Goodtime Cruizin

a few think so.

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21 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Surely Mariners start of June is not leading you to that conclusion.  It’s simply the end of one season that she is doing Anne what would be the normal start of another season.  The end of April is very typical of ships to redeploy elsewhere from the Caribbean. 

June of 2022.... I recognize when Caribbean cruise ships shift from summer to winter & vice versa. But June of 2022 is along damn ways off. To be exact, that's 15 months. The next shifting of ships would typically be in about 4-5 weeks. Then a reverse around Oct or so... why are they not planning to move the Navigator to Cali then? No one of can read the tea leaves of the CDC, but it's pretty telling that they are waiting 15 months to serve the masses and make profits. 

June 2022 is very telling of the expected timeline they think they might be cruising again out of the US

7 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Just announced on the webinar that the Navigator is confirmed in California.

 

out of LA

 

3/4/5 and 7 night cruises

 

On sale at the end of the month

 

 

50 minutes ago, Bobal said:

 

 

But it's not a new thing to have Barbados as a home port, a number of cruiselines already do, and not just small ships. We were due to sail from there last March on MSC Preziosa which I believe is around the same size as Voyager class. P&O also start voyages from there. Barbados is already well set up as a home port.

But it is new to Royal to have ship home port in Barbados. Am I correct or not? 

9 hours ago, SNJCruisers said:

 First of all, you eliminate everybody that drives to their embarkation port.  You then eliminate the frugal cruiser that likes to fly on the cheap.  You then eliminate those cruisers that do not have a passport.

It would only be a stop gap measure to generate some revenue for the short term with smaller ships if the CDC keeps dragging their feet. And because of the first 3 reasons I mentioned, it would be a limited audience, so because of this I don't see it happening.

Which basically means you couldn't fill the Oasis, but you could the Grandeur. So...yes there is a market for the smaller classed ships. But as you say, it would only be a stop gap measure. It would not fill the pinned up demand from the non-pssport passengers, the frugal passengers, and those that would drive to a cruise port. But if someone wants to go on a Caribbean cruise w/ RCL, the Grandeur is waiting for you! 

1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said:

They are not stopping / visiting Barbados.  They are homeporting the Grandeur there from December through April

Yes... I know. In fact that's what I posted. Hence the delay to facilitate the supply chain.

1 minute ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I guess we will agree to disagree.  It doesn’t take almost a year to get things ready to homeport a ship in Barbados where the infrastructure exists and the country already has a number of ships home ported there.  Perhaps in the case of Cozumel where they need to build a pier.  I stand by my original statement that homeporting a ship in Barbados was not a way around the CDC

OK.

But stopping/visiting a port vs 'home' porting require different types of logistics and preperations for the ships, the passengers, the port personnel, and of course the supply chain.  It'll be interesting to watch, but I do not see the CDC allowing cruies to start from the US by Dec. It's my belief that they are waiting for the so called 'herd immunity' to be in full force. As of today, it's anticpated that just less than 30% of US citizens fit that criteria of having Covid anti-bodies in their system, either by the disease itself or injection of the vaccine. I may be surprised and see that we reach a plateau sooner where the CDC identifies a % and says to the cruise industry, 'You're good to go'. But IMO, there is a long way to go before we get to the  point of cruising out of US ports. 

10 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Grandeur was not moved to Barbados to skirt the CDC rules.  If that had been the case she would be there a lot sooner than Dec 5.  She was put there because Royal believes it will be a more profitable route than other opportunities.  The same will hold true for tomorrow’s announcement. 

It could take that long to prepare for the logisitics, the port, etc. But placing a small ship, at a small port is a perfect plan. And let's be honest here, it's hard to make profits when your balance sheet shows zero $$ income.  

The suggestion of Mexico was striclty on needed revenues.

If it's Cali, it'll be pretty long while yet. They're stuggling in many areas w/ regards to Covid. But they do have a pinned up demand there. 

If it's Mexico, it'd only be for a quicker return to the Caribbean and not a long term home port.

Mexico is a pretty good bet as well. 

2 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Guess we will have to wait.  Small announcement about a new home port coming though. 

Mexico?

The news is so simple but so exciting.

The Naughty Room expands to include paraphernalia such as face coverings & masks. 

1 hour ago, firefly333 said:

What does BND stand for. This is all very enlightening. I even thought it was a woman posting ... wow foreign intrigue adventures.  

BoND, James Bond. Germany my ass. 

9 minutes ago, Sky616 said:

Do you think the lying, cheating media would really even tell you if she did die of the vaccine?

I think the real question is...

If the media did tell you the truth, would you believe it? 

If your answer is yes... then it doesn't matter. 

If your answer is no.... then it doesn't matter. 

1 hour ago, Sky616 said:

39 year old healthy woman from Utah died last week.

That's a shame.

Having said that you just never know.... 2 people were killed in a traffic accident yesterday in my hometown and five people were shot last night in Chicago. 

2 hours ago, Mikew0805 said:

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure I lose brain cells when I read your posts.  No offense.

I can't imgine him as a family member or a neighbor. It would be exhausting. 

42 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Yes, but vacationing in Mexico is nothing new for Americans. I don't know that flying to Mexico to cruise would be a welcome change for many. I do understand that my perspective may be a bit spoiled. Non-stop flight to FLL and non-stop flight home, 2.5 hours each way. I'm sure that people with much longer, or more complicated, flights might have different opinions just as folks living in Florida probably view having to take any flight as a hassle to cruise.

 

I would not be excited about flying to Mexico to do a Caribbean cruise.

This is true. People do vacation in Mexico. But there was alot of people that flocked to Mexico that otherwise wouldn't. The samne w/ NY'ers flocking to Florida. And people fly into San Juan for everyone of those cruises. So ... yes, it could indeed happen. RCL would have to select the right port. And BTW, I'm not saying as a permanent solution at all. But for start up, to get a ship moving in the Caribbean, it could happen. 

1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

To me, as mentioned, is the embarkation process and restocking the ship between cruises. That’s a mass operation to pull off. 

Oasis class maybe not... some it could happen with a smaller class ship. 

42 minutes ago, d9704011 said:

Fiddlesticks!  Cruise lines with ships having a capacity of 2,000 to 5,000 passengers need to fill ‘em up and not circle lazily around the Caribbean (or anywhere else) for an extended period of time to remain in business.  If Americans can’t get the cruise experience they expect for their money without having to fly all over the place they’ll go elsewhere; there are a gazillion options other than cruising.

***Shakes head***

People fly into Florida to get on a cruise ship. Many have flown to Mexico this past year to avoid the US lockdowns. I think you are severely under estimating the power of the American cruiser's $$$$ and their willingness to go cruising. 

20 minutes ago, d9704011 said:

Then all that will be required is airlines scheduling flights from all over the United States for people, many of whom don’t have passports, to travel to small airports without the infrastructure to manage the hordes of supposedly vaccinated people who just cannot wait to cruise.   Hahahahaha.... and I’m barely scratching the surface of why this won’t happen.

Look all I'm saying is that it is very doable. Will they have the same volume has every port in florida... hell no. But they just moved cruises from one spot to another (see Israel) because they got the go ahread. And SWA flys all over the Caribbean. Aruba, St.Marten, and many other spots have airports that can handle large commercial jets. RCL is waitng on a greenlight. Whenever they get it, they'll go and book cruises... hell they're booking them now and not even going yet! 

I'll go if the wife gets vaxed. She doesn't want it. I have pfizer #2 on this Wednesday. I did not get the vax for cruising but for personal health reasons.  We have a cruise for Aug 19, 2022. so things can and probably will drastically change by then. 

9 minutes ago, RFerrington said:

Jewel is doing a 12 night British Isles cruise August 19, 2022 but it does not originate in the UK.  It sails (RT) out of Amsterdam.  Really looking forward to this one.  I sure hope it sails.

Sure hope it sails too. That's along ways away yet so there is plenty of time to see how things shaske out. 

Actually 3' on the pool deck is perfect. They stack those damn loungers so close that you can't even walk between them to sit down. 

24 minutes ago, d9704011 said:

Ha!!  Not likely.

I have a feeling that as soon as they can find a government located in the caribbean (outside of the US) that would allow them to set sail in the caribbean...and if the US is still at the 'no' stage.. it'll be offered. Watch.