First and Ten

The carnival web site is giving me FITS!! so i decided to come to the place with the real answers.. THANKS CC

My check in time is 11:00. I thought i read somewhere that you can't even enter the port until your time? Is that correct? So do i pull into garage, drop off luggage with porter, then sit in car until 11:00? What does the logistics of this process look like?

THANK!

You are allowed to show up after your checkin time. So instead of sitting in your car, just show up to the port later than your checkin time so you don't have to wait in your car

I agree that people should follow the ship rules. I often get slammed for my position on following the rules on this site. My now 19 yr old (then 18) inadvertently (yes truly - he is clueless with his nose chasing Pokémon etc) wandered onto serenity. He described over dinner how he had found this great relaxing place with clam shells. I told him he was an idiot, take his nose out of his phone, read the signs, and stay off that deck. He said "oops" and didn't go back. So please know not all parents want the rules bent for junior.

 

The problem with all of these rules, signs or code, is we have seen that Carnival doesn't enforce its rules consistently from adult only pools, MDR dress code or comedy club. This, even more than people who try to bend them, IMHO creates as much of the problem as anything else.

 

 

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Here is my issue.... So because Carnival doesn't have a SWAT team for the comedy club, serenity, MDR, etc you feel they aren't "enforcing" it? What about as an adult, you read that the comedy club is 18+, you obey the rule and if your kid is 17 yrs 11 mos, you DONT take him/her into the club. It seems you justify it with "well if I can get away with it, that's Carnivals fault, not mine". I disagree

They offer a whole lot more than just a few extra restaurants.

 

A couple basic reasons. Since we are obviously talking about Oasis class. It's the ONLY truly innovative and modern ship design. The neighborhood concepts, space usage, and venue designs make the ship feel far less crowded and giving you a lot more options for things to do. Others say "I don't want to use the ice rink" - but they say this because they haven't actually been on the ship. These same people enjoy exceptional shows... well the ice rink is mainly used as an entertainment venue for ice shows (and they are outstanding). By having several show venues, you reduce the rush to a single venue for a single show. Spreading out passengers better and creating a better experience.

 

Serenity doesn't compare in any way, shape, or form to the large Solarium - which has a full restaurant and buffet, pool, hot tubs, bar, etc. Nothing else like the Boardwalk and Central Park. More pools to spread the crowds out. More/better dining and bar venues. The casino feels more like a real casino and not a bunch of machines in the middle of the promenade - which creates a terrible and smokey promenade...

 

It's just truly innovative and better than anything else out there by a long shot.

That's a good answer!!!! BNBR and I aren't always the best of buddies [emoji14], but got to give him props for the answer. Actual reasons for the bigger and newer ships as opposed to mindlessly saying "uhhhh, I only sail the newer/bigger ships" and when asked why, the response is "uhhhhhhh, because they are newer and bigger" [emoji849]

They offer a whole lot more than just a few extra restaurants.

Cool....what? That's why I was asking. I mean if you tell me there are 3 pools instead of 2 that's not a big deal because there are 6000 people instead of 4000. I know on the Oasis, there is an ice skating show, is that the main draw?

Billy, question if I can. I am not looking to twist you, I am being serious. What is the draw based on size? Now I get a bigger ship will typically have more dining options. I understand if someone says they like different specialty dining. Ok, then a bigger ship that has more options makes sense. I don't get this line, which I hear a lot on here...."I only sail on the bigger and newer ships"....My question is "Why"? Like I said, I get if they responded with "The bigger ships only have these 2 so-and-so restaurants. That makes sense....I just don't get the "bigger" reasoning. Interested if you like "bigger", why?

So, if kids are mature enough, it's ok for them to be in adult events?Would you be ok if a few 25 year old guys decide to spend time with the teens in the teens club? Maybe they feel like being teens again. If they are immature enough, why not? No law that says they shouldn't, just ship policy... If being with family is THE point of your vacation, then find a ship or resort that has age appropriate activities for the whole family.

 

 

 

 

 

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Gotta, it really is that simple....BUT, (you knew the BUT was coming and this is just my observation) why it is not that simple is peoples own selfishness. Mom or Dad want to see the 18+ comedy show, they somehow feel guilty of leaving the son/daughter on their own so they justify it in their own mind that "my son/daughter is mature, they belong here. The 18+ sign is for other kids, not mine" The kid really doesnt care about the comedy show, its the parent that doesnt want to miss out. Same for the Serenity Deck. The 17 yr old wants to get some sun. There are dozens of open chairs open, why would the parent take the child into an over 21 area? Selfishness. Serenity is typically quieter and on some ships have nicer chairs. Its the adult being selfish abd they justify it with "well my daughter is mature, its ok for her to be here. That 21+ sign are meant for the other kids, not my daughter"

You're not hard to figure out, Ten. You enjoy trying to deflect and redirect the negativity you create. No one's twisting your words, you do a good enough job of that yourself. Since you're going to ask me to prove it, here's an example. In one post, you said the curfew age should be under 18. That's a definitive statement. When A&Jfamily questioned you about your age limit, you backpedaled and said things like, "...there should be some type of age limit curfew and used 18 as the general rule for adulthood. I used 18 as an example..." No, you didn't say, "some type of age limit." You didn't say, "18 is a general rule." And you didn't say, "18 is an example." You specifically stated that 18 should be the rule, and instead of owning it, you twisted your own words. Want another example? You said you don't generalize that all kids are like the kids in this video, yet you want to set a curfew for all minors. So, in fact, you are generalizing all underage kids to be so irresponsible that they shouldn't be allowed out of their cabins after 10pm without a chaperone.

 

 

 

No one's stalking your posts, you just don't like it when people here refuse to tolerate your rude behavior. But you say that about me because you want others to believe it in an attempt to redirect the negativity you create. This isn't the first time you've tried to make someone else look like the bad guy and it won't be the last. I have disagreements with people all of the time and we still manage to have perfectly civil discussions and debates about a wide variety of topics. It's only the special ones who deserve a little more of an aggressive approach. :D I welcome anyone to go through my posts and try to find an instance where I attacked someone unprovoked for no good reason or a post where I insulted someone out of the blue. You won't find anything like that. Just times when I've stood up to unnecessarily rude behavior. The same cannot be said for you. ;) Now, would you like to discuss the topic at hand or would you rather continue with the smoke & mirrors baloney?

OC, you have to calm down....don't let me agitate you so much....deep breaths....you good? [emoji38]

Yes, I did say I would like a curfew on ships and used 18 as the age. You can disagree, but because my opinion should differ from yours, that doesn't mean I am insulting or attacking you or anyone else. Now, I am not into the happy-happy joy-joy behavior like you apparently are. If you find me rude, ya know what, that's a you problem, not a me problem. As far as the topic of if there should be a curfew for those under 18....YES, there should. I gave my reasons in previous posts that you have gone over already because that is what you do.

We are cruising in two weeks and my daughter will be only 2 weeks shy of turning 18. She's very mature and it really stinks that she is the only one in our group that is under age 18. I would love for her to be able to hang out in the disco with the rest of the family. I too wonder if they ever allow someone so close to turning 18 into the disco or if there is absolutely no chance in that happening.

Just a thought....is she "mature" physically/emotionally/or both?....If it's on the physical side, you got a shot....tease out her hair, heavy makeup, short skirt and at least 3 inch pumps....Hope like heck a younger straight guy is working the door (I guess a woman who prefers other woman works too, but I still think younger straight guy is your best bet....98% of them are as shallow as a puddle [emoji16]) 50% shot she doesn't get carded....If she does, have her go with puppy dog eyes while saying in the sweet voice "Oh darn, I left my ID upstairs, do I really have to go all the way back"? Here's the key, pause for effect, then invoke the "cute pouty face"....SHES IN!!!!

Enjoy your cruise!!!! [emoji38]

Well some do. I think there can be a difference. Either way I don't care what anyone wants to label it. In my book it is common sense and good parenting to watch your children on a cruise. I don't know one valid reason not to. A cruise isn't the only opportunity to teach children independence or responsibility. It can be done in endless more controlled, safer environments. Sounds like an excuse by some to not be bothered with their children on family vacation.

I was just asking if that is the term people use....someone's a bit fired up [emoji3]

FL Steve ...so u are suggesting that kids are relatively safe on land from sexual assault, kidnapping, or murder as long as not in bad neighborhoods? If u want to teach your child responsibility and safety you don't need to do that by turning them loose in small area of thousands of people, to which many are intoxicated.

You didn't ask, but I'm 40. I don't buy my kids are safer now. I grew up Kc and felt safer there in 80s verses now in significantly smaller, more rural area. I would have to see many legitimate stats before I would even entertain that thoery.

I'll say it again, no problem taking the overprotective label and will wear it proudly.

Dont they call overprotective a "helicopter parent" nowadays?

Before you go twist my words Chaos (you seem to enjoy that), I did say the under 18 crowd can stay out as late as they want....AS LONG AS THEY ARE WITH THEIR PARENTS OR IN A CARNIVAL CAMP....continue on with your stalking of my posts [emoji16]

But you want to put a curfew which is more restrictive than even exists on land on all kids - regardless of whether they are good kids are bad. And that isn't right. It's a philosophy of punish the whole for the transgressions of the few and that's not right. It's like saying let's ban alcohol because a small percentage of adults can't control themselves.

 

The appropriate response is to direct concerns to the appropriate cruise line and request enforcement of rules and consequences for offenders. I certainly want these kids punished because they create problems for the good ones.

 

I don't foresee Carnival in particular ever doing what you propose because as I know you see from reading on these boards, people are constantly trying to bend the rules for themselves and it is becoming less and less restrictive. Carnival doesn't enforce the rules they have but yet you propose more? The last thing they are going to do is drive away families by reducing the offerings for kids and making it more difficult on families to travel together.

 

Good luck getting that curfew! And please feel free to compliment my son when he holds the elevator door for you as he is returning to his room across the hall from ours at 11 pm.

 

 

 

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I said what my preference was. I will agree with you that i dont think Carnival will impose a curfew, but one can hope. You seem to like taking things to an extreme. I didnt say "No kids allowed out at night". What i said was if you werent with your parent/guardian and not in a "camp" of some sort, no children under 18 are allowed unsupervised past a designated time (10, 11,12, etc). All kids arent "bad", but you cant have a curfew and have it dependent on when you check in, asking the parents "Are your kids good kids or bad"? :')...i dont think that would work out to well. If your little snowflake held the elevator door for me, i would say to him what i would say to anyone else...."Thank you very much"....I may even say "Hey kid, wanna make $20....go up to the Lido deck, climb on the railing and jump into the pool" ;)

The kids sneaked out without their parents knowledge. Do you think they would have obeyed a curfew after doing what they did?

BTW, the video has been taken down by the poster.

Nothing is 100%. With a curfew, if a Carnival worker saw the 2 little beasts walking around unsupervised, they could be stopped and told to go back to their rooms immediately

I 100% agree with this idea!! :) I will admit the rest of the week I was hesitant to even get in the FFTF/Priority Line for fear of being verbally attacked. We have always had FFTF every cruise since it has started being offered and although I have heard the occasional loud "sigh" when we are in the line and get serviced first, this was the first and only time I have been verbally attacked. I already have FFTF booked for my next two cruises and we will be Platinum after that, but would love it there was a line we could go to and not have to worry about backlash.

Thats not right....In your own words, the disgruntled person addressed (in a loud voice) the Carnival Rep. He didnt "attack" you....by asking/yelling why does she get to go to the front is not an "attack" on you. By your own words in your previous post, you seemed to be sticking the knife in a bit deeper with your "big smile" and engaging the person. Why would you do that?

Why, you can't have lunch at 1 or 2?

Exactly coevan!!!! Contrary to what some people may think, the buffet isnt running out of food the first day. You can get the same food at 1 or 2 as you can at 11....i believe eating at 1 or 2 is still considered "lunch" :D

That is wonderful that your dad was "complimented," and I'm sure it perked him up, which it does me. :)

 

I KNOW I'm going to be blasted by a lot of people on here, of what I'm going to say. As I stated earlier, I am 74, but most people think I look about 5 - 10 years younger, and normally I FEEL that way too. :) Maybe the reason I like to dress up, I just retired from a very large corporate office (Frito-lay, Borden, Star Bucks, etc.) as their receptionist, and being at the front desk, I was used to dressing nice. To me, now remember, this is just ME talking, I feel a lot of people are lazy, and don't want to dress up!!! Yes, cruising is for R & R, and I don't dress up when I'm doing my R & R, but when I got to a nice dinner, I like too. :)

I agree with your assessment that the people that dont dress appropriately are lazy in that aspect

I don't believe that it is fair to limit the activities of ALL the 12+ kids simply on the misbehavior of a small percentage. Some of the Club O2 events and Circle C events are late night - well past 10. Your rule would make me stay up until 1 am just so my 13 year old son could be walked back to his room by me or else deny an otherwise well behaved kid the opportunity to do the late night activity. That's unreasonable.

 

Your curfew also assumes that all problems are from kids - which we all know isn't true. There are plenty of 18+ and ups that do highly risky and dangerous things.

 

And lastly, the logic of the curfew is flawed. This event could have easily taken place at 7 am or at 8 pm at night. A curfew wouldn't help those acts and is simply a random, illogical, knee-jerk section.

 

As I said before, these kids need to be banned. The fair and just remedy is punishing those that misbehave, not in curtailing all kids. Adults should have zero hesitation in reporting ANY wrong behavior - whether from kids or adults. Ultimately the issue is with the cruise line to provide appropriate security and punish those who misbehave.

 

 

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- No, i am not denying them anything. They can attend and you as the parent would be inconvenienced....Yes, thats right, your child, your responsibility to get them....Stay up to 1 am if you want them there. Not my issue you want to go to sleep, that would be a you problem....suck it up or keep them in the room with you to go nighty-night

- Absolutely Not....i never assumed ALL problems are from kids (there you go exaggerating again, i never said that)....Some problems are from SOME kids and they get into trouble due to lack of supervision. A curfew helps, i never said it would eliminate

What if you are a 17 year old college student? You do realize that many of the Club O2 actives send the kids out and about for things - or they meet for a late show or movie? And do we even know that this stupid stunt from these kids happened after 10 pm?

 

Are you actually in favor of making a rule that anyone under 18 must be in camp or with their parents at all times? Good grief - we don't even have rules that strict on land for kids that are driving cars! And just look at the classic "preacher's daugther" when she is kept under lock and key and then sent to college....hold on to your hat! That is NOT a great way to parent. Kids do need to be given small doses of independence so that when they turn 18 and are "on their own" - which by the way my 19 year old is far from that as he is in college full time - they have matured into such independence and responsibility.

 

I am 100% in agreement that these kids - THESE KIDS - need to be banned from the ship. Without knowing more about the parents and what their knowledge and parenting was, I am not willing to impose a 100% ban based upon pure speculation.

 

But I also wish people would stop throwing all kids into such a category. Mine are now 19 and 13 and have the run of the ship. They are very well mannered (as I see them from a distance) and I would lock them in their room for pushing elevator buttons or some other irresponsible prank. Yes - they have a room across the hall. Probably 50% of the time my 13 year old has already put himself to be and is watching TV by 10 pm when we turn in; he is tired and ready for bed.

Why exaggerate? where did i post that ALL kids are like these 2 chuckleheads....i didnt. I agreed with Greg that there should be some type of age limit curfew and used 18 as the general rule for adulthood. I used 18 as an example and you used the outlier of the 17 yr old college student. So if i said 16, would you give me the answer of "well some 15 yr olds are more mature than a 16 yr old, why arent you allowing them"? We could spin in circles. I never said ALL kids are like these 2, so dont assume i said that. I am in favor of some sort of curfew that after a certain time, if they are not with their parents/guardians and not in some sort of supervised Carnival Camp, they need to be in their room, not roaming the ship unsupervised

Hey guys I’m sailing January ‘18 on the Sunshine for a 13 day last time it didn’t to matter me and this time and I’m looking to be checking in for or before noon — which I would like input on.

 

 

 

 

 

1) is it necessary to get there for checkin as early as possible —Why

 

 

 

2) what does it mean “first access to the rooms” do they lock them so I can’t go in before it’s ready?

 

 

 

3) Hows the food quality at the steakhouse? What is usually on the menu there??

Where are you cruising from? Some ports have staggered checkin. If you don't pick a checkin time before noon at a staggered checkin port, you won't be able to enter. If getting on the ship early is important, spring for FTTF. With FTTF, you can check in when the terminal opens.

If you aren't a Diamond or Platinum class and don't have FTTF, you won't be able to go to your room until approx 1:30....If getting to your room as soon as you board is important, again, consider purchasing FTTF

I personally find the Steakhouse worth the $35 upcharge....The steak is a "good" steak. Is it as good as a fine Steakhouse, no. That doesn't mean it's bad, it's a good steak. They have the typical ribeyes, filets, strips, etc. If you are used to an Outback or Longhorns, you will love the steak. If you like Lugers or Berns, a Carnival Steakhouse is not on that level

On my cruise last week so many people in line who dressed correctly kept pointing and snarking on people who may have been better dressed if they wore one of those carnival robe instead of sweaty clothes they sat by the pool in all day.

I try to understand the mindset, but it escapes me....What possesses a person with even a shred of common sense to find out it's 10 mins before their MDR seating to roll off their lounge chair, smelling of chlorine, sweat and suntan lotion and say to themselves "Who needs a shower, I can go to dinner in the MDR like this" 🤤

Not something to stress over....11, 12, 1, 2, everyone will get on the ship. Check back every month and pick whatever's available

Nobody is asking anyone to dress like a queen going to the ball! Just don't come looking like you slept on a park bench. A nice pair of slacks and a dress you would wear if going to a restaurant at home that doesn't allow casual wear.

 

 

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Agree diva, it really is that simple....but alas, the contrarians will proclaim "It is MY vacation and if I want to show up any night, especially elegant evening, looking like I slept on a park bench, then I should be able to do it. It's about me and what I want" (hands clenched in a fist and stamp feet for effect) [emoji849]

This is the kind of stuff that goes on when urchins get their own room across the hallway so the parents can have their privacy...everyone else has to deal with them. I think parents would be surprised how many them are out and about after midnight. I'm for a curfew.

Totally agree Greg....If you are under 18 and not with your parents and not being babysat in a Carnival Club, you need to be in your room after 10 pm

No. It requires more luggage. I would prefer hanging out in comfortable clothes. I wish they had different dining rooms with different dress codes, more like NCL, so that those that want to be super casual can be without going to the buffet.

 

 

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Carnival does have a different dining room for those who want to lounge in their day wear....Its up on the Lido deck and has a wonderful view of the ocean :D

No argument with your statement. My parents taught my brothers and myself all of the above but we still managed to do some stupid things. Not as stupid as this though.

 

I believe things started to change when society changed to the " don't do that Johnny " without giving repercussions. Now it seems that if they misbehave in school or else ware all the discipline is gone. I hope I worded this write.

Lets face it, years ago, if a child was disciplined (I am not talking hit, I am speaking of being verbally disciplined by the teacher. Now smacking across the knuckles with a ruler was not out unheard of in some schools) by a teacher and got sent home with a note, The childs parents would discipline the child even harder....Today, if the little snowflake goes home and tells mommy or daddy the teacher yelled at him, the parents have the schoolboard on the phone the next day screaming for the teacher to be fired and threatens to sue the school district. It has turned into a "not my child, he/she wouldn't do that. It has to be the fault of the school". Kids are smart, they know they can get away with stuff. If the cruiseline happened to see this vlog (all big companies have a department monitoring social media nowadays) the entire family should have been put off the ship at the next port. I guarantee you, if his parents took him on another cruise, he wouldn't even think of doing something like this again. Once the press got out that a family was booted off the ship for doing this, another little snowflake would think twice about doing this. Now some people will explain it away with "Oh, he is just being a kid" :rolleyes:....There is a HUGE difference in pressing all the elevator buttons or knocking on a cabin door in the middle of the night for a laugh and doing what this kid did