Blackjack Players Step Inside!

[primo1]

Thats Mr CUZ to you Yo Yo Boy! lol.....:cool:

[Yo Eleven]

Thats Mr CUZ to you Yo Yo Boy! lol.....:cool:

The only person I address Mr. to is, Mr. Page. :D

 

On that note, this casino is in need for some good music! :D

 

[cruiser_new]

The only person I address Mr. to is, Mr. Page. :D

 

On that note, this casino is in need for some good music! :D

 

 

YO, my respect level for you just got turned up a notch....you have great musical tastes. Not bad for somebody from the dark side.

[cruiser_new]

YO, my respect level for you just got turned up a notch....you have great musical tastes. Not bad for somebody from the dark side.

 

Oops....that dark side comment probably doesn't make a lot of sense in this thread, I thought I was in the CRAPS thread!:D

[Yo Eleven]

YO, my respect level for you just got turned up a notch....you have great musical tastes. Not bad for somebody from the dark side.

Glad you approve and like. This gives me an idea for a new thread. It will be awesome. Stay tuned.

[primo1]

Your good Yo. I mean Mr Yo.

[Yo Eleven]

Your good Yo. I mean Mr Yo.

Hey, now that you are a REGULAR poster here you need to get yourself an avatar. Allow me to make a suggestion here. :)

 

http://s3.amazonaws.com/bzzagent-bzzscapes-prod/tasty-island-blog-lrg.png

[primo1]

LMAO........

Very good man

[Yo Eleven]

LMAO........

Very good man

The avatar you have is a nice start. But I will tell you how I like it when I get home so I can use my binoculars to see what the heck it is. HAHA! :D

[primo1]

Yea I know, sorry. Only thing I had available.

It is just a sample of some of my Blackjack tournament awards.

My wife had a few framed, and hung them up in my Man Cave.

[stan wood]

This thread is interesting. I agree with many of the points given-and there's a few that indicate some "inexperience or indifference."

 

I have played blackjack for over twenty years and dealt the game for twelve years at a local Indian casino. I would not consider myself a pro-but I have had some luck.

 

Some points I believe in-

 

Since the house has roughly a 1% advantage, you only have to win a couple extra hands an hour to show a profit (on equal bets). To me, money management is more important than the decisions on whether to hit or stay. I parlay my bets. Most gambling is streaky-win a few in a row and lose a few. If you have more money out on winning hands, you can make up the 1%. If you have a night where you're missing on doubles and splits-parlaying can turn into a quick disaster.

 

There are basically two types of players-those out to have a good time and those out to make some money. I think it's best to keep the two types at separate tables. The worst player is probably the guy trying to impress the ladies. He is usually bold and stupid.

 

If it is a weekend-I bet a minimum and try to ignore the actions of others and try to break even. If I am trying to make money, I go in the morning and try to play head-to-head with the dealer. That way I have no one to blame and I get a higher percentage of blackjacks. If you could alternate blackjacks with the dealer, you're up 50% of your original bet every two hands. Don't be afraid to switch tables. There were days when I dealt that I know I won 80% or more of the hands. Other days I couldn't win a hand. There's no logic why-but it happens.

 

The strategy cards are accurate if you play enough hands. I have a program where I can set up any situation and run it for one million hands. But the odds are not as bad as many think. If you stand on a 16 against a dealer's 10 a million times, you will lose 1-2 more per thousand.

 

I will not play against a random shuffler. The main reason is that through dealing thousands of hands, I feel the older three stack shufflers do not shuffle the cards that well. I honestly believe now that in most shoes the cards tend to follow themselves (high with high and low with low). I laughed when this was first mentioned to me, but after years of watching the cards dealt, I've become a believer. I played at a local casino for years until they brought in random shufflers. I have changed casinos since then.

 

If you're new or inexperienced, sit to the left of the dealer (first base) and ask for advice. Keep in mind that many dealers understand how to deal the game but not how to play it. Also, dealers want you to win. They make their living off the tips-not the hourly wage which is usually minimum. With slot machines, casinos don't have to worry about losing money. Winners are also their best advertisement and it increases the chances of you coming back and bringing friends.

 

No one wins every time. If you're having a bad night, go home. Greed and alcohol are a casino's best friend. Too many players are not content winning $100 so they increase their bets and wind up losing $2-300.

 

Use your player tracking card and become familiar with the pit bosses. They're the ones that hand out the free meals and hotel stays.

 

If you seriously want to win-learn the game. Read about it and practice on the net. When dealing, I suggested that beginners go to the site http://wizardofodds.com for both strategy and practice.

 

I'll quit now. I hope there is something that may help someone. If you have better ideas, I'd love to read them.

[primo1]

Well stated Stan.

My views exactly.

Now, off the record. Just between you and me. The Indian Casinos do

tend to bend the rules a little. To put it in other words, Their Rules.

Im an advantage bj player and my last time at a Indian Casino (last time as well) noticed a shortage of picture cards withheld. Furthermore, I have

never been able to witness the Dealer laying out ALL the cards like they do in Vegas et...when they bring in new decks of cards.

Whats your take?

[Yo Eleven]

Great write up stan. Thanks for this. When you get a chance can you offer some insight on craps in the craps players step inside thread. Thanks.

[stan wood]

Well-since this is just between you and me--keep in mind that this is just my experience and may not cover all of the Indian casinos. I never saw any attempt to cheat a player by management. Since the odds were already in our favor, we didn't want anyone leaving feeling that they were cheated. I saw a player one night playing $500 a hand and playing several hands at once. When he finished the shoe, he and the dealer noticed that there were three cards left in the shuffler. When management was called-they checked his buy-ins and refunded him the $17,000 that he was down.

 

Cards are spread and shuffled at the beginning of the shift by first the pit boss and then the dealer. Any irregularities (missing cards or marked cards) were immediately replaced with a new deck. In twelve years of dealing, I do not know of any attempt to actually cheat a player. If a card hits the floor, we had to take all the cards and count to make sure the right amount is there.

 

Understand that I worked at one of the larger casinos (44 tables if I remember correctly) and there would be a lot less temptation to cheat compared to a place that might only have a couple of tables. Also, the attitude changed in the casino when slots were brought in. Suddenly table games were there more as a convenience for the gamblers. We used to make over seven times as much a month on slots as the table games.

 

Now that doesn't mean that dealers don't make mistakes. We had to bury the first card of a shoe and if I forgot and no one said anything, I went on. There were a couple of reasons-first the pit boss would have to be contacted and I could be written up. Second-you may have to reshuffle the whole shoe which irritates the customers waiting to play. Also, some dealers were not Stanford graduates. Getting to 21 with their shoes on was a challenge for some. Some players may assume cheating when it was just a "less-than-intelligent" dealer.

 

Our state needs a regulatory agency to oversee the casinos more. But I honestly do not think there was any cheating at the table games. If they want to increase profits, it would be much easier to tighten up the slots. My biggest problem working with the Indian casinos was trying to advance. Nepotism is practiced to the highest degreee. Since they are their own "nation", they do not have to follow U.S. laws when it's not in their best interests. It was always amazing to see how many third-cousins or bedmates advanced despite a lack of experience or ability.

[stan wood]

Yo-

Craps is by far the most exciting game in a casino-all you have to do is listen to the noise---but--

I can't offer any advice on craps because I didn't deal it. I lost two fingers on my left hand when working in a mill years ago and felt that I could not cut the chips fast enough with the left hand to keep from slowing up the game.

 

When casinos were legalized in the state-they mainly had blackjack and that was the game I tried to figure out and have had enough success to keep from straying.

 

Dealers I worked with suggested playing the short odds and skipping the gimick bets. And to bet the odds on the pass line. We allow 10x in this state.

 

Sorry that I couldn't be of more help.

[primo1]

Thanks Stan.

My last encounter was at a smaller place in Michigan. I even tried to talk

to the Pitt Boss and Shift Mgr and whoever else. No one would deny or admit to how they handle the cards before they are put in play at the table. I even asked to let me know the next table that was opening when they are supposed to lay out all the cards, go thru them spread them out and do the whirlwind shuffle before actually hand shuffling or placing in a machine. Couldn't get an answer and was never able to witness that.

I wouldn't think that a place like Foxwoods would even think of doing something of that sort. But these smaller ones popping up all over the Country will. I just don;t trust them any longer.

They probably don't trust me either, lol..

Thanks again.

[stan wood]

I agree with you. If they are afraid to show you the cards-then I wouldn't play there either.

[Yo Eleven]

Yea I know, sorry. Only thing I had available.

It is just a sample of some of my Blackjack tournament awards.

My wife had a few framed, and hung them up in my Man Cave.

I love the avatar! A picture of a high rolling blackjack player. I love it!

[Harry and Lucille]

Yes I did. I always play anchor unless it appears that the anchor player knows what they are doing. Somebody has to take the blame for the losers.:rolleyes: Last cruise, some guy was always complaining on my play. I was winning and he was losing. Finally, I had enough and said to the dealer, loudly enough for all to hear, that I would be willing to exchange seats with him. He was quiet for a few hands and started up again. He had a 16 hand and stood. The dealer was showing a 10. I had two face cards - - - - - so I split them. I lost. He left and never sat at a table where I was playing for the rest of the cruise. Would I split 10's again??? Don't press me. :D

[Yo Eleven]

Yes I did. I always play anchor unless it appears that the anchor player knows what they are doing. Somebody has to take the blame for the losers.:rolleyes: Last cruise, some guy was always complaining on my play. I was winning and he was losing. Finally, I had enough and said to the dealer, loudly enough for all to hear, that I would be willing to exchange seats with him. He was quiet for a few hands and started up again. He had a 16 hand and stood. The dealer was showing a 10. I had two face cards - - - - - so I split them. I lost. He left and never sat at a table where I was playing for the rest of the cruise. Would I split 10's again??? Don't press me. :D

Are you for real? :confused:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqR5UIxkt6U

 

Oh boy!

[primo1]

Yes I did. I always play anchor unless it appears that the anchor player knows what they are doing. Somebody has to take the blame for the losers.:rolleyes: Last cruise, some guy was always complaining on my play. I was winning and he was losing. Finally, I had enough and said to the dealer, loudly enough for all to hear, that I would be willing to exchange seats with him. He was quiet for a few hands and started up again. He had a 16 hand and stood. The dealer was showing a 10. I had two face cards - - - - - so I split them. I lost. He left and never sat at a table where I was playing for the rest of the cruise. Would I split 10's again??? Don't press me. :D

Even a blind Squirrel can find nuts!

[Yo Eleven]

Even a blind Squirrel can find nuts!

Hey primio1-How many shots of vodka would it take to get you to play like that? HAHAHAHA!

[Harry and Lucille]

I'm always looking for free perks on a cruise too. The guy at the table was loud and getting personal. After he left, the dealer winked at me and smiled and the pit boss came over, thanked me and handed me a free drink. I think I won that hand after all. :cool: I enjoy a table of good players. Good players don't have to stop, think and count on their fingers. It's nice to joke, chat and get to know folks on the cruise. Made some good long distance friends that way. Good play backed up with a sound money management system has always kept me on the winning track and I thoroughly enjoy the game and those I play with. As a side note. A happy joking table attracts more cruisers to the tables and the casino likes that. I've seen times that the pit boss will buy a round for the table. Any way you slice it, thats a five or ten dollar win.:)

[primo1]

I'm always looking for free perks on a cruise too. The guy at the table was loud and getting personal. After he left, the dealer winked at me and smiled and the pit boss came over, thanked me and handed me a free drink. I think I won that hand after all. :cool: I enjoy a table of good players. Good players don't have to stop, think and count on their fingers. It's nice to joke, chat and get to know folks on the cruise. Made some good long distance friends that way. Good play backed up with a sound money management system has always kept me on the winning track and I thoroughly enjoy the game and those I play with. As a side note. A happy joking table attracts more cruisers to the tables and the casino likes that. I've seen times that the pit boss will buy a round for the table. Any way you slice it, thats a five or ten dollar win.:)

What a minute. Correct me IF Iam wrong. But when you said you lost on that CRAZY STUPID play you did by splitting 10's with the Dealer showing a 10. Now you say you THINK you won???*****?

Sound money Mgmt and good play. You got to be playing with us, or you are the worst blackjack player I have ever encountered.

The Pit Boss bought you a drink because he didn't want you to leave the table.

And why do you think the Casinos want a full table? Because it is more difficult for advantage players like myself to make wise decessions on my money mgmt skills. Less players at a table makes it more convenient for me to track the cards.

I think you work for the Casino. Some of the novice blackjack readers here will think you are correct.

Yo, help a Brother out here! Whats your take?

[tompeter]

primo1- I think the previous poster was noting they intentionally split the ten's to drive the loud, obnoxious player away from the table, which it sounds like even the dealer and pit boss appreciated:D. I think they implied that they know the basic BJ strategy.