in close quarters on board a ship. It only takes one person to get sick with a cold, Noro Virus or gasp....the swine flu and then everyone will have it. Thats when the lawsuits start. Better safe than sorry.

 

Family reunion? Great. Then make it about being with your family and less about complaining about where you end up.

 

If you feel Nassau is going to ruin your entire cruise experience and will make you walk around in a bad mood for the whole trip, then might I suggest you cancel.

 

Over the years I have learned to roll with the waves and have a good time anyway.

 

Let us know how it turns out.

[CruiseSpecialist03]

How many days is your cruise for?!?

[CruiseSpecialist03]

Nevermind, I saw your countdown clock... You are only sailing for 4 days... How much ocean do you think you can cover and be back 4 days later???

 

Yeeeeahhh :rolleyes:

[kyrisong1]

I don't think they are going overboard at all, they are trying to be responsible with their passengers health, even those that seem to not give a hoot about it.

If Carnival had continued sailing to Mexico they would have been putting all passengers at risk, those that got off at these ports, but what about those that didn't because they didn't want to be exposed? When the passengers that got off came back on, well you see where this is going.

I guess they can't please everyone ever, they are blamed for noro, hurricanes, etc.........

I guess what you could do since they are offering a alternate when things get better, how bout rescheduling ? If it will ruin your reunion to not go to those ports then you should reschedule on a ship that IS going somewhere you care to go to. Only so many ships can be in one port at a time, and those ports probably were full or filled up fast.

Good luck

[Cruisin' Ron VA]

Nevermind, I saw your countdown clock... You are only sailing for 4 days... How much ocean do you think you can cover and be back 4 days later???

 

Yeeeeahhh :rolleyes:

 

Did you read where some people wanted Splendor to go to Hawaii?

 

It takes what? four days to get there and four days to get back? :eek:

[*Mach*]

Carnival is going so overboard with this swine flu; why not create a panic among cruisers. They go and reroute the cruises through middle of June, but why to Nassau ...why not Belize, Jamaica or Grand Cayman...There is NOTHING GREAT about Nassau. Granted it is better than floating around at see doing nothing. Carnival could have come up with a better plan.

 

My disappointment is because we have a family reunion on this cruise, everyone has been excited and planning, now squash those plans and try to find something else to do in Bahamas...not easy getting EVERYONE to agree on something.

 

 

 

Just my $.02 but I don't think it's Carnival that's going overboard... it's WHO and the CDC that are using the words 'crisis' and 'pandemic'...

I'm SURE that Carnival would rather be sailing to Mexico than making all the incredibly costly changes required by the current situation.

Why not other ports farther to the south? 'Cause you can't get there and back in time and in some cases the ports can't support the additional vessels.

[*Mach*]

There are a lot of logistics involved in rerouting ships.

 

Carnival is not the only cruiseline out there.

 

Other lines have to fight for space at piers in ports too. Carnival does not have a monopoly or the luxury of always deciding when and where their ships can show up. Distance is also a factor.

 

Carnival did not close Mexico. Their government and the CDC were involved in that.

 

Personally I am glad Carnival is looking out for the health of their passengers. Everyone is in close quarters on board a ship. It only takes one person to get sick with a cold' date=' Noro Virus or gasp....the swine flu and then everyone will have it. Thats when the lawsuits start. Better safe than sorry.

 

Family reunion? Great. Then make it about being with your family and less about complaining about where you end up.

 

If you feel Nassau is going to ruin your entire cruise experience and will make you walk around in a bad mood for the whole trip, then might I suggest you cancel.

 

Over the years I have learned to roll with the waves and have a good time anyway.

 

Let us know how it turns out.[/quote']

 

 

Well done, Ron... well done...

:)

[kelz66]

Just my $.02 but I don't think it's Carnival that's going overboard... it's WHO and the CDC that are using the words 'crisis' and 'pandemic'...

 

I'm SURE that Carnival would rather be sailing to Mexico than making all the incredibly costly changes required by the current situation.

 

Why not other ports farther to the south? 'Cause you can't get there and back in time and in some cases the ports can't support the additional vessels.

 

 

You forgot the news media.....LOL...they all have special graphics and music when they do their report on the "pandemic" and "outbreak". :p

[Cruisin' Ron VA]

Well done, Ron... well done...

 

:)

 

Ron takes a bow. :D

[Aplmac]

Did you read where some people wanted Splendor to go to Hawaii?

 

It takes what? four days to get there and four days to get back?:eek:

In this life' date=' I've discovered that most people are clueless.

 

The other thing I've discovered is that Geography simply [u']isn't important[/u].

 

 

 

Oh. There's another.

Most households don't have an Atlas.

 

What's that??

It's a book full of maps?

- kinda like how a Dictionary is a book full of explanatory words.

 

 

:D

.

[*Mach*]

You forgot the news media.....LOL...they all have special graphics and music when they do their report on the "pandemic" and "outbreak". :p

 

 

Ain't that the truth, Paulie!!!

Man... I could just hear the disappointment in the reporter's voice this morning when a spokesman for the CDC said that this looks like a very mild strain of flu.

They want DEATHS! They want BODY COUNTS!!

Sorry, media... it's just the plain ol' flu...

;)

[kwbound]

Just my $.02 but I don't think it's Carnival that's going overboard... it's WHO and the CDC that are using the words 'crisis' and 'pandemic'...

 

I'm SURE that Carnival would rather be sailing to Mexico than making all the incredibly costly changes required by the current situation.

 

Why not other ports farther to the south? 'Cause you can't get there and back in time and in some cases the ports can't support the additional vessels.

 

 

First, I'm not saying the changes they are making are not costly, I'm just wondering....it seems like a lot of those costs will be offset by the extra revenue made during extra sea days (more drinks bought, more $$ spent in casinos, more bingo, etc), and by the fuel saved by not going to Mexico (for FL based ships). For ships sailing from FL, seems like Carnival would come out ahead by just going to Nassau instead of Mexico. I'm not saying they have a lot of options, I'm just saying that I don't think that this situation is going to hurt their bottom line any.

[kelz66]

In this life, I've discovered that most people are clueless.

 

The other thing I've discovered is that Geography simply isn't important.

 

 

 

Oh. There's another.

Most households don't have an Atlas.

 

What's that??

It's a book full of maps?

- kinda like how a Dictionary is a book full of explanatory words.

 

 

:D

.

 

 

LMAO....the sad part is how true your whole post is.

[DocF]

Carnival is the cruise line most impacted as they have the most ships making calls in Mexican ports. The panic is from health agencies, not Carnival. CDC has schools closing because they might have one case of swine flu in the student body. The WHO has declared this a pandemic. Neither of these agencies operates a cruise line.]

 

Now personally, I have absolutely no desire to go to any Mexican port. That is me and I know many people think these ports are the be all and end all. There is not a thing that Carnival can do about the closure of travel to Mexico; it is policy and they must abide.

 

If we were not so geographically challenged in this country, we would know that the options, given distance and time are limited. Nassau can handle at least five cruise ships at a time, so that makes it an almost necessary substitute stop as many ports cannot handle additional traffic or are too far away. No, I don't think it is anybody's favorite stop, but there are a lot worse.

 

Everyone has two choices, they can accept the necessary changes or they can cancel if they choose within the time frame given them. We can complain, but it is a waste of time and energy as we cannot do anything about the situation.

 

Doc

[MrPete]

Carnival is going so overboard with this swine flu; why not create a panic among cruisers. They go and reroute the cruises through middle of June, but why to Nassau ...why not Belize, Jamaica or Grand Cayman...There is NOTHING GREAT about Nassau. Granted it is better than floating around at see doing nothing. Carnival could have come up with a better plan.

 

My disappointment is because we have a family reunion on this cruise, everyone has been excited and planning, now squash those plans and try to find something else to do in Bahamas...not easy getting EVERYONE to agree on something.

 

 

I beleive they are just following this countries request about unnecessary travel to Mexico.

 

Think Carnival or any line is enjoying this? Kind of like having a whole bunch of people come over to your house for dinner, but you forgot to turn on the stove.

 

Having a bunch of relations coming together, you should have NO PROBLEM in finding things to do anywhere. YOU are the ones resonsible for that.

 

And BTW, look at the bigger picture.

[kelz66]

Ain't that the truth, Paulie!!!

 

Man... I could just hear the disappointment in the reporter's voice this morning when a spokesman for the CDC said that this looks like a very mild strain of flu.

 

They want DEATHS! They want BODY COUNTS!!

 

Sorry, media... it's just the plain ol' flu...

 

;)

 

hahahaha...it's almost as bad as the weather reports..."WINTER STORM 2009!"

 

They tell you to stay home and be safe and yet send a reporter out an hour and a half drive away to report live from some dangerous stretch of road.:rolleyes:

[Cruisin' Ron VA]

In this life, I've discovered that most people are clueless.

 

The other thing I've discovered is that Geography simply isn't important.

 

 

 

Oh. There's another.

Most households don't have an Atlas.

 

What's that??

It's a book full of maps?

- kinda like how a Dictionary is a book full of explanatory words.

 

 

:D

.

 

I admit I do not own an atlast, or maybe I do and dont know where it is. BUT I do have GPS and am pretty good with mapquest and google maps. :D

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....ya never know where you're goin' till ya get there.......

[dan40]

Nevermind, I saw your countdown clock... You are only sailing for 4 days... How much ocean do you think you can cover and be back 4 days later???

 

Yeeeeahhh :rolleyes:

 

At 25 Miles per hour, which would be over 20 knots, which would be 'haulin' azz!' Straight line distance would be 1200 miles out and 1200 miles back. But there are no straight lines to sail. Have to sail around the Florida Keys, have to sail around Cuba. dropping the RT range to maybe 1600 from 2400 miles.

ONE 8 hour stop drops another 400 miles off the RT range. Now down to 1200 straight line miles.

 

But that's all fact and logic, why would the OP bother with that troublesome stuff?

[umwife11]

In this life, I've discovered that most people are clueless.

 

The other thing I've discovered is that Geography simply isn't important.

 

 

 

Oh. There's another.

Most households don't have an Atlas.

 

What's that??

It's a book full of maps?

- kinda like how a Dictionary is a book full of explanatory words.

 

 

:D

.

 

HA! This post SO reminded me of that beauty pageant contestant from a few years ago...the one that was asked about the percentage of Americans that couldn't find the US on a map and she went on blathering about "the Iraq" "likewise" and "such as"...Good stuff! LOL.

 

To the OP, my husband and I are currently booked on the Imagination for late June. The cruise before us is scheduled to visit Key West and Nassau--our itinerary hasn't been announced yet, but we're already thinking ahead.

 

And I too, am incredibly disappointed in our itinerary. I live in FL and have been to Key West more than I can count; I've been to Nassau more than I care to count. BUT, we're still going to go on our cruise AND we're going to have fun. Make the best of it. Try to find some new activities that we've never doen before in either port...

 

Why not sit down with the shore excursion book and look and see if there's something you've never tried? You don't LIVE in Nassau, so I'm guessing you haven't experienced EVERYTHING it has to offer. I know I haven't.

 

But in all honesty, if you're going to be miserable because of Nassau, don't go. Reschedule your cruise. In my experience, most people who go INTO something upset usually come OUT OF IT upset.

[MrPete]

Ain't that the truth, Paulie!!!

 

Man... I could just hear the disappointment in the reporter's voice this morning when a spokesman for the CDC said that this looks like a very mild strain of flu.

 

They want DEATHS! They want BODY COUNTS!!

 

Sorry, media... it's just the plain ol' flu...

 

;)

 

Actually, it's a flu in non flu season. The FULL impact will not be known until flu season starts. I hope for one its doesn't PAN out, and is a mild is it currently showing.

 

And the media just wants news. I think your statement is a little over the top.

[poobears]

Even though it's a family reunion that doesn't mean you have to be attached at the hip on board or in port. If part of them want to do one excursion and the rest want to do another. Then book both and meet back up on the ship or on beach somewhere. There is no reason everyone can't have fun, especially with it being a family reunion.

[dan40]

In this life, I've discovered that most people are clueless.

 

The other thing I've discovered is that Geography simply isn't important.

 

 

 

Oh. There's another.

Most households don't have an Atlas.

 

What's that??

It's a book full of maps?

- kinda like how a Dictionary is a book full of explanatory words.

 

 

:D

.

 

Years back we had an office in Ohio. The girl there was talking to one of our salesmen in Spokane Washington. It was about 4PM where he was. She told him we had a potential customer in Los Angeles and he would like to see our equipment the next morning at 8AM. Way over 1000 miles away and the salesman is driving a big rig with the equipment on board. He says he CANNOT get there by 8AM. She says, "Why not, its only about an inch on the map?":rolleyes::D

[Pegs222]

Carnival is going so overboard with this swine flu; why not create a panic among cruisers. They go and reroute the cruises through middle of June, but why to Nassau ...why not Belize, Jamaica or Grand Cayman...There is NOTHING GREAT about Nassau. Granted it is better than floating around at see doing nothing. Carnival could have come up with a better plan.

My disappointment is because we have a family reunion on this cruise, everyone has been excited and planning, now squash those plans and try to find something else to do in Bahamas...not easy getting EVERYONE to agree on something.

 

I can not even imagine what Carnival or the pax go through when plans have to change and they can not go to the ports they were going to. Since nobody seems to know what it takes to reroute a cruise, which I am sure is not that easy, I can only say that they choose to pick the islands they do because of the time it takes to get to each port and back to the home port at the end of the cruise.

 

Life is full of disappointments, but you will be with all of your family for this cruise. Look at it as something fun will happen not what it should be.

 

Have a wonderful cruise.

[*Mach*]

At 25 Miles per hour, which would be over 20 knots, which would be 'haulin' azz!' Straight line distance would be 1200 miles out and 1200 miles back. But there are no straight lines to sail. Have to sail around the Florida Keys, have to sail around Cuba. dropping the RT range to maybe 1600 from 2400 miles.

ONE 8 hour stop drops another 400 miles off the RT range. Now down to 1200 straight line miles.

 

But that's all fact and logic, why would the OP bother with that troublesome stuff?

 

 

Truthfully, I think the OP is in the majority of folks who sail. They really don't understand the distances involved and I'm not going to fault them for that... For many, a port of call is a port of call and should be interchangeable.

As you pointed out, there are many factors that go into the decision making process of where/when a cruise ship can go to a given port.

One of the great things about Cruise Critic is that folks, like the OP, can come here with questions or thoughts and get an educated (at least somewhat... ;)) response.

That's what drew me here and that's what keeps me here!!

:)