Blackjack Players Step Inside!

[Yo Eleven]

I have to admit. The people I sat down with my first time on a ship were great.

 

I would like to know. If I remember correctly, Carnival was using one deck at the table I was playing. That being said, do you make any alterations to the basic strategy if you have several people at the table. Does that change the odds?

One deck paying 6:5 it sounds like.....

 

RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!! :eek:

[Yo Eleven]

ignore all the other players and the cards you see. Don't listen to BS and just play your game.

If I came out of retirement and played again, it would be hard to ignore me and listen to my BS. HAHAHA!

 

Good advice though. :D

[Yo Eleven]

Smog, as long as you are friendly and fun at the table most people will not get angry over your play and the ones that do aren't the kind of people you want to sit next to anyway. :) An experienced player might offer you some advise if you make a really foolish play (stay on a 16 against a 10 showing) but most experienced gamblers are just looking to have fun.

 

When you sit down introduce yourself and try to strike up a conversation, you will be shocked how much that helps create a fun table.

Gosh posts like this want me to come out of retirement. LOL!

[grod19]

Gosh posts like this want me to come out of retirement. LOL!

 

How are you going to bet the dark side in blackjack?

[Yo Eleven]

How are you going to bet the dark side in blackjack?

By splitting tens everytime I get them.

[SmogMonster]

I have a question for all you seasoned, experienced blackjackers. What is the conventional wisdom on surrendering?

 

Several of the on-line casinos give me the option to surrender a hand and I believe this is sometimes an option on landbased or sea based casinos.

 

Is this a good ide and if so under what conditions?

 

thanks

[Yo Eleven]

I have a question for all you seasoned, experienced blackjackers. What is the conventional wisdom on surrendering?

 

Several of the on-line casinos give me the option to surrender a hand and I believe this is sometimes an option on landbased or sea based casinos.

 

Is this a good ide and if so under what conditions?

 

thanks

Another sucker option the house offers in my opinion. More ways big brother can steal your money away from you. Anything the house offers you, is for suckers!!!!! Never forget that.

[wanderlust402]

I have a question for all you seasoned, experienced blackjackers. What is the conventional wisdom on surrendering?

 

Several of the on-line casinos give me the option to surrender a hand and I believe this is sometimes an option on landbased or sea based casinos.

 

Is this a good idea and if so under what conditions?

 

thanks

 

When you have 16 against a dealer up card of 10.

 

I disagree with Yo Eleven. Under limited scenarios, surrender is a good idea. The reason it can be a money maker for the house is when folks who don't understand it surrender too often.

 

I don't think surrender is offered on the ships.

[Yo Eleven]

When you have 16 against a dealer up card of 10.

 

I disagree with Yo Eleven. Under limited scenarios, surrender is a good idea. The reason it can be a money maker for the house is when folks who don't understand it surrender too often.

 

I don't think surrender is offered on the ships.

Are you Jason Green by any chance? LOL!

 

http://www.predictem.com/blackjack/surrender.php

 

:p

[AndyTheK]

Are you Jason Green by any chance? LOL!:p

Yo, I'm surprised at you!! I had never heard of Mr. Green, but I long ago read what the Wizard of Odds has in his basic strategy table. As a guy who knows how odds and long run works, you should recognize that if the odds are that you will win less than 25% of the time, then surrender is the right thing to do. Has nothing to do with testosterone, just probability.

[Yo Eleven]

Yo, I'm surprised at you!! I had never heard of Mr. Green, but I long ago read what the Wizard of Odds has in his basic strategy table. As a guy who knows how odds and long run works, you should recognize that if the odds are that you will win less than 25% of the time, then surrender is the right thing to do. Has nothing to do with testosterone, just probability.

Actually, my theory is to not play BJ at all.

I haven't played blackjack in a looooooooong time. I am a little rusty I guess. But if you are giving 1/2 your money back to the house then you are LOSING!!!!!!!! So what good is it? Anyway.......

Throw the tin man a can of oil will ya? :p

[ParrothdJH]

Actually, my theory is to not play BJ at all.

I haven't played blackjack in a looooooooong time. I am a little rusty I guess. But if you are giving 1/2 your money back to the house then you are LOSING!!!!!!!! So what good is it? Anyway.......

Throw the tin man a can of oil will ya? :p

Yo, I can see why you don't play BJ anymore. Surrender is the proper play with a 16 vs dealer ten, Sure you're giving 1/2 of your bet to the house, but many more times than not you'll be giving 100% of your bet if you don't surrender .

[ParrothdJH]

Learn craps and play the dark side. That should maximize your fun and help increase financial return. These casinos are making it very difficult to profit from blackjack with their bait and switch rules of the game.

Why play the dark side? House edge is the same on pass and don't pass bets.

[Yo Eleven]

Why play the dark side? House edge is the same on pass and don't pass bets.

Because, it is more fun to see what happens when

a seven is rolled when you have a dp bet with two dc bets. Oh and you get paid faster. :)

[spiritkat090909]

Sorry,can't help myself.

 

Question..Why in the world would you not split the 16 against the 10 or A? You should ALWAYS split eights. Having a 16 sucks. Why keep it if you don't have to?

 

Amswer..Becuase I would rather lose one bet rather than two.

 

OK..back under the desk.

 

 

Actually....SOMEtime's not splitting the eights against the dealers ten card is acceptable. For instance, in a double deck game, you ARE more likely to lose twice (Got your maximum bet out?) than improve your hand and the dealer IS more likely to have that 20. AND if the dealer luck is currently better than YOUR luck... But, at least HIT that 16!

 

Got room under that desk? lol

 

I also hit 12 against dealer 2...and some don't. MOST of the time, I end up busting out...and end up saving the table. These are two plays that are IMO borderline... and as long as the errors are minimal, a halfway decent player at the table is better than a bad one. JMO.

[spiritkat090909]

Yo, I can see why you don't play BJ anymore. Surrender is the proper play with a 16 vs dealer ten, Sure you're giving 1/2 of your bet to the house, but many more times than not you'll be giving 100% of your bet if you don't surrender .

 

 

And if you take that portion that was left over and add it to your NEXT bet, instead of staying at your normal bet...you have a better chance of a winning hand on the next hand than hitting the 16 & making it.

 

BTW, Surrender is offered on the Crystal Serenity.

[AtoZgirl]

How many decks of cards does Carnival Cruise lines use to play blackjack with? I think I heard 5 but I want to confirm. Thanks!!

[sailor_jimc]

Carnival is using an 8 deck continuous shuffle shoe machine for their "standard" BJ tables. At their "Fun 21" games it is a 6 deck shoe (with the queens pulled from the decks) and I have also seen "face up" Black Jack, but don't remember what they use there...

[AtoZgirl]

Thanks Sailor Jimc

[poppadaddycruiser]

I got so sick of the game and the fools that play it I forced myself to learn craps. As soon as I learned the game and developed my system I rarely ever play Blackjack. :D

 

I've recently switched from BJ to craps.. (one trip to vegas and a lot of online practice) care to share your 'system'?

[Yo Eleven]

I've recently switched from BJ to craps.. (one trip to vegas and a lot of online practice) care to share your 'system'?

How much money you got? :p

[mets550]

Great blackjack story: (This actually happened at a land-based casino but it is worth telling here.)

 

Full table on a crowded Friday night at Turning Stone Resort and Casino (upstate NY) and this guy is sitting in the first position betting $25/hand. He gets 5 5 against a dealer 2. He puts down another $25 chip and the dealer deals him one card, assuming he meant to double. The card he is dealt is an ace, giving him 21.

 

However, this highly intelligent gentleman decided to complain with his 21, claiming that he meant to SPLIT his 5 5. The dealer, astonished, asks if he is sure that's what he meant and then calls over the pit boss. The pit boss, too, attempts to conceal a smile and asks whether he really wants to split. At this point, the man becomes annoyed that his credibility is being questioned and insists that he meant to split, arguing that he even gave the split "signal" with his hand when he put the extra green chip down.

 

The pit boss says okay, but tells the man that his ace would be burned. The guy plays out his first hand, but the dealer gives him a hit when he wanted to stay. The pit boss is summoned again and informs him that this unwanted card will be discarded as well.

 

I had a 15 (against a dealer 2) and asked if I could pull my bet back, being that two cards were just burned when they shouldn't have been. The pit boss says, "Anyone who wants to take your bet back, pull your money back." I and a few others take the bets back.

 

The guy who started all the trouble says, "I think I'll just get out at this point too." He takes his bets back.

 

RIDICULOUS!

[MrCo9]

Yes AND No.

Ultimately the dealers work FOR the casino.

The dealers KNOW what the sucker bets are, especially the craps came. And they push for folks to makes those bets.

 

I do think blackjack is a little different though. The reason being many many more people understand the game and the game is much more slower than the other games. Also, the blackjack dealer is more personal with the player unlike in fast paced games in craps. Yeah, you can be friends with the craps dealers and all, but the discussions are more personal in blackjack. More one on one dialogue. It is because of this a blackjack dealer is more apt to assist a blackjack player.

 

But I have to agree with AndytheK on this one though. Utimately, the dealers goal is to rake in the money.

You could not be more WRONG. The dealer's goal is to make money for themselves. The ONLY way to do that is by having players win, it is few and far between the player that has the class and generosity to tip when losing. Now, if you're a stiff, they are glad to see you lose. Go to the ATM, come back and lose some more. All night long as Lionel Ritchie sang. The dealers job is to take or pay the bets proplerly according to house policy and local gaming regulations dictate.

[MrCo9]

Carnival is using an 8 deck continuous shuffle shoe machine for their "standard" BJ tables. At their "Fun 21" games it is a 6 deck shoe (with the queens pulled from the decks) and I have also seen "face up" Black Jack, but don't remember what they use there...

Any game dealt from a shoe or CSM is going to be dealt face up. Do you mean double exposure where you get to see both of the delaers cards and pushes lose?

[MrCo9]

Another sucker option the house offers in my opinion. More ways big brother can steal your money away from you. Anything the house offers you, is for suckers!!!!! Never forget that.

Thar she blows AGAIN.

 

The house offers you a chance to play and it sounds like you take that ALL the time.