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You can get a private dining room with club Orange on Pinnacle class.

We've cruised on every class of Celebrity ship from Horizon to Edge. We started cruising with HAL in 1989 and cruised a dozen times with them over the last year. HAL has better itineraries, a crew that is just as friendly as on Celebrity and lower prices for drink packages than X. We like the new class of Pinnacle ships better than the Edge class. Celebrity has stunning design but the practicality of HAL's ships is more to our liking. The Crow's nest on HAL beats anything that Celebrity has as a go to place on board. Celebrity has given all the best views to suite passengers but HAL uses the forward observation lounge as a meeting place for coffee, puzzles and activities such as trivia. There are real dance floors on HAL whereas on Celebrity they are walk through locations. However we love the older Millennium class ships more than the older HAL ships. We have found that many Carnival cruisers have moved up to HAL just as Royal pax move on to Celebrity. Flip a coin to pick your voyage when in doubt. Both lines will give you a fantastic experience.

I think classical music is coming back but I don't know if it's in the main theatre or elsewhere.

This is a picture taken from a ship a little up river from Zuiderdam's docking. Your choice is taking a vernicular or a zig zag road which is more picturesque. I believe our docking location is right on the river not in the industrial port. We're sailing B2B

Thank you. I just got a bit worried .

Thank you. Seems to be for the end of 2024 and on..

Could you give me the site for the announcement? We are booked all the way to February 5th 2024 12, 12 , 6, 6 9,12, 12

How soon? 2023 or in 2024

As of this year???

Can you explain? We're on Connie Dec-Jan

We had the good fortune NOT to have the "art" guys occupy the space any where on the ship other than their display area. (12 weeks over the last year on HAL) On Celebrity they always took over the prime areas and they are the company that wags the tail for the whole ship. Criticizing them on board may get you in a pile of doo with front office.

baggal you said it all. nextariel you did not mention the ship We have cruised on Celebrity for 20 years but in the last year we have sailed HAL a dozen times. Both products are very similar but the "shows" on HAL are mediocre on a good day. We liked the food better on HAL. The crew are fantastic on both lines. If this is the ship, we loved it.

Are they referring to a clothing optional cruise that you will not bare for?

We cruised on N Statendam for 10 weeks and loved it.

We spent 10 weeks on N Statendam and loved it, except for the shows. However shows on Celebrity don't change often enough if one is a frequent cruiser. The food choices on NS were fantastic and the desserts are way better on HAL and I have the pounds to prove it.

(off topic of course) Ours quit after 50.000 mi. No rearview camera, no blue tooth, no radio, no GPS, no phone connection) Only $2,000 for replacement plus taxes, plus installation.

There were many suite pax happy that, with Zeniths gone, the lounge would be more exclusive and not so crowded. Zeniths were upset when sky suites were given access, because crowding would become an issue. Some suite pax are just the latest to suffer a cut. My point is that everyone should be upset by every cut because the next "victim" will be personal. The "appropriate entity" is untouchable.

Despite being on the outside looking in, we're still sailing faithfully. The quality of the food, service in MDR (Luminae and Blu are not in our budget) and the entertainment are more important. However I'm speculating whether the Retreat Team butlers will still give priority seating to Zs in the theatre among the buttercups. I hope a few thorns won't upset them much.

I tried to buy the wine package prior to our sailing date but HAL will charge the full price and then reimburse me when on board. We live in Canada and I don't like being charged exchange fees by the CC company and then more fees when the refund is applied. Life would be so much simpler if the purchase can reflect a 4* discount before charges to the CC.

Frankly my dear I just don't give .... In my opinion, nothing "they" do to any suite passenger will compare to the ostracism of Zeniths from Michael's Club and the Retreat that loyal passengers had enjoyed as a benefit for sailing repeatedly for decades. No one cares unless they personally feels the knife cut. It's a business determined to maximize the results for stockholders. Until the masses start abandoning ship, the people in charge are doing what they have been hired to do. Suck it up buttercups. 😂

Whenever the gratuities question arises, the implication is that they represent a large part of the wages of the employees. I'm just guessing here but I can't see a huge savings for Celebrity and Royal head office. I don't know how many butlers were onboard but is their cabin space being reassigned? Once upon a time there was one future sales person onboard. Cruse activities staff was reduced and more bed space opened up. I would like to know which department is being increased to take up the accommodation space vacated by the butlers.

There is a travel agency website on which you can book a cabin and choose from cabins still available. We are booked on Zuiderdam in September and I just looked up the sail date and found cabins we could still choose.

Our first cruise 1989 on the Rotterdam. On formal night the chief engineer joined us at our table and invited us to the engine room.. We climbed the ladders and saw these huge pistons.. a trip never to be repeated with insurance laws etc.