Blackjack Players Step Inside!

[primo1]

Thanks.

Sorry Harry & Lucy ;)

[Yo Eleven]

What a minute. Correct me IF Iam wrong. But when you said you lost on that CRAZY STUPID play you did by splitting 10's with the Dealer showing a 10. Now you say you THINK you won???*****?

Sound money Mgmt and good play. You got to be playing with us, or you are the worst blackjack player I have ever encountered.

The Pit Boss bought you a drink because he didn't want you to leave the table.

And why do you think the Casinos want a full table? Because it is more difficult for advantage players like myself to make wise decessions on my money mgmt skills. Less players at a table makes it more convenient for me to track the cards.

I think you work for the Casino. Some of the novice blackjack readers here will think you are correct.

Yo, help a Brother out here! Whats your take?

I am confused here myself. The poster said some guy was whining about his play. Was it because he was winning or splitting tens?

I like to know if he split tens because that is the WAY he plays, or did he split them to shut the guy up and get him to leave the table? I dunno what to think here.

[primo1]

I think H&L owes us that much.

[Harry and Lucille]

What I did was to eliminate an obnoxious player from the game to make the table a more friendly place to be. At that point, the money was not an issue. Just the loudmouth that nobody wanted around. Get a grip there.

[Yo Eleven]

I think H&L owes us that much.

 

What a minute. Correct me IF Iam wrong. But when you said you lost on that CRAZY STUPID play you did by splitting 10's with the Dealer showing a 10. Now you say you THINK you won???*****?

Sound money Mgmt and good play. You got to be playing with us, or you are the worst blackjack player I have ever encountered.

The Pit Boss bought you a drink because he didn't want you to leave the table.

And why do you think the Casinos want a full table? Because it is more difficult for advantage players like myself to make wise decessions on my money mgmt skills. Less players at a table makes it more convenient for me to track the cards.

I think you work for the Casino. Some of the novice blackjack readers here will think you are correct.

Yo, help a Brother out here! Whats your take?

What I did was to eliminate an obnoxious player from the game to make the table a more friendly place to be. At that point, the money was not an issue. Just the loudmouth that nobody wanted around. Get a grip there.

Hey primo1, it looks like you were told to lighten up by the king himself! HAHAHAHA! :D

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM

 

Split 'em!

[Harry and Lucille]

Everyone in here sounds like somebody I would sit with. Sparkling conversation. :rolleyes: Going to be aboard Crown Princess, Dec. 5 sailing. If you happen to be there, you can find me riding anchor on a table just about any time from open to about 10 p.m. (too old to stay up later than that).

[Yo Eleven]

Everyone in here sounds like somebody I would sit with. Sparkling conversation. :rolleyes: Going to be aboard Crown Princess, Dec. 5 sailing. If you happen to be there, you can find me riding anchor on a table just about any time from open to about 10 p.m. (too old to stay up later than that).

I second that! We are all "buddies for life" in here just like Carl said to Ty when they cannonballed. At 8:40 HAHAHA! :D

This section is really gathering steam and is a lot of fun.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-qGVCdVPY

 

Fore!

[lindasuej]

Psssssst. Come closer!

Isn't that exactly what I did? :D

 

 

LOL

 

Linda

[AndyTheK]

Everyone in here sounds like somebody I would sit with. Sparkling conversation. :rolleyes: Going to be aboard Crown Princess, Dec. 5 sailing. If you happen to be there, you can find me riding anchor on a table just about any time from open to about 10 p.m. (too old to stay up later than that).

 

Ditto on having a good time with any and all. We're due out on Coral Princess for the holiday cruise December 22.

 

BUT... we don't start till Harry goes to bed, when late dinner ends. We close up the place at 3 AM unless we booked an early morning excursion, which is a very rare occurrence, and on formal nights when we aren't in the casino after 6 PM ir so.

 

If you're there, look for the lady with the scooter who KNOWS blackjack. I think DW is the only one... never met another one so far.

[stan wood]

Splitting 10's is not always the wrong move. If you're playing in a tournament and you're behind with only a couple of hands left-splitting 10's can get you an extra bet. But I'm not sure I would do it until the last hand if the dealer has a 10 up.

 

As an ex-dealer, I would have bought H&L a drink (illegal where I dealt), to get rid of the obnoxious one. You cherish the nights when you get a table full of players that are having a good time and not causing problems. Also, there are times when you're playing a shoe (six or eight decks) when you have to do something to change the run of cards. Usually it means playing an extra hand or sitting out a hand to change the change the order.

 

Often it will go the other way. You have a good shoe going and the players are winning. Someone goes to the second hand so they can win twice. It changes the way the cards come out and everyone starts losing. As a player, I like to change tables when I see this move.

[SailBadtheSinner]

Will be going to Bermuda in October and am wondering what the payout for blackjack is on the Majesty, 6 to 5 or 3 to 2? Anyone?

[Harry and Lucille]

Not that I'm the best at Blackjack, however, on the light side - - - - - -,

Many years ago I published a booklet entitled "Blackjack, and how to always win". Sure it had the basic math table but most of it was about money management and mental skills to provide the winning feeling even if the financial pile was going down. Believe it or not. Did the work on a Vic 20 and had it printed at the local print shop. The booklet was 13 pages long. Page 13 was the order form to purchase more of them for friends and family. It was in pocket size format. Sold out 2 printings in the time it takes for two 15 day cruises. Most money I ever made at Blackjack. Any body else have stories? Harry :cool: PS. They sold for $4.95 each or three for $15 and most of my sales were for 3 or multiples of 3. What does that say about Blackjack players? Any thoughts?

[primo1]

Good for you Harry. Gamblers are always buying books and such to try to make them better players. And to think they have, or want to have an edge.

BTW, do you split 10's in non tournament play? And what did your booklet say about splitting 10's? Just curious.

[Harry and Lucille]

As I pointed out. I would only split 10's in extraordinary situations. In 50 years of play, that has only occurred twice to my recollection. Splitting 10's, even in a tournament is like holding your nose when jumping off the top of the Golden Gate Bridge to commit suicide. A hand won is a hand won and a hand lost?? You get the idea. As to splitting eights? According to my math, much research and way too many hands played, odds are 50/50 either way. Just go with your gut on that one. If you count on winning a hand and don't, that is a downer. If you play a hunch and lose your mind just says 'o well, I tried' and you forget it. If you play just for fun, I hope you sit at my table. I play to make money. Sounding like I'm bragging but, out of eight cruises, I have paid for 5 1/2 of them, including losses, on the Blackjack tables. I treat Blackjack like a job. I go to work and expect to be paid for my time. Winning with consistency is not a part time job. It's work. That is back to money management and time spent. A game well learned and played, and a positive attitude is the winners edge.

 

Good luck now. Harry

[jetwet1]

Splitting 10's

 

The average winning hand is 18.3, so you are ahead with 20, NEVER split 10's

 

Splitting 8's

 

Here is the score with that one, on a hard 16 you will lose $52 for every $100 you bet against a 9, 10 or A

 

Splitting them you will lose $43, still not great, but better than $52, it's a strange concept, but you are splitting them to lose less.

[Harry and Lucille]

Very good point there, however, it is still a gut shot. As long as you feel good about splitting them, then the positive mind set takes over, win or lose. Worry about it then you will lose financially and mentally. Way too many times, people feel guilty for taking the casinos money. They subconsciously will play to lose. As I said in my booklet. If you feel guilt for taking the casinos money, then what you need to do is to not gamble. If you do, and if you win, take those winnings and donate them to your favorite charity, church, etc., or mail me a check, I will start my own church for reformed Blackjack players and you will be able to deduct that amount on your taxes. I play to win one way or another.:cool:

[jetwet1]

Harry, if you honestly believe that then rock n roll, I will stick to the mathematical side of the game rather than my gut feelings.

[Harry and Lucille]

The math rules. Good player or not. The math rules. How you play the game and what you get out of it is in your mind alone. Play for fun, Play to lose, Play to win or Play to pass time. Makes no difference. Chips are just a piece of clay. $1, $5, $25, $100. White, Red, Green, Black. All the same till you cash them in. Good play and chip management is the only thing that counts in the end. As long as you walk away comfortable in your own mind, that counts. Harry:cool:

[Yo Eleven]

The only way to win, is not to play. :D

[primo1]

As I pointed out. I would only split 10's in extraordinary situations. In 50 years of play, that has only occurred twice to my recollection. Splitting 10's, even in a tournament is like holding your nose when jumping off the top of the Golden Gate Bridge to commit suicide. A hand won is a hand won and a hand lost?? You get the idea. As to splitting eights? According to my math, much research and way too many hands played, odds are 50/50 either way. Just go with your gut on that one. If you count on winning a hand and don't, that is a downer. If you play a hunch and lose your mind just says 'o well, I tried' and you forget it. If you play just for fun, I hope you sit at my table. I play to make money. Sounding like I'm bragging but, out of eight cruises, I have paid for 5 1/2 of them, including losses, on the Blackjack tables. I treat Blackjack like a job. I go to work and expect to be paid for my time. Winning with consistency is not a part time job. It's work. That is back to money management and time spent. A game well learned and played, and a positive attitude is the winners edge.

 

Good luck now. Harry

Your o.k. in my book Harry!

In my prime I never paid for anything. Zip,zero. And making money.

But now days I play under the radar. Not to big not to small in and out.

And I don't gamble where I stay. The last 2 cruises we took I was like a flash thru the Casino. Good luck to you.

[Harry and Lucille]

I am not young anymore either. 71 years old and I still take the money of those who want to learn.:cool: Lifes lessons can be costly to the uninformed. lol.

[stan wood]

There are some great points made here. Maybe the best was Harry's "in and out". I usually play for 15-30 minutes and then I'm gone. The longer you play, the more the natural odds of the game will come about-which the house holds an advantage.

 

Many players think they are winners. They should keep a log and check it after a couple months. If it shows a negative number-change your game or find a cheaper hobby.

 

I also agree with the mental aspect. If you expect to lose-you will. Those are the players I want to stay away from because they usually wind up making silly mistakes and can turn a "fun-table" into a frustrating evening.

[jetwet1]

Please don't get me wrong, I was simply pointing out that playing by gut instinct is a sure way to lose.

 

The key to gambling is money management, set a win/loss limit, once you hit that leave, if it take an hour or if it takes 5 minutes, once you reach that limit, get up, cash out.

 

I really don't play on the ships anymore, I used to play seriously, but now I am married, have the bills associated with being married and honestly, I don't enjoy it anymore, while I am happy to throw the odd $20 at a video poker machine sitting down at a blackjack table does nothing for me, I can sit there all night counting down the deck and it is more like work than fun.

 

The craps table still has a little hold on me, but now I will just do a quick $27 across and see what happens, I have far more fun sitting back with a JD and diet in hand and watching friends play....Oh and dragging the wife away when she is up $500 and is sure that given enough time she will in fact own the cruiseline :rolleyes:

 

 

I also agree with the mental aspect. If you expect to lose-you will.

 

The don't on a craps table is a perfect place for people who lose.

[stan wood]

Remember that there are a number of different "cheat sheets" depending on the number of decks, when you can double, soft 17's, etc.

[Harry and Lucille]

I was talking about splitting eights, not tens. Harry