ScottsSweetie

45 minutes ago, Bgwest said:

Surely you recognize that you’re being manipulated by “the sky is falling” alarmist media with today’s “crisis du jour”. 
 

You do recognize that, don’t you?

Hence my sarcastic post.

14 hours ago, sc4125 said:

Thank you for giving people a heads up.  Even though I've made my appointment for a rapid test as CVS an hour and a half away for next Wednesday for our Mardi Gras cruise on the 28th, I just ordered the Abbot BinaxNOW.  I did this because this is the first I've heard about appointments being cancelled by CVS. 

 

I appreciate people on this board giving us this information.  I may have "wasted" the $150 plus shipping, but I would be devastated if my appointment is cancelled as I can't see any other CVS or Walgreens having appointments available.  I have a cruise scheduled for November, so if I get the CVS test as planned next week, I can use the BinaxNOW in November.

Can I ask you if those would be returnable if you don't use them, or what the return policy is on that?

Good Lord - they just did 45 seconds on the local news here on the bacon shortage on Carnival Cruise Lines.

In Phoenix. In the desert. Where there is no port. Why is this newsworthy for the nightly news?? 🤷‍♂️

Carnival has been transparent in telling you that they are not going to tell you. Perhaps cruisers would LIKE to know - but Carnival has no legal (or moral, in my opinion) obligation to tell us. If these terms are not acceptable to anyone than they should not be booking cruises at this time.

I'm going in with my eyes wide open. 

Orange is just the second level - yellow is the third level.

For just about the entire time this chart has been up, the ships with crew only have been orange and the ships with passengers have been yellow. It did not affect the start up of the ships.

Panorama is orange and they will sail tomorrow for the first time - and will probably turn to yellow soon as they have covid positive cases arise on the ship.

5 minutes ago, bdever said:

I would jump on it then. I have no such offer that comes up for me in a mock booking.

If only I wasn't already sailing on 9/4 - and at a much higher rate than I could purchase now (well, room rate - not including the great Cheers offer we got).

1 hour ago, bdever said:

Sigh… okay for giggles let’s see about Havana Cabanas for 9/18/21 that I booked last year - nope, as usual the price I booked at is lower. I paid $2782.74 and today cabanas are $3229.74.

Our VIFP offer for that date and room is $2331.48.

Many posters here have reported receiving either full refunds, FCCs, or were able to reschedule their cruises without penalty.

When I look it shows bookings for the Sensation start in December.

DH's VIFP offers has shockingly low prices for the Panorama 7 day out of Long Beach for the entire month of September + the August 28 sailing.

The cheapest week is 9/4 with interior rooms going for a total of 641.48 (all in) or balconies for 1073.48 (all in).

7 minutes ago, CthyC said:

Today John Heald said there will be 3200 passengers on Panorama’s restart cruise…does anyone know what capacity is?

A quick google search shows me 4008 total guest capacity.

10 minutes ago, Aplmac said:

Order the Indian Veggie thing!

 

What is that, exactly? I could be persuaded to order it.

14 hours ago, Moviela said:

Some special diets are prepared in advance off the ship for those who keep Kosher for example. Food is prepared under Rabbinical supervision in a Kosher kitchen. It is sealed and loaded on the ship. The kitchen staff heats the food in specially cleaned areas, waiters bring it to your table. 

 

As with banquet kitchens everywhere with right thinking management, they are happy to address special dietary needs. 

That is so interesting - thanks for that info!

1 minute ago, AlabamaPoolBoy said:

They have a moral obligation to report the number of covid cases to their customers who are at risk.

 

Providing the  number of covid cases on the previous cruise definitely is not the "entire picture".  But knowing that data point certainly provides a lot more of the picture than not knowing it.  I would get on a boat that had 20 covid cases on the previous cruise.  I would NOT get on one which just had 400 cases on the previous cruise.  Would you?  Are you happy with cruise lines withholding that info from their customers?

I am realistic in believing they are not going to do it. I have as much say so in what they announce or not as you do, as I don't believe either of us are in management.

If you are not happy with the current company policies that Carnival is operating under, then by all means vote with your dollars and do not book a cruise until they change to a policy more to your liking. As you can see below, I am cruising in 3 weeks. I realize that the only way I will (probably) know about any positive cases will be here on CC. If they had 400 cases on a cruise I can assure you that the CDC would shut that ship down and no one would have to make that choice.

39 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Make vaccines mandatory. End the ignorance and the pandemic.

You should be careful what you ask for, because you might not agree with the next mandate.

42 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

We agree to disagree.

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Just now, sanger727 said:

 

As long as they haven't decided on vaccination exemptions for cruises past the cutoff, it is taken care of. They can continue as they have been doing except granting zero exemptions for adults. Even easy because they can reject those outright instead of waiting to see if there is room at the last minute. 

I've seen reports that exemptions are already being received for October sailings. Perhaps the first round of those only goes to the under 12 set, though, and they don't do adult exemptions until closer to sail date.

2 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

It take time to implement policy.

I disagree.  It takes 5 seconds to make a phone call and say, "close the port". I believe this was issued as an emergency. A three week implementation does not fit the definition of emergency.

It would be like me telling my child that it's important for you to wear a mask to school, but we'll start in 3 weeks.

Would it upset a crap ton of people? Absolutely. The cruise lines would return, though, as they all have private islands (read $$$$$) there.

2 hours ago, firefly333 said:

I think I count 3 carnival cancellations and 3 with rcl. Just happens vista up next. I've quit booking, especially since the covid pretest. I've got enough booked dont want more covid tests.

 

Idk how many now on my roll call but perhaps over 600 signed up. Some cancelled but didnt drop the roll cal, just because it's so active. Some people are like me, is this for real? For sure are we sailing after so many cancellations. Let's get restarted. I want a couple under my belt before I start counting my unhatched chickens. 

That's great. My roll call is dreadfully silent.

3 hours ago, skridge said:

I am glad the Bahamas is going to protect themselves from the unvaccinated.  I wish more places all over the world would do the same.

Yep.

3 hours ago, rolloman said:

I think it is important to note this does not go into effect until Friday September 3. Therefore anyone cruising to a Bahama port of call prior would still fall under the old guidelines.

3 hours ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

I was not surprised to see a time-phase for implementation - it allows travelers and cruise lines to adjust.  Most of the border closures and other restrictions put in place by various nations have had anywhere from a week to a month's notice.

 

I do wonder if that means even more cancellations for my 4 Sept cruise to Bahamas...will make for an even emptier ship, which will not make me sad.  It is unfortunate for those unvaxxed adults that will be cancelled, but on the other hand...

I'm sorry - this drives me crazy. The Bahamas are making this decision for the SAFETY of their citizens - but hey, for convenience sake, let's not make it effective for 3 more weeks. If it's an EMERGENCY to SAVE LIVES, then it should be effective today. If they really only were doing it for the safety of their citizens, it would begin TODAY and they wouldn't be worried about how it inconvenienced anyone. 

1 hour ago, AlabamaPoolBoy said:

Looks like that post indicates his wife and 4 others had confirmed covid for a total of 5.  Regardless, I believe it is Carnivals responsibility to inform cruisers how many confirmed covid cases were found during all cruises.  Somehow, that info got reported on the Vista cruise.  It should be public info on all Carnival cruises.  People should have the data to evaluate their own personal covid risk before getting on a cruise ship.  Knowing the number of positive cases is a key bit of data we all need.

It's Carnival's responsibility to report the info to the CDC and any other regulatory agency that requires it. Otherwise, they have no obligation to give info. Numbers of positive on the ship doesn't give the entire picture - 5 cases out of 2000 or 5 cases out of 4000 is an entirely different percentage. You can think it should be public info - but unless and until Carnival thinks that then I guess you're out of luck. If one is that concerned about this then it's probably not time for one to cruise with all the unknowns.

1 minute ago, Moviela said:

I would think the changes in itinerary for some voyages might be due to port congestion, availability of tender boats at Cabo, or delivery of provisions to the ship. In any event it is all good. There is always a possibility of changes due to marine or weather conditions. The sea is bigger than we are and will dictate our passage at any given moment.  

I'm not sure if there are any other cruise ships in the Mexican Riviera right now. Perhaps someone else will chime in about that.

31 minutes ago, AlabamaPoolBoy said:

Interesting.  Could you kindly post a source/link for the 14 other cruisers having covid on that cruise?  I wondered if there were more.  I did my normal due diligence google investigation and could not find ANY source for more covid case than the one I referenced.  Deck three gangway is also the crew gangway and is used for other things than normal passengers.  Maybe the 14 you mentioned were crew, medical staff, other passengers who may have been exposed but had not shown a positive test result?  I don't know but would be very interested in knowing.

 

You posted that "it had been reported", where was it reported?  Please, if you have a confirmed source for 14 additional covid cases on our cruise, a link to that info would be greatly appreciated.  Happy Sails!

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2795718-positive-covid-test-on-ship/page/3/

My post is #71 - comment after mine reports the 14 people

25 minutes ago, AlabamaPoolBoy said:

Interesting.  Could you kindly post a source/link for the 14 other cruisers having covid on that cruise?  I wondered if there were more.  I did my normal due diligence google investigation and could not find ANY source for more covid case than the one I referenced.  Deck three gangway is also the crew gangway and is used for other things than normal passengers.  Maybe the 14 you mentioned were crew, medical staff, other passengers who may have been exposed but had not shown a positive test result?  I don't know but would be very interested in knowing.

 

You posted that "it had been reported", where was it reported?  Please, if you have a confirmed source for 14 additional covid cases on our cruise, a link to that info would be greatly appreciated.  Happy Sails!

The first thing to know is that it was reported as 14 additional people at disembark - not 14 additional cases. Let me find the post here and I'll get back to you (search function still not working).